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| KillerMarv |
 Jun 5th 2006, 1:32 PM
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QUOTE(Rogue Ashrak @ Jun 5th 2006, 5:31 PM)  Perhaps the weakness could have been similar in nature to the weakness the Priors have to the Anti-Prior technology? Specifically a type of radiation or sonic frequency that paralyzes all Wraith technology. For example, it could disrupt communication between individual sections of the technology in question. If Wraith technology is at least partly organic, it's not too much of a leap to speculate that it may utilize a type of nervous system for communication. Take a Wraith stunner for example, pulling the trigger sends an electronic message along the nerve pathways to the emitter, which releases the stun pulse in a reflex action. If the Atlanteans had found a way to disrupt these messages, then they could render Wraith technology useless. What's more, it would be a defensive technology, rig a planet or star system with a satellite network broadcasting the jamming frequency, and voila, you have one enitrely Wraith-proof planetary system. No need to hunt down and exterminate Wraith, because they can't get to you. Your idea is very good... But like I said on the post above, if the Ancients wouldn't have found a way to atack all the Wraith at once, it's obvious that after a while they would have become resistant to this weapon you're describing... Since the Ancients would have only defended themselves, the Wraith would have had time to make their technology immune to their weapon, than the Ancients would have needed to rebuild its systems. |
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| JamesG |
Jun 5th 2006, 8:06 PM
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Possibly their weakness could be targeting the non-organic areas of their ships. The non-oganic components can't heal themselves and the Wraith would be forced to repair the damaged areas, otherwise parts their ship would be vulnerable.
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| KillerMarv |
Jun 5th 2006, 8:16 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(JamesG @ Jun 6th 2006, 4:06 AM) Possibly their weakness could be targeting the non-organic areas of their ships. The non-oganic components can't heal themselves and the Wraith would be forced to repair the damaged areas, otherwise parts their ship would be vulnerable. Well, this would simply mean to target the hulls of the ships, since those are surely non-organic, since the ship must withstand the radiations of space. QUOTE(JamesG @ Jun 6th 2006, 4:06 AM) » Click for Spoiler « This is surely not the weakness the Ancients were talking about... But I agree this being a weakness... |
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| Rogue Ashrak |
Jun 6th 2006, 9:32 AM
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Hero of Time  Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,134 Joined: January 7th 2005 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 7,502 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(KillerMarv @ Jun 6th 2006, 4:32 AM) Your idea is very good... But like I said on the post above, if the Ancients wouldn't have found a way to atack all the Wraith at once, it's obvious that after a while they would have become resistant to this weapon you're describing... Since the Ancients would have only defended themselves, the Wraith would have had time to make their technology immune to their weapon, than the Ancients would have needed to rebuild its systems. That would mean completely redesigning their technology. The Wraith wouldn't be able to simply make their technology immune, because the elements of the technology that the weapon would attack, are a critical part of the design. The only way to negate the effect of the weapon would be to eliminate the organic components of their tecnology and develop fully mechanical replacements. |
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| KillerMarv |
Jun 6th 2006, 11:45 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
The parts of the ships that are organic, are inside the ships; outside there still are mechanical hulls that protect the ships against radiation and other things. If your weapon delivers something on a sonic frequency, than the Wraith can install systems on their ships' hulls to block these frequencies. There is no need to replace the organic parts of the ships.
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| Hayes Johnmichael |
Mar 5th 2007, 2:04 PM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: October 23rd 2006 From: Nottingham Member No.: 12,702 Gender: Male |
well i think what could happen is that the atlantis people find a way to give a virus to the wraith and allow it to be transfered via their mental like abilities, which would disable their ships aswell because i cant remember which episode it was but they said their controls required their mental abilities to operate so if the virus could download into the ships and destroy it aswell as other wraith its just a matter of time .
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| KillerMarv |
Mar 5th 2007, 2:35 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Hayes Johnmichael @ Mar 5th 2007, 9:04 PM) well i think what could happen is that the atlantis people find a way to give a virus to the wraith and allow it to be transfered via their mental like abilities, which would disable their ships aswell because i cant remember which episode it was but they said their controls required their mental abilities to operate so if the virus could download into the ships and destroy it aswell as other wraith its just a matter of time . How would a virus transfer through mental abilities though?  Not possible IMO... Usually in SF movies, you can make a person go mad by mind control, but not really infect one with an organic virus remotely. The idea could be right though. You could have said that by intense concentration, the Ancients could have confused the minds of the Wraith psychically and wouldn't allow them to concentrate in flying the ship. Something extremely similar to the battle meditation technique from Star Wars. But that would require continue concentration from the Ancients, and it would certainly not infect the ship. This post has been edited by KillerMarv: Mar 5th 2007, 2:36 PM |
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 5th 2007, 3:10 PM
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General  Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(KillerMarv @ Mar 5th 2007, 7:35 PM) How would a virus transfer through mental abilities though? I guess if they need a direct link to a Wraith (in the same way an Ancient Chair requires a person to be physically in contact with it) it could pass into the ship. It is unlikely that a virus could be transferred through telepathic means though. |
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| JTMAG1 |
Mar 5th 2007, 3:32 PM
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The Last Shogun Group: Members Posts: 3,889 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Long Beach, CA USA Member No.: 6,251 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Mar 5th 2007, 3:10 PM) I guess if they need a direct link to a Wraith (in the same way an Ancient Chair requires a person to be physically in contact with it) it could pass into the ship. It is unlikely that a virus could be transferred through telepathic means though. Yeah, a Virus is a phyiscal object. How could you mentally transport it into another being's body. This conversation makes we wonder if the Wraith ships get radiation sickness, do they feel pain when we shoot them? |
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 5th 2007, 4:55 PM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(JTMAG1 @ Mar 5th 2007, 8:32 PM) This conversation makes we wonder if the Wraith ships get radiation sickness, The Wraith can only travel a limited distance in hyperspace due to radiation affecting the organic components of their ships so I suppose it does suffer from radiation sickness in a way.QUOTE do they feel pain when we shoot them? That would depend if they are sentient. We know their Hives are partly organic and technically alive but being alive doesn't mean it is aware. |
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| Revan |
Mar 5th 2007, 5:14 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Mar 5th 2007, 4:55 PM) That would depend if they are sentient. We know their Hives are partly organic and technically alive but being alive doesn't mean it is aware. We don't know if the ship is one truly interconnected organic entity. An entity that controls its own organic components and communicates damage and healing on its own... I think of them more like fungus farms that somebody is keeping. |
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| OdinisThor'sDad |
Mar 5th 2007, 7:55 PM
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ASSgards are pussies!  Group: Moderators Posts: 7,208 Joined: January 29th 2003 From: Asan, South Korea (that's the good one) Member No.: 490 Gender: Male |
If the Wraith as a race are clever enought to genetically engineer a ship I'm sure they're clever enough to create a battleship that does not feel pain/damage.
