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| Arcady |
Aug 26th 2005, 5:19 PM
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Base Commander Group: Admin Posts: 4,886 Joined: November 26th 2002 From: Dallas, Texas USA Member No.: 1 Gender: Male |
Season 2, Episode 7 - Instinct
Air Dates - US: August 26 2005, Canada: August 29 2005 The team discovers a young Wraith girl who has been raised by a human, and is in hiding from the people of her human village in fear of her life. Episode Guide | Spoilers | Teaser (This topic is for people who have seen the episode to discuss it. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read this topic.) |
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| Erised |
Aug 26th 2005, 9:31 PM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: June 8th 2005 From: ask :) Member No.: 9,232 Gender: Female |
Ok I actually felt sorry for the girl! Now I know... don't EVER trust the wraith!
Poor Sheppard! She fed on him and now he has the virus in him and he will turn into wraith! Well, of coutse Doc Bekket will find a cure but still I can't wait for the next episode, and we will have to wait for TWO weeks! How much more wrong can you be? You are trying to get rid of the insect part, but you get rid of the human part! o.O |
| Aquila |
Aug 26th 2005, 9:50 PM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 703 Joined: April 13th 2004 From: Cultivating American Beech and Chestnut trees Member No.: 4,810 Gender: Male |
Indeed, it is too bad that Beckett was not able to test his syrum when it was complete to see if it would work. Really quite a sad episode in the long run...
I am however, very much looking forward to the next episode with Sheppard and his slight infestation. Aquila the Ancient |
| Ziu |
Aug 26th 2005, 11:00 PM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: July 28th 2004 Member No.: 5,813 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Aquila @ Aug 26th 2005, 9:50 PM) Indeed, it is too bad that Beckett was not able to test his syrum when it was complete to see if it would work. Really quite a sad episode in the long run... I am however, very much looking forward to the next episode with Sheppard and his slight infestation. Pretty lousy that it has to be in two weeks! Why is that anyway? Aquila the Ancient You have to wait two weeks because of the SG-1 Marathon. I guess you didn't vote for you favorite episodes. |
| Erised |
Aug 26th 2005, 11:19 PM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: June 8th 2005 From: ask :) Member No.: 9,232 Gender: Female |
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| Dagwood |
Aug 27th 2005, 1:13 AM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: August 16th 2005 From: Carthage, Texas Member No.: 9,887 Gender: Male |
how many more times can Sheppard be attacked by a bug/wraith before he becomes something worse than either one alone?
I see a severe case of Lt Forditis coming on |
| Mental Case |
Aug 27th 2005, 8:33 AM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: February 19th 2003 Member No.: 751 Gender: Male |
This episode felt somewhat of a downer. I just felt kinda dissapointed, maybe it was because I didn't see the threat of infection until I came here. I just thought like, oh big woop, they shot some super-wraith. I admit the potential for more does kinda shed it in a different light.. but I do consider it semi-spoiler in that it was mentioned here with certainty that we'd see infestation next. I can let that pass though, because in a way it makes there be some point to this, in my opinion lackluster episode.
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| Ringbearer |
Aug 27th 2005, 12:20 PM
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Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: April 22nd 2005 From: USA- New Mexico Member No.: 8,892 Gender: Female |
I loved this episode!!! It had me at the edge of the seat the whole time!! I do feel a little sorry for the girl wraith. She wanted to change but she couldn't. But I still love this episode!! Very cool!!
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| SomeEvilGuy |
Aug 27th 2005, 3:13 PM
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Airman Basic ![]() Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: August 20th 2005 Member No.: 9,924 Gender: Male |
Didn't think this was one of the best episodes...didn't really do too much for plot development, except right at the very end. But i'm sure there will be much better things to come.
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| Ilzy |
Aug 27th 2005, 3:29 PM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: March 2nd 2005 From: Latvia Member No.: 8,299 Gender: Female |
This episode was ok but far too predictable. In the middle of the episode my brother said how things will fold out with some 90% precision.
One thing, though. I finally see the light at the end of the proverbial tunnel considering the Wraith. For some time now I was wondering what are they going to do with Wraith knowing that it's impossible to win them with the usual weapons. Now it's clear - turn them into humans! Wonder how many seasons we'll have to wait til that happens... |
| Crilisin |
Aug 27th 2005, 7:07 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 136 Joined: December 8th 2004 From: Gihad Member No.: 7,192 Gender: Male |
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| usmctech99 |
Aug 28th 2005, 1:12 AM
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SILENCE!!!! I Kill you! Group: Donating Members Posts: 282 Joined: July 29th 2005 From: Lakewood, Colorado Member No.: 9,693 Gender: Male |
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| taujin |
Aug 28th 2005, 1:34 AM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 196 Joined: July 21st 2004 Member No.: 5,684 Gender: Male |
I thought this episode was average. There were a few things that I thought were goofs.
