 Episode 215 - "The Tower", Spoilers |
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| Aussie_Bloke |
 Jul 30th 2005, 7:11 AM
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First Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 700 Joined: December 16th 2004 From: Melbourne,Vic,Aus,Earth,Solar System,Milky Way Member No.: 7,259 Gender: Male  |
Click for Spoiler -GateWorld Something tells me those dont sound like 'Nox-names"....ahhh well it was a dream...nothing more...... |
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| IndyJan |
Jul 31st 2005, 10:04 PM
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Lieutenant General  Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female |
Well, it sounds like it should be interesting. At least I hope so.
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| Stargate Master |
 Aug 2nd 2005, 4:07 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: June 3rd 2004 From: County Durham, England, UK Member No.: 5,193 Gender: Male |
New spoilers revealed by Gateworld for this episode:
Colonel Sheppard and his team visit an alien world with a tower apparently built by the Ancients, one that possess a control chair able to defend the planet from Wraith attack. In this way the people have survived for generations -- but only the line of the Lord Protector, the local ruler, has the Ancient gene that allows him to operate the chair. After Mara, daughter of the Lord Protector, visits Sheppard's room to try to seduce him, the Colonel confronts Otho, adviser to the ruler. Otho confesses that the Ancient gene is fading in the royal bloodline with each generation, so that the ability of the Lord Protector to use the chair is no longer a certainty. It is his job to study the royal family's lineage to determine the best mates for the Lord Protector's children. When the team arrived, Otho had used an Ancient scanner to examine Sheppard. He determined that Sheppard has the Ancient gene, stronger than anyone in their recorded history going back three hundred years. Meanwhile, the Lord Protector's son Tavius is not going to give up his birthright so easily. He is next in line to the throne, and Otho tells Sheppard that the possibility of his sister bearing genetically superior progeny is a threat he will eliminate the first chance he gets. Soon Tavius will be Lord Protector, as the current ruler is deteriorating more each day. Sheppard hopes they can help, and brings Dr. Beckett and Dr. Weir from Atlantis. Original Article here |
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| IndyJan |
Aug 2nd 2005, 4:18 PM
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Lieutenant General Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female |
LOL, so will Sheppard do his part to make sure that the gene is passed on?
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| Lagger |
Aug 2nd 2005, 10:00 PM
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Chief Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: June 25th 2005 Member No.: 9,349 Gender: Not Telling |
Lolz... i dont think so...
i recon that the whole protector thing falls apart, and all fo the "royal family" gets killed by a wraith attack, that sheppard defends the city... they steal the ZPM, and all the drones and run for it |
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| Aussie_Bloke |
Aug 3rd 2005, 5:30 AM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 700 Joined: December 16th 2004 From: Melbourne,Vic,Aus,Earth,Solar System,Milky Way Member No.: 7,259 Gender: Male |
Well if some hot princess chick crept into my room wanting to pro-create...i wouldnt say "sorry - your just using me for my genes".....id take a very different stance...
right lads.....RIGHT!  |
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| commander |
Aug 3rd 2005, 6:39 AM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: July 15th 2005 From: cottesloe western australia 6011 Member No.: 9,505 Gender: Male |
its a shame that were not going to see another city like atlantis but an outpost is still cool i guess
it would have been nice to see a detailed ancient structure, there arcutecture is unique to say the least especially atlantis what do u think sheppard will do to resolve the situation, atlantis needs those drones, maybe he could trade for them some of these people are decendants of the ancients (but the ATA gene is diluted)just like some members of the atlantis expedition team so they are potentially valuble allies!! |
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| Lagger |
Aug 3rd 2005, 6:17 PM
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Chief Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: June 25th 2005 Member No.: 9,349 Gender: Not Telling |
or not... the king is dying, and according to that spoiler, the next in line, doesnt want anything to do with us... so yeah
it would be preemptive to sleep with her. remember what happened to the genni, you help them, and they turn around and try to kill you. giving them someone with the gene, is exaclty the same, wats to say, that int eh future, now they got the gene back, they wont become an enemy. This post has been edited by Lagger: Aug 3rd 2005, 6:18 PM |
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| commander |
Aug 4th 2005, 4:03 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: July 15th 2005 From: cottesloe western australia 6011 Member No.: 9,505 Gender: Male |
yea good point, they could turn out like the gennii but they would have ancient weapons/technology and a ZPM!
but atleast some people are decendants of the ancients so hopefully there not going to be too bad and we know that they do know how to use some ancient technology so maybe they could give the atlantis team a hand. i can see some major benefits an alliance with these people might offer This post has been edited by commander: Aug 4th 2005, 4:05 AM |
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| Felger |
Aug 5th 2005, 12:14 AM
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Rucking Focks  Group: Donating Members Posts: 335 Joined: September 16th 2003 From: The Ethereal Plane (England) Member No.: 2,305 Gender: Not Telling |
I think its quite simple how you avoid them becoming an enemy, you give them the gene activation retro-virus so that half the people gain the ability and thus see us as liberating them from the inequality of serving the protectors out of necessity.
