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Episode 217 - "Coup D'Etat", Spoilers

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JamesyBHOY	Aug 23rd 2005, 9:48 AM Post #1
First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: March 9th 2005 From: Glasgow, Scotland Member No.: 8,385 Gender: Male	Coup 'D'etat' is currently scheduled to be Episode 18 of the new season. Click for Spoiler QUOTE Colonel John Sheppard and his team are called off-world and arrive on a planet where Dr. Peel, a member of the Atlantis expedition, leads them hurriedly down a long alley. She was with Major Lorne's team, and when a routine mission to make contact with the seemingly friendly locals went bad he ordered her to return to the gate and call for backup. Upon returning to the home they were visiting for tea with the locals, Peel sees that it has been incinerated. Details are sketchy, but it appears as though Major Lorne and his team have been captured -- by the Genii. Peel had heard what sounded like Wraith blasts, but she can't be sure. Back on Atlantis, Dr. Weir is paid a visit by Ladon (Ryan Robbins), the young Genii officer who helped a Genii strike force capture the Ancient city more than a year ago ("The Storm" / "The Eye"). Weir wants a Zero Point Module from him -- and it could be Atlantis's own. Ladon wants to negotiate a trade for supplies. Later, Ladon sends a team of 12 emmissaries to Atlantis for negotiations, including his own sister, Dahlia Radim. She is only in her 20s, but it soon becomes clear that she is dying. Dr. Beckett tries his best to help but Dahlia is less than cooperative, still regarding the expedition as her enemy and preferring to die in the course of doing her duty, to ensure that her family and friends have a home. On planet M6R-867 Sheppard leads a strike force, possibly in an attempt to rescue Lorne and his team or to recover the Z.P.M. But he is captured, and again comes face-to-face with Ladon and the leader of the Genii, Cowen (Colm Meaney). There Sheppard learns that the Genii are attempting to seize control of a fleet of Puddle Jumpers, still intent on attacking Wraith hive ships with their nuclear weapons -- a strategy for suicide missions that they learned from Dr. Weir herself ("The Siege, Part 2"). Guest characters include Cowen (Star Trek's Colm Meaney will presumably reprise his role), Dahlia Radim, Dr. Peel, Ladon, a technician, and a security team member. "Coup D'etat" is expected to go before cameras next month as the eighteenth episode in Atlantis's production order. It will air early in 2006 in the U.S.

Stargate Master	Aug 23rd 2005, 12:01 PM Post #2
Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: June 3rd 2004 From: County Durham, England, UK Member No.: 5,193 Gender: Male	This episode sounds great. Can't wait to see the Genii again. Looks like Major Lorne has stayed which is good!!

Dafmeister	Aug 23rd 2005, 1:33 PM Post #3
General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male	Click for Spoiler How are the Genii going to pilot the Puddle Jumpers? Do they have the Ancient gene?

OneLoneFan	Aug 24th 2005, 8:04 AM Post #4
Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: March 25th 2004 Member No.: 4,568 Gender: Male	QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Aug 23rd 2005, 1:33 PM) Click for Spoiler How are the Genii going to pilot the Puddle Jumpers? Do they have the Ancient gene? The Genii's tech is like70 years behind our own...except for maybe thier guns...so i wouldn't concider them "big thinkers"...what they have is a general plan of action...but they have no real idea on how to pull it off!