QUOTE(Aquila @ Aug 26th 2005, 9:50 PM) Indeed, it is too bad that Beckett was not able to test his syrum when it was complete to see if it would work. Really quite a sad episode in the long run... I was extremely disappointed with Dr. Beckett for bringing his half-tested retro-virus to this planet, especially when he knew it was far from ready. Granted he wanted to test it on some 'live Wraith cells' but that was extremely premature since he said that even on the cellular level, the virus was not working. So, for him to bring a potential contagion to another planet was downright irresponsible. The one goof I spotted was the fact that the villagers were not even in the iron age (they killed the crashed Wraith with pitchforks made from wood), and they clearly did not have any firearms. Yet, the first words out from Ellia's father when the SG team stormed the house was "Don't shoot" and his next sentence was to ask them to put their guns down. How would Ellia's father know about guns amd shooting? Also, for Ellia and her father to remain hidden from their own village for 10 years, how and where did they get their supplies? That chemistry set certainly wasn't home made and neither were their clothes. Finally, I don't understand why the adult Wraith that was killing the villagers would allow Ellia to live and be raised by a human. The adult could just as easliy see through Ellia's mind to find out where she lived, and killed the man. The Wraith consider humans as food. Who would allow their young to be raised by the livestock? Maybe the Wraith have a different definition of "playing with your food." And poor Sheppard. He has been infected by the Wraith virus more times than he has gotten laid in the Pegasus system I think I'll only score this 6 out of 10. TJ |
| Lord_Yu |
Aug 28th 2005, 2:00 AM
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I like that episode. Stargate is soo full of cliches with perfect heros and wicked villains. It's intriguing to consider if things are evil by nature or subject to choices and perception.
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| Yamarin |
Aug 28th 2005, 2:39 AM
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QUOTE(taujin @ Aug 28th 2005, 7:34 PM) I thought this episode was average. There were a few things that I thought were goofs. I was extremely disappointed with Dr. Beckett for bringing his half-tested retro-virus to this planet, especially when he knew it was far from ready. Granted he wanted to test it on some 'live Wraith cells' but that was extremely premature since he said that even on the cellular level, the virus was not working. So, for him to bring a potential contagion to another planet was downright irresponsible. The one goof I spotted was the fact that the villagers were not even in the iron age (they killed the crashed Wraith with pitchforks made from wood), and they clearly did not have any firearms. Yet, the first words out from Ellia's father when the SG team stormed the house was "Don't shoot" and his next sentence was to ask them to put their guns down. How would Ellia's father know about guns amd shooting? TJ They had steel shovels...and some farmers still have wooden pitchforks! The wraith had weapons...they could've been mentioned in history from cullings...besides we don't know the planets history maybe they were more developed before the cullings as well QUOTE(taujin @ Aug 28th 2005, 7:34 PM) Also, for Ellia and her father to remain hidden from their own village for 10 years, how and where did they get their supplies? That chemistry set certainly wasn't home made and neither were their clothes. TJ ever heard of glass blowing? QUOTE(taujin @ Aug 28th 2005, 7:34 PM) Finally, I don't understand why the adult Wraith that was killing the villagers would allow Ellia to live and be raised by a human. The adult could just as easliy see through Ellia's mind to find out where she lived, and killed the man. The Wraith consider humans as food. Who would allow their young to be raised by the livestock? Maybe the Wraith have a different definition of "playing with your food." TJ she said she was able to block it...maybe it didn't have any reason to block her... QUOTE(taujin @ Aug 28th 2005, 7:34 PM) And poor Sheppard. He has been infected by the Wraith virus more times than he has gotten laid in the Pegasus system TJ For crying out loud it's sience fiction, a tv show! If they were to make sure there were no gaps and everything nothing would be left for imagination... I for one loved the eipsode, however think they could have spent more time on the ending... ...however I guess it continues as mentioned eh? how do we really know he was infected? unless it's a spoiler? |
| usmctech99 |
Aug 28th 2005, 3:24 AM
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SILENCE!!!! I Kill you! Group: Donating Members Posts: 282 Joined: July 29th 2005 From: Lakewood, Colorado Member No.: 9,693 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Yamarin @ Aug 28th 2005, 1:39 AM) ...however I guess it continues as mentioned eh? how do we really know he was infected? unless it's a spoiler? That was a spoiler for the next episode... don't know where you're from Yamarin, but in the U.S., on SciFi, they show clips for the next episode during the credits, do they not do that where you are? |
| Pitry |
Aug 28th 2005, 8:27 AM
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,785 Joined: February 19th 2003 From: Israel Member No.: 745 Gender: Female |
Er, Erised, your first post states a spoiler to episodes that haven't been aired yet. Please throw them into the proper spoiler tags. Thankee.
