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dr lee
post Jun 7th 2006, 3:21 PM
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I did a quick search but i couldn't find a thread on this

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After discovering an Ancient outpost with the gate address in its database, Elizabeth Weir joins Colonel Sheppard's team on a mission to Asuras, a world inhabited by a society of millions. They are an advanced people, and it doesn't take the team long to conclude that they are (unascended) Ancients. Their home is very much Lantian in design. Their leader is Oberoth, a fit and powerful man in his 50s who has a certain arrogant intenseness about him.

They also meet a more quiet, sensitive Asuran leader named Niam, who brings the team before the Asuran High Council. There Oberoth explains that they are an off-shoot from the Ancients who long ago inhabited Atlantis. Though their race was once united, the Asurans left when the Lantians did not heed their council during the war with the Wraith. The Asurans resettled on this world thousands of years ago.

Weir and Sheppard challenge Oberoth about the persistent threat of the Wraith, and are amazed to hear that the Asurans have a plan to completely eradicate them from the Pegasus Galaxy. But he will not share the details with them.

Oberoth is intensely curious when he learns that Weir's team has set up a base of operations in a Lantian city, though she is careful not to reveal that it is Atlantis itself. She hopes the Asurans might spare some Zero Point Modules in trade, since they are able to make them and have an abundance of them.

When the team is ready to depart through the gate, Oberoth reveals his true colors. He orders his security guards to seize them. The team is restrained as the Asurans begin to probe their minds for information, learning all about Atlantis's survival during the Wraith seige 10,000 years ago, and that the expedition from Earth now occupies it.

When the team awakens, Niam reveals that they are in space. The Asuran city is an Ancient city ship, like Atlantis, and with their wealth of Z.P.M.s they are able to make it fly. The ship enters hyperspace. It's destination: Atlantis. They will finish what they started, destroying the original home of their creators.

The Asurans, as Niam reveals to Dr. Weir, are not biologically Lantian. They are artificial lifeforms that evolved from a Lantian experiment to create powerful and aggressive nanites to attack the Wraith on a cellular level ("Hot Zone"). But the microscopic creatures came together to form increasingly larger and more complex organisms, eventually imitating their creators to become human in appearance. When the Lantians realized their experiment had gotten out of hand, they attacked this new race with their fleet of warships and nearly wiped them out.

Weir is stunned, and suspects that the Ancient experiment may have been the genesis of the Replicators that SG-1 battled in our own galaxy. Those mechanical beings were created by an android that was invented by a mysterious scientist (SG-1: "Menace") -- possibly one of the Lantians who resettled in the Milky Way galaxy after the war was lost. These Replicators later evolved into human forms, made up of billions of nanites (SG-1: "Unnatural Selection"). Weir also feels compassion for them, despite what they truly are.

But Niam is not like Oberoth. He is one of a few among them who still wishes to imitate his creators, to reach ascension, as they did, and so equal them and join them. Killing the inhabitants of Atlantis surely cannot help them reach enlightenment. In fact, Niam believes that the only way it is possible is for Dr. McKay to do what they themselves are unable to do, and which the Lantians long ago refused to do: rewrite their aggressive nature out of their base code. He wishes to quell a rage that is built into his very nature.


i can't remember where i originally found this but this is going to be the fifth episode of season three and there have been 19 spoiler pics revealed for this episode.

Due to the number i'll just link to the index page for the pictures so i won't take up that much spoace on this page.

Progeny Spoiler Pics
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post Jun 7th 2006, 4:58 PM
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I have to say, that the story behind this episode is briliant, beginning with the way their society has come to be, giving some sort of explanation to why they want to destroy anything that has to do with the Ancients... This Oberoth fellow looks very familiar to me, I don't really recall where I saw him the last time...

It would be nice if the Atlantis team could at least manage to steal one of those ZPMs from the Asuran abundant deposits... They would probably not even notice this... biggrin.gif wink.gif

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post Jun 7th 2006, 5:04 PM
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This Oberoth fellow looks very familiar to me, I don't really recall where I saw him the last time...


I know what you mean i've seen him in something but i can't think of what it was, part of me thinks it was a SG1 episode
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post Jun 7th 2006, 5:17 PM
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Well, this link helped me a lot... First I found out the name of the actor, than a google search, and behold... biggrin.gif

David Ogden Stiers
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post Jun 7th 2006, 6:48 PM
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I cannot believe that DOS is going to be in it. That is awesome! What a great snag to get him to come on the show. The bumps up the status of the show some what!
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post Jun 7th 2006, 6:57 PM
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blink.gif no way 1 he's Jumba! w00t.gif

Hold on he sings? huh.gif

i've just noticed that wier hair has got longer in S3

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post Jun 8th 2006, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(dr lee @ Jun 7th 2006, 6:04 PM) *

I know what you mean i've seen him in something but i can't think of what it was, part of me thinks it was a SG1 episode


The Dead Zone


EDIT: Did I see a high-tech gun in one of the pictures?