JamesyBHOY	Aug 24th 2005, 8:49 AM Post #5
First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: March 9th 2005 From: Glasgow, Scotland Member No.: 8,385 Gender: Male	QUOTE Click for Spoiler How are the Genii going to pilot the Puddle Jumpers? Do they have the Ancient gene? It's not been revealed yet, but if the Ancients seeded life then some members of their race also must have it. Of course it's possible that they somehow find out about Beckett & his being able to artificically impose it on people. Maybe they want a piece of the action. For the ZPM that seriously can't be the one that's currently being used in Atlantis. My guess is that it's the one from 'The Brotherhood', they were after that & also had spies on the planet. So it's possible that they found out the location & went there & managed to steal it. The PJ's are probably ones that they want to take from Atlantis in exchange for the hostages. Can't see them giving them to the Genii though. They could have all this cleared up in a jiffy though. However if they did then there'd be no episode. I bet they have Daedalus back in the MW on another supply run. They could simply have sent her over & beamed everything up. One thing that gets me though, it these are supposed to be highly trained soldiers. So how can they managed to get captured. They were supposed to be a strike force sent in to rescue their comrades. Yet end up managing to be captured themselves by an inferior species. It's times like this that you wonder where all the Navy seals & Delta Force are being hidden.

SyStEm_LoRd	Aug 25th 2005, 1:31 AM Post #6
Major Group: Members Posts: 1,208 Joined: February 5th 2003 From: Australia, Whyalla, SA Member No.: 552 Gender: Male	alantis knows about the genii under ground base.. if they are so much of a pain in the ass send dealalus to clean up and just kick the crap outta the annoying genii

unseen_shadow	Sep 8th 2005, 5:58 PM Post #7
Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: March 6th 2005 Member No.: 8,346 Gender: Not Telling	well when the genii took over Atlantis they some how figured out what they were doing faster the original Atlantis team, so maybe they stole some info from the ancient data base; they did it with the hive ship. Combine that with their impressive ability to gain intell and they might be able to pull it off.

Auntie Em!	Nov 2nd 2005, 10:31 PM Post #8
Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female	Here are some pics of this episode that I found online.

Stargate Master	Nov 4th 2005, 2:28 PM Post #9
Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: June 3rd 2004 From: County Durham, England, UK Member No.: 5,193 Gender: Male	Thanks for pictures Em! Lookin good for this episode!

mini_jack	Nov 4th 2005, 4:14 PM Post #10
Second Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 520 Joined: February 1st 2005 From: uk Member No.: 7,835 Gender: Male	nice pics can't wait for the episode. when it is shown early next year.

kordone	Nov 24th 2005, 3:25 AM Post #11
Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 233 Joined: November 24th 2005 From: Sydney Member No.: 10,555 Gender: Male	QUOTE alantis knows about the genii under ground base.. if they are so much of a pain in the ass send dealalus to clean up and just kick the crap outta the annoying genii If they were really annoyed with the Genii... they should just put Teyla's pendent in their 'secret underground base'... wait for the Wraith... then watch the fun from some puddle jumpers cloaked form a safe distance

penno2005	Dec 15th 2005, 11:14 AM Post #12
Airman Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: March 9th 2005 Member No.: 8,371 Gender: Male	QUOTE(kordone @ Nov 24th 2005, 3:25 AM) If they were really annoyed with the Genii... they should just put Teyla's pendent in their 'secret underground base'... wait for the Wraith... then watch the fun from some puddle jumpers cloaked form a safe distance :lol: Good idea lol or just chuck some C4 and cave in the under ground base and squash them like inferia bugs that they are lol

Weiland	Dec 20th 2005, 11:00 AM Post #13
Civilian Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: December 20th 2005 Member No.: 10,701 Gender: Male	Why bother with C4??? Use the Daedalus to put a nuke in their asses. Or use it to beam out all their brains!! :)

kennykiller	Dec 27th 2005, 12:23 PM Post #14
Civilian Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: September 17th 2005 Member No.: 10,176 Gender: Male	sorry Weiland that would only work if the genii HAD brains. Jeez, ive hated these guys since we first laid eyes on them. It was a good idea to have Colm Meaney cast as their leader though, it was an interestin opportunity to see him in a slightly more sinister role than in TNG. Anyway, you'd think Weir would just authorise the dedalous(SP) to use every adantage they have to obliterate the Genii's plans. EG, beam in/out, nuke them, etc. Or maybe get a fix on the attcking soldiers and beam them in front of their families as theyre about to shoot. Just a thought.... EDIT: Or perhaps send sheppard in a cloaked puddle jumper right into their city and start blowin up their factories and all that. This post has been edited by kennykiller: Dec 27th 2005, 12:25 PM

