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| Aussie_Bloke |
 Nov 24th 2005, 9:16 PM
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First Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 700 Joined: December 16th 2004 From: Melbourne,Vic,Aus,Earth,Solar System,Milky Way Member No.: 7,259 Gender: Male  |
Transcripts are pretty much how i survive in the Stargate world as we wait for the remainder os season 1 of atlantis back in Australia....
Try yahoo groups 'Stargate transcripts' - they have it done allready! You might have to become a member to read it tho.... |
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| Krystian SG1 |
Nov 25th 2005, 10:07 PM
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Staff Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: November 3rd 2004 From: Chicago Member No.: 6,863 Gender: Male |
This was a nice episode. Loved it when the hives started to fire on each other. I was kind of hoping that Shepperd would fly the Dart into the Atlantis gateroom. I would have loved to see the reaction on everyones face in the gateroom when a dart flies in.
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| anja |
Nov 25th 2005, 11:13 PM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: November 3rd 2004 From: Norway Member No.: 6,860 Gender: Female |
Fantastic episode!
QUOTE(hobo_joe20 @ Nov 23rd 2005, 2:48 AM) Fantastic episode! Mackay and his rants - fabulous. I loved his rants when he was trying to dial back to Atlantis ... all alone in the field just yelling at the air. Fantastic. I believe it's "bow". The four sides are: Front - bow Back - stern Starboard - left Port - right (this and starboard may be mixed up, but im fairly confident i have them right)  Starboard has to be the same as Styrbord (norwegian) and it is right. (?styr? is too steer or maneuver and most people use the right hand... easy too remember. and bord is a board too sit on when you steer. It?s a Viking word. And you lay your boat too port on the left side?so portside?  Fantastic episode! clowns in VW hehe |
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| Cons |
Nov 27th 2005, 2:28 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: August 14th 2005 Member No.: 9,860 Gender: Male |
heres a screen shot of the space battle
http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php...48entry353484 go to my post |
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| ted_simple |
Nov 27th 2005, 5:27 PM
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SIR Ted Simple  Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: January 8th 2004 From: Take an educated guess Member No.: 3,194 Gender: Male |
"Ah yes the Clowns... we keep fighting them... entire armies, we try to fight them off, but --- *sighs* they keep sending them in...."
I still want an explanation why the queen couldn't use her mental abilities for interrogation as the other one did with Col. Sumner. This post has been edited by ted_simple: Nov 27th 2005, 5:35 PM |
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| Auntie Em! |
Nov 27th 2005, 7:57 PM
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Sipping on fine wine!  Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
Maybe because Sheppard is descended from an ancient. Maybe his strong genes effect how the Wraith use their mental abilities.
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| dr_n_tesla |
Nov 27th 2005, 8:47 PM
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Senior Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 390 Joined: May 6th 2003 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 1,522 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(ted_simple @ Nov 28th 2005, 9:27 AM) I still want an explanation why the queen couldn't use her mental abilities for interrogation as the other one did with Col. Sumner. She still forced him to kneel down. As for interrogating him, she didn't get the chance as the other queen had arrived. |
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| Yamarin |
Nov 28th 2005, 11:19 PM
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Airman Basic  Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: August 5th 2005 Member No.: 9,774 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Nov 24th 2005, 5:00 PM) I have seen the landing and no they do not land on the water. Look at the picture they are quite clearly landing on the landing pad with the water just to the side. The down wash of the ships thrusters would agitate the sea water. I do not know if any of you have been near a helicopter landing but it can throw sand and dust for a 100 meters in every direction. Well I've seen it a coupple a times now, and unless I need stronger glasses than the ones I'm already using the D is landing IN water....You can clearly see the water the ship ending up partly submerged in the water as it lands...ending up being more of an actual ship  Btw if this is the way they land all the time you would expect to see a layer of algea forming on the lower part of the D...now that would be sweet  |
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| Auntie Em! |
Nov 28th 2005, 11:59 PM
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Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
No what you are thinking is water is actually the heat waves from the landing thrusters. Ever look down at the horizon of a road surface on a hot summer day? Also why would they land on the water when the Atlantis has landing pads? What proof do you have that the big D has that ability?