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post Jun 8th 2006, 1:25 AM
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post Jun 8th 2006, 3:45 AM
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It probably is. They had them in 'Aurora' didn't they?
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post Jun 8th 2006, 8:47 AM
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Nah... they had these cool looking handheld crystals...

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post Jun 8th 2006, 10:29 AM
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It looks like the same technology. They both have an part of it that looks like a crystal. The Asuran weapon is probably a further development of the one seen in 'Aurora'.
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post Jun 8th 2006, 11:24 PM
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Just a little more info on DOS...he also played Charles Emerson Winchester on M.A.S.H., my only hope is that his charactor will become a recurring role
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post Jun 9th 2006, 12:00 AM
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The Asuran weapon is probably a further development of the one seen in 'Aurora'.


Yeah could be... but I still prefer the look ofthe one in Aurora biggrin.gif
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post Jun 9th 2006, 2:23 AM
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Didn't the one in Aurora just stun? It made no cool SFX flash of light of blast of energy...
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post Jun 9th 2006, 3:46 AM
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QUOTE(dr lee @ Jun 7th 2006, 6:57 PM) *

blink.gif no way 1 he's Jumba! w00t.gif

Hold on he sings? huh.gif

i've just noticed that wier hair has got longer in S3

Wow long hair she looks really pretty. Looks like a good episode too.
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Didn't the one in Aurora just stun? It made no cool SFX flash of light of blast of energy...


True we only saw it stun... but I dont think we have seen the full capabilities of that weapon yet
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post Jun 9th 2006, 1:47 PM
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QUOTE(kordone @ Jun 9th 2006, 12:22 PM) *

True we only saw it stun... but I dont think we have seen the full capabilities of that weapon yet


One would hope the Orion will have cool toys on board. Assuming it doesn't get blown up, but there is already a thread for that.
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QUOTE(Revan @ Jun 9th 2006, 7:47 PM) *

One would hope the Orion will have cool toys on board. Assuming it doesn't get blown up, but there is already a thread for that.

yea some really kick wraith ass toys
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Gateworld has released some facts, that they call "plot details". It's much shorter than the spoilers that started this thread, but I think they deserve the attention of being posted in here:

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Scouring the Atlantian database, Dr. Rodney McKay (David Hewlett) discovers a reference to an abandoned Ancient testing site. The team's investigation of the site uncovers a vast metropolis supporting millions of Ancients. Eager to create an alliance with such an advanced society, Weir (Torri Higginson) is shocked when their leader Oberoth (David Ogden Stiers) refuses the offer.

Seeing no way to appeal to their humanity to help save the Pegasus Galaxy from the Wraith, Weir and the team head back to Atlantis. However, before they are able to leave, the team is ambushed and taken prisoner by Oberoth and his guards. They are then subjected to a mind probe by what they now discover are actually Replicators who have taken the form of Ancients.

Having created the Replicators as a weapon against the Wraith, the Ancients feared they were losing control of their creation. But the Ancients' attempts to destroy the Replicators failed. Now, the surviving Replicators are divided -- some wish to mimic their creators and seek ascension. Others, including Oberoth, want nothing more than the destruction of Atlantis as revenge for the Ancients' betrayal. Will the team be able to find a way to free themselves and stop the Replicators from reaching Atlantis?


Nothing new, nothing new, seems a bit too late for Gateworld... 1.gif
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post Aug 3rd 2006, 7:36 AM
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interesting... but i doubt our atlantis stand a chance head to head with another atlantian type city...

something else like a rebellion must happen
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post Aug 3rd 2006, 9:35 AM
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QUOTE(Lagger @ Aug 3rd 2006, 1:36 PM) *
something else like a rebellion must happen
That was said in the original post. Niam and a group of Asurans want to stop Oberoth and ascend so they can be with those who created them.
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post Aug 3rd 2006, 2:36 PM
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QUOTE(kordone @ Jun 8th 2006, 2:25 AM) *

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Hi guys i'm new but have been watching stargate for a long time... so first question is it just me or does the weapon in the above picture look like the bajorn pistol used in startrek? Here's the link for the bajorn one and the other one is in the previous post


http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/...oran-phaser.jpg
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post Aug 3rd 2006, 2:53 PM
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No, they look nothing alike.
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post Aug 3rd 2006, 5:19 PM
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I think the more important question is 'what is going on with the guy on the far right?' is he asleep or is he checking out Ronon?
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