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| Lagger |
Mar 27th 2007, 8:54 PM
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as stated...
im starting to think the virus idea.... a virus that will kill the hiveships organic parts  .... |
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| Revan |
Mar 29th 2007, 11:36 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
Maybe the Wraith as a species have a genetic weakness of some sort... maybe like the weakness that was exploited in Poisoning The Well...
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| Lancelot |
Mar 31st 2007, 9:29 AM
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Chief Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: December 10th 2005 From: Ireland Member No.: 10,650 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Lagger @ Mar 28th 2007, 2:54 AM) as stated... im starting to think the virus idea.... a virus that will kill the hiveships organic parts ....even better a flesh eating virus that not only kills them but also destroys the tissue their made of |
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| SGC: Gen. Hazza Mazza |
Apr 12th 2007, 3:23 AM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: April 12th 2007 From: sydney Member No.: 13,625 Gender: Male |
even if there was a weakness i do not think that it matters anymore. in the episode aurora the captain says that they had a vital communicay that needed to be taken to atlantis immediately in order to use that intel to their advantage, and it has been almost 10000 years since that intel was retrieved so i dont think that it would be useful now and the wraith would have most likely fixed the weakness by now since they were aware of it in the the communicay.
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| Dafmeister |
Apr 12th 2007, 4:20 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
The Wraith weren't aware of Aurora's existance for the entire 10,000 years. Once Atlantis was brought back online, a signal was transmitted from Aurora to Atlantis and the Wraith most likely just picked it up. At most, they had a little under two years to find out the information. Two years is not enough time to sort out any weakness the Wraith race may have.
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| SGC: Gen. Hazza Mazza |
 Apr 12th 2007, 4:25 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: April 12th 2007 From: sydney Member No.: 13,625 Gender: Male |
QUOTE Two years is not enough time to sort out any weakness the Wraith race may have. you would be surprised, the wraith found a way to counter act the beaming technology in 2 minutes.  |
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| Dafmeister |
Apr 12th 2007, 4:34 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
Finding a method of blocking beaming technology is different from finding a solution to a possible genetic weakness.
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| SGC: Gen. Hazza Mazza |
Apr 12th 2007, 4:46 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: April 12th 2007 From: sydney Member No.: 13,625 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Apr 12th 2007, 7:34 PM) Finding a method of blocking beaming technology is different from finding a solution to a possible genetic weakness. only if it is "definitely" a generic weakness but what if it is a technical weakness or possibly a weakness in the non-bio-organic parts of the wraith technology.it could even be the possible metalic composition that the wraith ships or other technology is made of. lol. and i dont want to get into a who's right who's wrong argument now, lol lets just say that both views have merit. |
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| nightshifter1 |
Nov 6th 2007, 12:50 PM
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it will probably end up they will create a virus that will mutate the organic components of the ships so that they will not function properly resulting in the failure of key systems allowing the atlantis expadition destroy them
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| Dafmeister |
Nov 6th 2007, 2:24 PM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
As we've seen, the organic systems are extremely resilient as they have to survive in space so it is highly unlikely they would be affected by a virus.
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| BadMoFo |
Nov 27th 2007, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(JamesG @ Jun 5th 2006, 6:06 PM) Possibly their weakness could be targeting the non-organic areas of their ships. The non-oganic components can't heal themselves and the Wraith would be forced to repair the damaged areas, otherwise parts their ship would be vulnerable. » Click to Show Spoiler « » Click to Show Spoiler «
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| lancelot2 |
Nov 28th 2007, 6:13 AM
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QUOTE(BadMoFo @ Nov 28th 2007, 5:41 AM) » Click to Show Spoiler « why did you just repeat what james g said? that was rather pointless. personally I think the weakness might have something to do with the hive phycic link if you messed with it you might be able to get the wraith to do what you wanted? This post has been edited by lancelot2: Nov 28th 2007, 6:22 AM |
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