Episode 5 - Suspicion
Air Date: (US) August 6, 2004

After another dangerous run-in with the new enemy, the Wraith, the team suspects a traitor in their midst

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Ooo not a bad episode.

I need someone to adapt the phrase "Loose Lips, Sink Ships" to this Atlantis episode for me...consider it a challenge.

I'm still enjoying Atlantis
thus far

Spooky ending...I hope that Fu Man Chu Wraith can back it up.

This week's episode was much better than last week!!

I liked it. Interesting story, and interesting twist.

The best part was at the end, with the Wraith officer inprisoned.

"We are unable to maintain your dietary needs."

LOL! Sounds very much like an O'Neill moment.

Yeah, this episode was much better than last week. I am really starting to hate Dr. Weir, though. She annoys me to no end. They way she treated the Athosians was really disrespectful. She was much too easily swayed by that security guy - and he definately had a stick up his butt.

Oh well, at least we got to see more of Teyla, and now they've got a captured Wraith - that should lead to some interesting plot lines.

I liked Sheppard's "be positive, now" line at the end. Nice touch. The "dietary needs" bit was good, too - very O'Neill-esque.

Yeah it had alot of loose ends and left open mistakes. but overall I liked it could have been a bit better with what they plotted out if they thought longer on it. The hippy wraith is quite the bastard it appears......I wonder if he would like a turkey sandwich.

I completely agree. She's supposed to be a great diplomat, but in every diplomatic situation she ... well, hasn't been.

Dr. Weir was driving me nuts too, and I was hoping Teyla or someone would beat up the security sergent guy.
I really did like the episode though and I wonder what they'll do now that they found land on "Atlantica". (Ya gotta like Lt. Ford)

Was there a specific reason to capture the wraith or did we just want one, not that he may not come in handy but I was wondering if I missed something.

I liked last weeks episode better, but it wasn't awful. NOW Dr Weir is getting annoying a little. I cant believe she didnt say anything when the security guy kept making things worse with the athosian man. SHe should have had the balls and said something to shut him up. Good that SHeppard does so eventually. THere is always a lot of good and people-you-wanna-slap characters in Atlantis and thats what makes this show more interesting.

And I think I am liking Dr Mckay, but its funny because hes getting physically hurt. I cant believe Ive been turned around since "48 hours."

Oh boy did they just get themselves into a whole lotta mess. What if he has a hidden transmitter and the Wraith find Atlantis?

Oh, I forgot to mention, I thought it was weird that it's only the 5th episode/4th week of Atlantis and they are already doing "Previously on ...". I see the need for "Previously on ..." more for episodes far part, like in different seasons.

This post has been edited by Reignfire: Aug 7th 2004, 12:44 AM

An interesting episode, but this week Stargate beat Atlantis.

Weir really sucks. I was beginning to hope that Teyla was a betrayer just so some Wraith would come and blow Weirs head off! Shes supposed to be this great diplomat, however she isn't very diplomatic at all with anybody.

We FINALLY get to see a few more Wraith, and it even speaks! That was great.

However...it just didn't seem like much happend. It didn't involve interacting with another new culture, we didn't even explore a new world....Right when I heard Weir say that shes suspending gate operations, I knew that Stargate instantly won this round.

Your in a new GALAXY for Allahs sake! Let's see some exploring being done, instead of just sitting on Atlantis all the time.

This episode was okay. Much better than last week's though. Now that they have a wraith to experiment on, I can't wait to see what new types of weapons they will develop.

That's what I was thinking. Ok, you are on a new planet and you have just discovered that you inadvertently had a transmitter on one of your allies and now you capture an enemy. I'm thinking that could be a bad idea

Are you thinking that maybe he was supposed to be captured cuz if so why would he try and blow himself up.

But i liked this episode a little more than the ep of SG1 but both were very good in my book.

I liked this episode, we finally saw Teyla in action which was really cool, however I now have to agree that Dr Weir is kind of becoming less and less diplomatic with each episode. But then again it is said that criminal lawyers make terrible judges so it might be the same for diplomats turned leaders, we shall see...
I wonder where the writers want to go with this Weir business anyway...
I think maybe they wanted her to look tougher, because some complained she might be a wimp.

Dr Weir could still change. Look at Gen. Hammond. He has rough the 1st two episodes of SG1. He wouldn't give in to anything (I didn't like him at first). And later became a near-like teddy bear to sg1 (well maybe not quite). Put can truely see the differents after the 1s few episodes.








This post has been edited by NRJ: Aug 7th 2004, 4:54 PM

Weir is a b*tch. She needs to get some serious tension released or something. Maybe she should let Ford give her few pointers on how to actually smile at people once and a while and chill out. If I were on the station I would stay far away from her Nazi Weir. You'd think she was military with the way they portray her.