Argh. Decent, nothing more, nothing less. Very predictable, almos as Ex Deus Machina. Sigh. Jewel Staite could have given a more interesting wraith, IMHO. Under-used, big time. Sob. Extremely foolish of Beckett to bring the virus there, too. I mean, what was he thinking. Well, it's a lead-on to something more interesting, so I'll hope it would be more interesting. Why can we never have an interesting wraith? Why are they all always either monsters with no apparnt coherent reason of behaviour, or like Elya, tamed and wanting to be human... I mean, can the writes please give the Wraith some point, something that woudl distinguish them, why are they these monsters, some depth! QUOTE That was a spoiler for the next episode... don't know where you're from Yamarin, but in the U.S., on SciFi, they show clips for the next episode during the credits, do they not do that where you are? SciFi promos are known to be highly spoilerific. For the love of all false gods, for those of us who have been saved from these promos, it's still not a reason to blabber on without tags This post has been edited by Pitry: Aug 28th 2005, 8:29 AM |
| Stargate Master |
Aug 28th 2005, 12:11 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: June 3rd 2004 From: County Durham, England, UK Member No.: 5,193 Gender: Male |
Nice episode from Atlantis, lots of action! Jewel Staite played the part of the female Wraith excellently, pity she had to die at the end. It was a big shock when we found out that she had actually been feeding on people aswell as the other adult Wraith.
Overall I would rate this episode 8/10. Good week for Atlantis. |
| usmctech99 |
Aug 28th 2005, 1:59 PM
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SILENCE!!!! I Kill you! Group: Donating Members Posts: 282 Joined: July 29th 2005 From: Lakewood, Colorado Member No.: 9,693 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Pitry @ Aug 28th 2005, 7:27 AM) SciFi promos are known to be highly spoilerific. For the love of all false gods, for those of us who have been saved from these promos, it's still not a reason to blabber on without tags Yes, that was my point actually... that not everyone in the world gets the same commercials that are rammed down our throats over here. The worst is watching SG-1 and about every commercial break includes the teaser (SciFi's term not mine, I too would use 'spoiler') of the Atlantis episode that's on next. |
| Yamarin |
Aug 28th 2005, 2:55 PM
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| sg69leader |
Aug 28th 2005, 10:13 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: August 13th 2004 Member No.: 6,035 Gender: Male |
I kind of felt sorry for Ellia. It was an ok episode.
What was weird was that Ronan would constantly check his ammo, which got me thinking, where does he get ammo from. |
| Auntie Em! |
Aug 29th 2005, 2:30 AM
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Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
I liked this episode. I did not find it easy to guess what was going to happen. It had lots of action and McKay was WAY toned down.
For those of you guys who was complaining they did not feel like a team well they sure were in this episode. For those of you complaining that Teyla cloths were to tight. They were not in this episode. I don't even recall seeing her cleave [/gasp] This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Aug 29th 2005, 2:31 AM |
| fargatefirefly |
Aug 29th 2005, 10:23 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: August 29th 2005 Member No.: 10,004 Gender: Male |
Anybody else notice when the girl (Jewel) was psychically spying on the other wraith?
"I saw a River." MUHAHAHA!!! I have seen Serenity at a screening in June, I own the whole Firefly series on DVD, and I busted out laughing when she said that! It's good to know that the writers of the show are willing to put little nods like that in their stories. Kind of like when Vala met Cam for the first time in SG1, that was a priceless moment too. Go ahead and tell me it wasn't a reference. I'll just pretend I didn't see you and keep giggling whenever I think about it. |
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Aug 29th 2005, 10:38 AM
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Beyond here there be dragons Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(fargatefirefly @ Aug 29th 2005, 11:23 AM) I have seen Serenity at a screening in June, I own the whole Firefly series on DVD, and I busted out laughing when she said that! It's good to know that the writers of the show are willing to put little nods like that in their stories. Kind of like when Vala met Cam for the first time in SG1, that was a priceless moment too. Go ahead and tell me it wasn't a reference. I'll just pretend I didn't see you and keep giggling whenever I think about it. I think you're right. It was one of those little aware banter moments that John and Aeryn used to indulge in, but they moved on very quickly and re-focused on Daniel/Vala, which is as it should be. |
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