I don't see why you're being so petty - rather than countering Rogue's arguments, you're attacking the way in which he words them. Sure, euphemism was the wrong word to use (and it was mispelled ), but that's secondary to the actual argument he was making.

As for your criticism of the use of the word "ultimate" - it does have more than one meaning, you know. Such as "Of the greatest possible size or significance" or "Fundamental; elemental" - both of which are adequate to use to describe the "true" origin of Atlantis. Sure, it was weak to say Atlantis was "originally" from Earth when it was probably built somewhere else (its ultimate origin ) but it hardly causes Rogue's argument to fall down around him.

Okay, his arguments could have been worded more accurately - but I highly doubt you had extreme trouble understanding what he was trying to convey. I mean come on, even Revan let it slide!

(sorry Revan... )

Where's your evidence that 50% of British soldiers killed were shot by Americans? THat's a huge number and a terrible claim especially if you don't have any evidence. I would believe any country that had as many loses from another would consider that an act of war. If you are gonna make those types of claims, you better have some factual evidence to back yourself up. That's almost as silly as saying monkeys and apes rule the planet.

EDIT: Oh wait, you did say that
I wouldn't know, becasue when I said, "...I'm done readings you're posts regarding this topic." I was done reading his posts in this topic. I never made it past the part that I quoted because it was the second time in this thread he insinuated that you can "stretch" the meaning of words to fit your meaning. You'll never have a meaningful discussion with anyone that believes that.

when I said half I didn't actually mean half, over here it's a figure of speach basically meaning that the yanks can't shoot for sh*t and when they do actually hit something it's quite often the people who are on their side,why do you think britain is pulling out of Iraq and Afganistan.

Ugh, I don't want to get dragged into this...I just think you're being a bit overbearing. Instead of focusing on the arguments, you're criticising how they're worded - and because of a few (what is it, two?) questionable word choices, you're sweeping all of Rogue's points away as "tainted". That doesn't seem like very good logic - it seems like some perverse form of attacking the arguer, rather than the argument. Fair enough if you don't have the energy/desire to comb through every one of Rogue's arguments to make sure they are structurally and formally accurate (just to be sure!), but it's not really fair to dismiss them outright.

I'm not really so sure why this is being debated so fiercely.

EDIT: When you use poor reasoning, it should taint your whole argument.

Okay, his arguments could have been worded more accurately - but I highly doubt you had extreme trouble understanding what he was trying to convey. I mean come on, even Revan let it slide!

(sorry Revan... )

I don't know why anybody thinks words cannot be stretched to suit any given person's meaning... The nature of words and meanings and the relationship therein tends to allow a great amount of 'wiggle room'.
Curses! To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!!

I think that in order to communicate in writing, we have to agree to use the same definitions of words. If the words you use don't mean what everyone else thinks they mean, you aren't speaking the same language.

I never read Moby Dick, I should probably get on that.

Wow, reading this thread gave me a headache.

I think I'll go with the blue jello too; it would make me feel better.

You might need glasses.

Yeah but you can just go buy blue jello...

You might need glasses.

I just spent over $5000 on Lasik Eye Surgery. I don't think that's it

I just spent over $5000 on Lasik Eye Surgery. I don't think that's it

Unless they made a boo-boo...

damn you'll go blind in a few yrs after that. cause what they don't say is that your eyes are constantly changing and laser surgery permantly changes your eyes into a certain way that won't change ever again.

when I said half I didn't actually mean half, over here it's a figure of speach basically meaning that the yanks can't shoot for sh*t and when they do actually hit something it's quite often the people who are on their side,why do you think britain is pulling out of Iraq and Afganistan.

Where are we agian? Oh ya, the Science and Tech forums. In science and math a half means 1/2, 0.500000 exactly one half.

Just like a billion means one billion (not just a big number). People shouldn't use numbers if the don't know how to use them. Please stick to integers between 0 and 100.

Easy enough.

I have decided that I want Atlantis, or at least an Aurora class starship, even if its fugly.

Do those each count as "one single thing?"

I have decided that I want Atlantis, or at least an Aurora class starship, even if its fugly.

Do those each count as "one single thing?"