Auntie Em!	Dec 28th 2005, 7:07 AM Post #15
Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female	QUOTE(kennykiller @ Dec 27th 2005, 12:23 PM) Anyway, you'd think Weir would just authorise the dedalous(SP) to use every adantage they have to obliterate the Genii's plans. EG, beam in/out, nuke them, etc. Or maybe get a fix on the attcking soldiers and beam them in front of their families as theyre about to shoot. Just a thought.... WTF? Beam innocent people in front of the men as they fire? First off that is a dumbass, fued up ideal. Second of all it is an illegal order and no sane person would follow it. If they could beam the family members in why not just beam the attack soldiers into space? This post has been edited by Auntie Em!**: Dec 28th 2005, 7:09 AM

IndyJan	Jan 2nd 2006, 12:56 AM Post #16
Lieutenant General Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female	This looks good. I said during season 1 that the Genii had the potential to be a very good "bad" guy, or if Weir's people could make them, a good ally. I love the Major Lorne is still around. Now here is someone that is second in command to Sheppard, just as Ford was, but he's not a boring character. I love Lorne.

tfwarlord	Jan 5th 2006, 3:01 PM Post #17
Civilian Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: April 14th 2004 Member No.: 4,816 Gender: Not Telling	mispost This post has been edited by tfwarlord: Jan 5th 2006, 3:03 PM

Weiland	Jan 9th 2006, 9:34 PM Post #18
Civilian Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: December 20th 2005 Member No.: 10,701 Gender: Male	Correction, LT. Ford was NOT second in command to MAJOR Shepard. There were other Majors and captains in the expedition.

OneLoneFan	Jan 10th 2006, 6:56 AM Post #19
Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: March 25th 2004 Member No.: 4,568 Gender: Male	I dunno about that....I don't recall anyone else during season 1 being refered to as Major or Captain....plus Lt. Ford was always Sheppard's go-to man

Dafmeister	Jan 10th 2006, 7:21 AM Post #20
General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male	In season 1, Ford was the next ranking officer. That doesnt seem correct though IMO. Originally Sheppard wasnt going to go through the gate, that means Colonel Sumner's next highest ranking officer would have been Lt Ford. Surely that is not realistic? Sumner must have had other officers in his team. In 'The Seige' more officers came through with Everett (Major Lorne and a Captain) and others arrived with Daedalus (Lt Cadman).

IndyJan	Jan 12th 2006, 7:33 PM Post #21
Lieutenant General Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female	I agree that Ford was Sheppard's second in command. I also agree that if Sheppard hadn't gone, Ford would have been Sumner's second in command. That makes no sense. I'm thinking, and I don't have the means to look (don't have the dvds), that some of the military people were killed during the attack that took Sumner. Maybe some of them were Captains, Majors, etc. They now have other military men that came with Caldwell also.

gen.	Feb 13th 2006, 11:02 PM Post #22
Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: February 11th 2006 Member No.: 11,162 Gender: Male	I think there were some other members killed in the problems they first had and did Shepoard replaced another major?

Dafmeister	Feb 14th 2006, 5:36 AM Post #23
General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male	QUOTE(gen. @ Feb 14th 2006, 4:02 AM) did Shepoard replaced another major? No. Weir wanted him on the expedition because he had a strong Ancient gene.

dr lee	Feb 14th 2006, 2:46 PM Post #24
Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,342 Joined: February 16th 2005 From: england Member No.: 8,109 Gender: Male	My apologies for going slightly off topic here, and doing it so stupidly, but i've just realised today that Major Lorne was in Enemy Mine. I hadn't realised that before. Anyway to go back on topic throughout S1 i thought that bates was the second in command of atlantis' military componant and that LT ford was the second in command of the team.

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