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| Yamarin |
Nov 29th 2005, 8:21 PM
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Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: August 5th 2005 Member No.: 9,774 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Nov 29th 2005, 5:59 PM) No what you are thinking is water is actually the heat waves from the landing thrusters. Ever look down at the horizon of a road surface on a hot summer day? Also why would they land on the water when the Atlantis has landing pads? What proof do you have that the big D has that ability? Yes I know what fata morgana is...warm air rising forming a shimmering above the heated surface... However what I am referring to is the waterline you get on a ship/boat...You can try yourself and stick something resembling a boat in a tub of water...as it is partially submerged the water forms a line along the "hull" of your object, as you submerge it furhter this line rises further up the hull...Now that is what I see in the lower part of the picture when viewing the scene...Maybe your tv doesn't show the lower part or something so it looks like its landing on the dock, or maybe the two videoclips are different I don't know, however I know what I see... |
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| Auntie Em! |
Nov 30th 2005, 12:36 AM
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Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
Look at the 3O'clock docking port for the F 302's. That is clearly over the landing pad. The ship has not fully landed and that is why you see the water below the ship but above landing pad. The shimmer is the thrusters. (the yellow below the haul.
Look at a picture of Atlantis as a whole. It is almost completely surrounded with landing areas. |
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| Yamarin |
Nov 30th 2005, 3:15 AM
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Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: August 5th 2005 Member No.: 9,774 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Nov 30th 2005, 6:36 PM) Look at the 3O'clock docking port for the F 302's. That is clearly over the landing pad. The ship has not fully landed and that is why you see the water below the ship but above landing pad. The shimmer is the thrusters. (the yellow below the haul. Look at a picture of Atlantis as a whole. It is almost completely surrounded with landing areas. Here you clearly see the water beneath the ship, which is NOT fully landed as you said, and you can see the shimmer from the thrusters... AND here you see the D partially submerged...I've drawn a small red line where the bottom of the fron section is below the water...its just a little bit though...seems like she's a bit light Finally figured how to capture images from mediaplayer...this need to be set for print screen to work: 1. In Windows Media Player, on the Tools menu, click Options, and then click the Performance tab. 2. Click the Advanced button. 3. In the Video Acceleration area, clear the Use overlays check box. This post has been edited by Yamarin: Nov 30th 2005, 3:21 AM |
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| Auntie Em! |
Nov 30th 2005, 3:55 AM
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Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
We could argue this forever. I still disagree with you and you disagree with me. However, your last picture proves my point. Look at the landing bay on the left. It is clearly and absolutely over the landing pad. The part you are saying is in the water is only being obscured by the heat. The CGI guys just did it a little funny.
Why on earth would the Big D land in water? There are tons of landing pads on Atlantis. This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Nov 30th 2005, 3:58 AM |
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| Yamarin |
Nov 30th 2005, 4:39 AM
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Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: August 5th 2005 Member No.: 9,774 Gender: Male |
Guess we're not
if you are right, where is the landing gear, not visible in any sequence...then again I guess it could be just howering, however you can hear the landing thrusters slowing down in the sequence, so it must be some kind of energyshield holding it above the dock cause it's clearly not in contact with the dock...and that makes even less sence if it was as it would waste a lot of energy to contain...and what do you mean tons of landing pads...? and a good reason not to land on atlantis itself might be that ...1 it makes barking and disembarking easier...2 it leaves space on the dock for cargo loading and unloading...3. loading cargo from an even level is much more efficient than from underneath and up, even if D might have a ramp...you would still have to drive the cargo up it...(why not use the transport beam?) remember the beams have restricted working angles, and thus D might have to lift of to be able to get enough distance to use them...and again energy efficiency)... I could probably go on thinking up more reasons, however I see no point. might as well leave it at we agree to disagree...untill we see some evidence suggesting anything else... |
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| Pitry |
Dec 2nd 2005, 9:35 AM
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Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,785 Joined: February 19th 2003 From: Israel Member No.: 745 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(ted_simple @ Nov 28th 2005, 12:27 AM) "Ah yes the Clowns... we keep fighting them... entire armies, we try to fight them off, but --- *sighs* they keep sending them in...." :D I still want an explanation why the queen couldn't use her mental abilities for interrogation as the other one did with Col. Sumner. Cos then we won't be able to shudder at the mention of... the clowns!!!! *amused* yup, much much better than part 1! Finally. I'm pretty pleased with the fact they didn't brush off completely the drug bit... McKay on drugs. Now that's a reason to be scared for life. *snigger* The Wraith do indeed seem to be dumber than we - well, were supposed to think, I guess, I never thought much of their intelligence. But, pah, I thought we're gonna learn substential parts about the Wraith civilisation! Well, one can only hope. Pretty sure Ford isn't dead. Best of SG1 tradition, they're not dead til you see the body! hehe. *runs away from the horrible clowns* EDIT: oh, and Sheppard's look when Ronon got that knife... the utter "what am I doing here and who are these people?!" look... that was priceless... *runs away from the clowns again* This post has been edited by Pitry: Dec 2nd 2005, 4:25 PM |
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| Ben64 |
Dec 2nd 2005, 11:04 AM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: February 21st 2003 From: Dallas, Tx Member No.: 794 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Aussie_Bloke @ Nov 23rd 2005, 6:50 PM) Any screenshots from the CGI space battle? Sure, in HD even  HD Atlantis shots |
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| Auntie Em! |
Dec 2nd 2005, 3:18 PM
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Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
Ben very nice screenshots. Thanks. Also welcome back. You must lurk most of the time eh? Good to see you posting.
