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post Mar 21st 2003, 10:59 AM
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Fallen - Part 1

When SG-1 arrives on a planet (while tracking down evidence of the Ancients) they are in for a surprise: instead, they find Daniel there. Daniel has no memory of how he got there, or who he is. And the natives know little else about Daniel except they found without any clothes on.

The Tok'ra once again want to enlist the Tauri's aid in battling the Gou-ald, which ends up with Jonas and Daniel (with some memory back?) going undercover on a Gou'ald ship. Somehow, Teal'c becomes Yu's prisoner.

#thanks to 'ferret' for the tip

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post Mar 22nd 2003, 1:06 AM
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It will be interesting to see if Daniel and Jonas getting along. Teal'c as Yu prisioner...I bet he wants an alliance with the Tau'ri and the asgard.

Didn't we do the whole Yu has Teal'c prisoner thing?
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post Mar 22nd 2003, 3:52 PM
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I can see Yu using Teal'c as blackmail in order to get help from us or the asguard.
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post Mar 22nd 2003, 3:57 PM
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sorry... it's on tv and i just realised why Yu likes us, Jack stopped him getting shot by Neirti. Thats the first time we see him, i think he likes us really smile.gif cause daniel says he was involved with some positive stuff, maybe a not so evil shakehead?

He's also the only one of the 3 in the treaty thats not dead.
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post Mar 22nd 2003, 6:48 PM
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I think Yu's a decent guy too, in the episode "The Warrior" He lets Teal'c out of his mothership with intel about Imhotep so that he can not only save SG1 but the Jaffa rebellion as well. and in Full Circle he shows up with other System lords to save Abydos - although he was really more concerned about anubis becomeing all powerful, the point is that he took Daniel's advice about the situation.
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post Mar 22nd 2003, 7:45 PM
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I think you guys are missing one thing, Yu Never posed as a god...

He was China's first Emperor......... never did he masqurade as a "deity"

So I wouldn't hold Yu on the same level as the rest of the system lords.!

He may be ruthless.. But hell, you would have to be decently ruthless to rule the galaxy.

Plus ...... Hez a Gou'auld alien.gif
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post Mar 22nd 2003, 10:41 PM
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Actually I made a whole post about Yu's historic role earlier (I happen to be Chinese) it can be found here

And BTW - he wasn't the first emporer. Qin Shi Huang was. He was the first king to establish a hereditary dyansty in china.

BTW - this is what I wrote in my other post:

In chinese History, Yu was the stooper of floods.

His dedication was to his people, whom he placed above both himself and his family.

During a period of flooding, he worked endlessly for 13 years and walked by his own citystate three times without entering his home, each time detured by work.

He maintained an open door policy and, being of humble origens, listened to the complaints of his people - which was new considering that this was thousands of years ago. (We're talking around 2100 BC)

His only major fault was an obsession with punctuality. (Which could be explained if here Gou'ald right?)

That said, I think we now know why Yu is portrayed the way he is, assuming of course that the writers know anything about Chinese history.... which I'm asuming they don't since they gave guy a 'modified' qing dynasty (approx. 1800 AD) haircut.)

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post Mar 22nd 2003, 10:48 PM
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lol w00t.gif

oh man, this is SO unfair...I wanna see this episode!

AARRGGHHH....I gotta wait 'till JUNE?????

damn
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post Mar 23rd 2003, 6:21 AM
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Perhaps he is a kind of semi-Tok'ra. Either way it's pretty clear he will end up fighting on our side against Anubis, I think there will end up being a massive space battle between the Tau're, the Asguard and Yu on one side and Anubis and perhaps other conquered Goa'uld on the other.