If you free them from a bar steward like this meglomaniac Tavius and make it so they don?t have to give essential resources to individuals who have manipulated their desperation then they aren?t going to become an enemy? the new freedom will make them gracious allies, surely? Then again us promising the Genii technological aid, sharing of information, aid, etc was enough to stop them from attacking us so what?s to stop these people becoming enemies who actually parallel our own Atlantis expedition? |
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| Lagger |
Aug 5th 2005, 3:00 AM
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Chief Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: June 25th 2005 Member No.: 9,349 Gender: Not Telling |
no cause then when the realised we were more advanced, they just wanted to steal our stuff...
my bet is if they find out about atlantis, they will want to claim it as their own.. "right" This post has been edited by Lagger: Aug 5th 2005, 3:01 AM |
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| Alosel |
Aug 5th 2005, 11:39 AM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 701 Joined: March 30th 2005 From: Llanelli, Wales Member No.: 8,667 Gender: Male |
How about giving them the Gene Therapy thing, so they have the Gene, albeit it stronger.
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| Lagger |
Aug 7th 2005, 12:04 AM
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Chief Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: June 25th 2005 Member No.: 9,349 Gender: Not Telling |
stronger, so they can take us out.....
why dont teh asgaurd give us weapons... cause that would make us stronger..... even thought we are allies, they wont give us certain things. You gotta be careful, who says that giving them the gene is enough, we helped the genni steal information, helped them with knowledge, but they still wanted more.. who is to say even if we give them all teh gene, it will be enough, they will want more.... and more... just like the genii |
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| Dafmeister |
Aug 7th 2005, 4:17 AM
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General  Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Lagger @ Aug 7th 2005, 6:04 AM) why dont teh asgaurd give us weapons... cause that would make us stronger..... even thought we are allies, they wont give us certain things. That is why there is an Asgard on the Daedalus. The Asgard dont trust the human race so they assigned an Asgard to oversee the use of hyperdrive. |
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| Sighfienerd |
Aug 7th 2005, 8:56 AM
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Beyond here there be dragons Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Aug 7th 2005, 5:17 AM) That is why there is an Asgard on the Daedalus. The Asgard dont trust the human race so they assigned an Asgard to oversee the use of hyperdrive.  What's up with the Asgard not trusting us? We've saved their little grey behinds several times either because they've asked for our help or we've just been too determined to give up on them. Our relationship with them has been the closest Earth has gotten to having true "friends" from another world. Unless, of course, you mean that the Asgard are afraid we'll blow ourselves up or something. |
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| Dafmeister |
Aug 7th 2005, 9:48 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Sighfienerd @ Aug 7th 2005, 2:56 PM) Unless, of course, you mean that the Asgard are afraid we'll blow ourselves up or something. It's probably something like that. Chances are that if Earth scientists got their hands on the tech within Daedalus they would try to reverse engineer it to see how the Asgard tech worked. |
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| Sighfienerd |
Aug 7th 2005, 10:23 AM
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Beyond here there be dragons Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Aug 7th 2005, 10:48 AM) It's probably something like that. Chances are that if Earth scientists got their hands on the tech within Daedalus they would try to reverse engineer it to see how the Asgard tech worked. Well, it seems to me purely from a rational point of view, that the Asgard should be happy to let us have the technology (with supervision initially, of course) because it would create a more powerful ally for them. It's been obvious that they need an ally like us. What they have in technology - they've lost in strength and determination. An equal alliance would fill in the gaps in each of our defenses. |
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| StoogeMaster |
Aug 12th 2005, 5:25 AM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: August 11th 2005 Member No.: 9,829 Gender: Male |
Trust Colonel Sheppard to take one for the team.
 Sounds like an interesting eposide, can't wait. |
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| Lagger |
Aug 13th 2005, 3:12 AM
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Chief Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: June 25th 2005 Member No.: 9,349 Gender: Not Telling |
could we see some jealousy....... between potential candidates....
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| Aquila |
Sep 18th 2005, 4:44 PM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 703 Joined: April 13th 2004 From: Cultivating American Beech and Chestnut trees Member No.: 4,810 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Felger @ Aug 4th 2005, 10:14 PM) Then again us promising the Genii technological aid, sharing of information, aid, etc was enough to stop them from attacking us so what?s to stop these people becoming enemies who actually parallel our own Atlantis expedition? You know, you bring up an interesting question for me. Since the release of the last SG-A season 2 title,"Allies," I've been contemplating whether "allies" as noted on another thread, means the Wraith have allies, or if Atlantis will. My first thought went to these people from "The Tower." Afterall, even though there might be a problem with the higher-archy, who is to say that in the end things won't turn out well for once? It seems all the other potential allies and recources that were going to work out for Atlantis have gone caputs! Maybe the producers will give the team a break for once? It would be sad to see such an opportunity to go to waste for potential allies once again... I can't wait for this episode...of course, I've said that about all the SG-A episodes!  Aquila the Ancient |
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| Master System Lord Ra |
Jan 6th 2006, 8:32 AM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: November 20th 2005 From: In my Utimate Supermothership over Washington, DC Member No.: 10,532 Gender: Male |
The "Tower" is the center tower of an Atlantis class city/ship. It's just buried!
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| Dafmeister |
Jan 6th 2006, 9:42 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Master System Lord Ra @ Jan 6th 2006, 1:32 PM) The "Tower" is the center tower of an Atlantis class city/ship. It's just buried! Yes? And? Isn't that pretty obvious? Anyone who has seen the episode can work that out. This post has been edited by Dafmeister: Jan 6th 2006, 9:43 AM |
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| Master System Lord Ra |
Jan 6th 2006, 12:28 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: November 20th 2005 From: In my Utimate Supermothership over Washington, DC Member No.: 10,532 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Jan 6th 2006, 9:42 AM) Yes? And? Isn't that pretty obvious? Anyone who has seen the episode can work that out. Well, I haven't seen it yet!!! |
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