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| Otaku_Smeghead |
Dec 6th 2005, 9:10 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: December 10th 2003 Member No.: 2,911 Gender: Male |
One thing I dont get is.. When Rodney is back in Atlantis in the Infimery... he yelling at Becket that He doesnt know what he is going through withdraw .. and Carson says he has some idea. what that all about ?
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| Ilzy |
Dec 9th 2005, 3:20 PM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: March 2nd 2005 From: Latvia Member No.: 8,299 Gender: Female |
IMO this was a pretty good episode, an 8/10 if I had to rate it. The only bad part about it all - I found out that Atlantis is airing already only last week. Can you believe it?
 Might think that I don't spend enough time here lately... Am I the only one who noticed that the Wraith start to sound more and more Goa'uld-like lately? Now we find out that they have people who worship them + the inner power struggles between the Wraith "mother-bees" do ring some bells! The one thing I didn't completely get - how could Sheppard could have been so sure that the girl was working for the enemy? Suspicion yes, but why such confidence? And yes - McKay was simply perfect!  My favourite guy in the team! |
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| Carter-Hot |
Dec 19th 2005, 10:23 AM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 995 Joined: December 26th 2003 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 3,067 Gender: Male |
Just saw this episode and it is brilliantly written.
A very nice conclusion to the "The Lost Boys". McKay character was totally hilarious! And like Ilzy, I too thought that at the mid point, the Wraith were beginning to sound like the Goa'uld. I too knew that girl was an "agent", you could just tell. All in all 9/10! |
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| Esolece |
Dec 21st 2005, 8:45 PM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: October 18th 2004 Member No.: 6,731 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Nov 30th 2005, 3:55 AM) We could argue this forever. I still disagree with you and you disagree with me. However, your last picture proves my point. Look at the landing bay on the left. It is clearly and absolutely over the landing pad. The part you are saying is in the water is only being obscured by the heat. The CGI guys just did it a little funny. Why on earth would the Big D land in water? There are tons of landing pads on Atlantis. Well it depends on the system they used for water. If the used a system where photons were absorbed by the water then you are correct and they messed up. If they don't then it is actually landing on the water the nose atleast. IMO they are landing half and half as part of the ship does disappear and that would happen if they used any form of water and the collisions were on as they'd develop the 'crest' as it hit the hull. My professional opinion atleast:) |
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| Havoc208 |
Dec 30th 2005, 1:02 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: December 30th 2005 Member No.: 10,765 Gender: Male |
Actually, the ship is landing in the water.
Note the light post on the edge of the city: You can tell that the "Big D" is lower then the light post and on the water side of it. The clowns...  Also, Caldwell says "Foward" not "Bow". This post has been edited by Havoc208: Dec 30th 2005, 1:04 AM |
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| Malika |
 Dec 31st 2005, 5:50 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: December 29th 2005 From: Scotland, United Kingdom Member No.: 10,760 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Otaku_Smeghead @ Dec 7th 2005, 2:10 AM) One thing I dont get is.. When Rodney is back in Atlantis in the Infimery... he yelling at Becket that He doesnt know what he is going through withdraw .. and Carson says he has some idea. what that all about ? I'm not sure but maybe the writers wanted something to draw back on from Beckett as we don't know all that much about his past, it's possible that one of his family members went through it because we know he's very close to his mum (Letters from Pegasus + Rising Part 1) maybe thats the reason . Oh well just a thought.  Also McKay, priceless performance in his sceens. Good on him!  Definately one of my fav characters in both Stargate shows (exept the first one he was in - 48 Hours, his personality sucked in that EP!) |
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| Sighfienerd |
Jan 6th 2006, 11:08 PM
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Beyond here there be dragons  Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Malika @ Dec 31st 2005, 5:50 PM) Also McKay, priceless performance in his sceens. Good on him! Oh McKay...you are a gem. Where would Atlantis be without you? The scene with him trying to dial out on the DHD hopped up on Wraith enzyme had me rolling on the floor. I'm wondering if Shepherd is able to block the queen's telepathy to some extent because of his Wraith metamorphosis experience? Individual Wraiths must be able to turn off communication at will or they'd simply be bombarded with too much extrasensory information. The clown business and the send up of the Judy Collins song was cute. Everybody hates clowns! |
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