I don't think we will turn on Yu at the end but I'm not so sure about him. Once Anubis is out of the way he will see us as a threat and in typical snakehead mannor, may try to conquer us. Or maybe not - maybe he will forge a permanant alliance with us, but I doubt it as he is still a Goa'uld after all.
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post Mar 23rd 2003, 10:46 AM
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daniel and jonas shod be hilarious biggrin.gif someone really needs to teach that boy a lesson! er bt i fink sam will go skitta at daniel! he neva went to see her! well the ova two were in life death situations i suppose bt still she was the most when he died! crying.gif
well i just cant wait shod be well good!
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post Mar 23rd 2003, 11:05 AM
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Perhaps he didn't visit he because he didn't want her to know he was around, I mean, the amout of times she gets herself on life support one way or another - he can't stop workin every 5 mins to come and see her.
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Can you imagine Jack locked in a room with Daniel, Jonas, and Sam? The three of them will be conversing on some higher intellectual plane while he's just trying to get them to shut up and play cards or something.... laugh.gif
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I suppose that Daniel could have come seen Sam in his ascended form, but I don't think she was really really tested in the way that Jack was in Abyss and Teal'C was in the Changeling. I mean these guys really put up with something that nobody should have gone through. I'm sure that if Sam Carter had been in a similar life- threatening and will- losing position, Daniel would have def been there for her. smile.gif

But it won't matter if she was still pissed at him in S7 coz he won't remember being ascended and all! biggrin.gif
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post Mar 24th 2003, 10:20 PM
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Maybe Yu will "rebel" as the original Goa'uld did thus becoming Tok'ra (against Ra). So we know that somer Goa'ul;d have a conscious, and maybe with the Tok'ra's numbers so low after the attack on their base, Yu will turn and take his followers to increase the Tok'ra's numbers and help fight Anubis.

It is possible that he has been waiting for the right time before making his move to avoid defeat. With so many system lords destroyed in Full Circle, maybe this is the right time.

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thats also proberly why Yu, is so hard to defeate. An "free" soldier fights harder than a "forced" soldier!! i have always thought that we and yu will get a "Temperary Truch". i think YU will do some think compleatly unexpectet (positivt charged), maby he will sacrifice him self or something? But the tauri souldent trust him still.
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post Mar 26th 2003, 11:47 PM
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i think jone should still in team ... laugh.gif
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post Mar 28th 2003, 5:47 AM
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Wasnt Yu killed in Full Circle, it sort of implied that to me, so I dont understant that whole how they live when they get blown up, same with Apophis and a lot of others. But hey you never know, maybe Ra will come back, wouldnt that be interesting
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Ra back...dont think that would happen, but I hope they keep Jonus around as I think he is a good fella, and shouldnt have to forfit his place in the team just becuase DJ turns back up. Why do so many of you hate Jonus? Jonus and DJ playing off one another would be good to see. 5 members of the team I say, or maybe a rotating team. Different one for each situation. blink.gif
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Jonas and Daniel will be friends.
In "Meridian", where Jonas debuts, Jack was talking about how Daniel and Jonas were in Nerd Heaven. I thought it was funny. I'm more of a Jack O'Neill rather than a Daniel Jackson if you know what I mean.
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post Mar 28th 2003, 3:36 PM
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A bunch of motherships blew up but Yu retreated.
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post Mar 31st 2003, 9:12 PM
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Ra will not come back , but that would be interesting. Yu did retreat at the end of Full Circle. He was SCARED!!!

I really like Daniel, but I also like Jack. He is soooo funny. Jonas really wanted to fit in and I think he did in his own way, But it will never take the place of the relationship that Jack and Danial had. great on screen chemistry.


I really hope this is not the last seaons of SG-1. One more would be nice..

I wonder what will happen in the first ep, yes Daniel with no memory and all, what will Jack say?
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post Apr 1st 2003, 6:05 PM
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I've had a odd feeling about Yu(that sounds so corny! wink.gif ) but to me he's either

1) An undecover tok'ra i.e a longterm sleeper
2) A Goa'uld who has strong reservations about being a typical Goa'uld

and we have been told don't forget that "very few Goa'uld came over to the tok'ra's side" when the whole tok'ra vs Goa'uld tat kicked off.... maybe we have another candidate? ph34r.gif

that lift scene with Jack/Daniel in Full Circle was a classic laugh.gif
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post Apr 3rd 2003, 12:06 AM
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FYI

When Daniel looses his memory after descending paralells with another show...Angel when Cordy ascended as a higher being then descended and had no idea who she was...

anywho thats my penny and a half

Jason <Thor's Brother>
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post Apr 3rd 2003, 11:37 AM
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Well it should be interesting at the least.


Is Michael going to be totally NUDE? poor guy.
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