I'm glad the Athosians left, they were not really happy there. Isn't it ironic that the guy who we kept hating this whole episode basically saved the day when he demanded McKay search thru Tey'las stuff ? He didn't even get a thank you did he ?

Sheppard is letting his personal feelings for Tey'la interfere with getting his job done. Sure, there was no true "spy" in their midst, but she could have been mind controlled, or perhaps misled by someone. That happened more than once to SG-1, but then again, he is still new to all of this I suppose. I look forward to his growth as a character.

McKay is my favorite character now. When he demanded to go back for Ford and Tey'la, I was impressed. He isn't a total coward after all. Plus his usual quips are very, very funny. He totally dissed that guy with the "imagination failure" comment

I was very disappointed to see the Wraith talking at the end, and on top of that, throwing out a bunch of cliche's like some cheesy Transformers bad guy (hey, I loved that show though). Up to this point, only the Queen had actually spoken with anyone, and I was hoping she was the exception. I'm sorry, but having them speak English totally takes away the "alien" mirage for me, man. It would have been better if he just hissed and used illusions to talk imo.

All in all, a good episode i think, and I think the character development is going well for a few characters.

I didnt think it was as good as earlier episodes. But it wasnt bad, About DR.WEIR i dont like her that much but not because how she treated those ashosians or however u spell, because for security reasons i agreed with it, i mean comeon u cant trust no one, for all they know one of them could of been brain washed or something.

One thing that just comes to mind, the ashosians are human right? well how did they get there because the Ancients didnt take them there else they would be ancients. Im probably missing something

Chris

I didn read the rest of this thread but i jus wanted to say when mckay is talkin about the planets mainland size and tries to compare and cant think, its brilliant ... makes him seem almost human

She is irritating me to no end! She just grates on my nerves. She is not becoming an interesting character in anyway. The way she was swayed by that security guy bugged the heck out of me. That security guy should have made all kinds of apologies to Teyla and her people, but of course, he didn't.

So what is the purpose of holding that Wraith guy? They have him, in a brig of some sorts, but what do they intend to do with him? Are they going to experiment? I didn't understand the purpose in capturing him.

I will admit that for the first time, I did enjoy Teyla. They kind of fleshed out her character. I guess having this situation with her people was a way to get them out of Atlantis so that we just see her on away missions with an SGA team. It was a nice touch to find out that there were devices that would seek out ancients. I guess they should be aware that there might be more.

Man, I must be the only one who doesn't mind Weir... I must be a Weir-do AH AH Ah AH AAAAh ... no

Without going into any details, because I don't feel like it, (If I must I will), she seems to handle problems with a genuine concern for every party, taking in all suggestions, and not just acting from one perspective, and acting in the interest of the best outcome of a situation. Also she is well spoken. Unfortunately this makes her seem a tad hesitant and indecisive. Certainly not as quick as Hammond, but I think that's his military training and personality kicking in.

I dunno...definitely not "grating" to me. I'd hate to have all these other-worldy decisions heaped upon me, day after day after day.

Which leads me to another question...
How long is a day on the unnamed planet Atlantis resides on?

What is strange is that I liked Weir on the first show on SG1's season premiere. I was wondering if I could handle the change in actresses, but she was great. She didn't bother me at all. It has only been since she has been in charge of Atlantis that she has not appealed.

You're not the only one here with those thoughts

Dr Weir is such a turn on!!!
Teyla couldn't have said it any better at the end, that she would've done the same thing had she been in Weir's position.

When the security officer questioned Major Sheppard on his emotions, of course Dr Weir didn't want to say anything because she wanted to see and hear his reaction/response to confirm at least some of his feelings towards Teyla. Isn't it obvious that Dr Weir has a thing for Major Sheppard?

Well that's my two cents.
So yeah, I'm still an avid Atlantis fan!!!

I liked this week's episode a little better than last week. The one thing that really bugged me is how stupid the team was coming back to Atlantis in the beginning. Did you guys notice how the team ran through the Stargate back to Talantis, only to stand right in front of the gate and stop to look back? McKay was asbolutely asking to be shot in the head!

Ford was disappointingly a wimp when Sheppard's description of what heavy gravitational pull could do to the human body. Come on, Ford is a soldier and has been through military training. Surely he knows what excessive G-force can do to a person. For him to give up the "snack" was just a poor attempt at humor.

I was disappointed that we didn't get to see a single shot of the land on Atlantis. Sure, we hears that some surfing might be in the works in the future but how about a shot of mountains or lush jungle?

I saw a few folks commenting that Sheppard's comments and quips in the show were quite "O'Neill". I agree. The writers should give Sheppard his own personality - not a O'Neill clone.

Finally, I thought the lead Wriath that eventually got captured wasn't very smart. The moment he picked up the locket/homing device, he should have realized that he was ina trap. Well, maybe that's just me, or maybe the Wraith really are thick in the head

TauJin