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| Alosel |
Mar 25th 2006, 3:32 AM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 701 Joined: March 30th 2005 From: Llanelli, Wales Member No.: 8,667 Gender: Male |
I wasn't sure whether to put this in here or the Tech section, but this about tech, but is also speculation. Anywho.
Oh, and I did do a search Right, in Aurora it is revealed to us that the Wraith have a serious weakness in their technology which they were sending to the Council to exploit and give them a serious advantage. In Allies, we learn that Wraith technology is Organic. Could this be the weakness? I was thinking in Star Trek:Voyager - they have gel packs with are both organic and technological, and Neelix managed to bring the ship to a standstill by making cheese, which spread bacteria to the packs, and make them 'ill'. Could this strategy be used against the Wraith? If the ships and technology are organic, then they may well be suseptable to biological viruses, bacteria etc. or something to that regard. Views? |
| Dafmeister |
Mar 25th 2006, 8:30 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
Chances are that TPTB are just opening possible avenues for future stories. They probably havent decided what that weakness is yet and wont for a while.
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| ALIEN_JL |
Mar 25th 2006, 9:12 AM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 936 Joined: January 14th 2004 Member No.: 3,244 Gender: Male |
Or it could be that there was no weakness... (I mean maybe Aurora's crew never found any... Maybe
Aurora's true mission had nothing to do with what those Ancients believed in the virtual reality. Maybe that was all part of the Wraiths plot... The Wraith manipulated them to believe that they had important information they needed to get to Atlantis so that she would get them to modify the ships hyperdrive) And the Ancients didn't lack in fire power or defencive capability or any technological area... Some info about some weakness in Wraith technology which would make it easier to destroy their ships wouldn't have made any difference... |
| GoVols |
Mar 26th 2006, 3:34 AM
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Senior Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 375 Joined: March 25th 2006 From: Knoxvegas Tennessee Member No.: 11,546 Gender: Male |
I too had that thought the other day, but disuaded my self from elaborating further on it by simply thinking that it was a waste of my time because im not a writer for this show. However seeing your post reignited my thinking, and wouldnt it be cool if we attached a microwave emmiter to our ships that could effectivly cook the Wraith ships?
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| Alosel |
Mar 31st 2006, 9:11 AM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 701 Joined: March 30th 2005 From: Llanelli, Wales Member No.: 8,667 Gender: Male |
Yes! Instead of destroying their ships, we could just 'kill' them!
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| GoVols |
Apr 1st 2006, 5:21 PM
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Senior Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 375 Joined: March 25th 2006 From: Knoxvegas Tennessee Member No.: 11,546 Gender: Male |
Perhaps we could build our own bio ship, and put a disease in it, something like bubonic plague or ebola. It kills fast and infects their ships, assuming they are suseptable to such measures.
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| Dafmeister |
Apr 1st 2006, 6:17 PM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
assuming they are suseptable to such measures. Given that Hive ships are partly organic, they would have to be extremely resistant to anything that they could encounter. Plus the fact that they areonly partially organi would mean there is the chance the ships would survive anyway. |
| JTMAG1 |
May 17th 2006, 1:28 PM
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The Last Shogun Group: Members Posts: 3,889 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Long Beach, CA USA Member No.: 6,251 Gender: Male |
In ep 2x20 allies, McKay is on the wraith ship, the wraith that's with him brings up the fact the the ship being partially organic does create problems. I believe he says something about it being hard to program the ship to do new things, and its hard to bypass the systems.
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| OneLoneFan |
May 17th 2006, 4:42 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: March 25th 2004 Member No.: 4,568 Gender: Male |
I was just thinking, what if the Wraith and the organic ship components share simular genetic markers, it would be posable to design a retro-virus that targeted those markers...by infecting the ship,you almost garentee that the virus will spread to the Wraith crew and vise versa.
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| Dafmeister |
May 17th 2006, 5:37 PM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
Saying that the Wraith ships have similar DNA to the Wraith is a hell of a leap from saying their ships are partially organic. If some of the ships components are organic they would have to be extremely resilient. It is unlikely that a virus would be able to infect them.
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| KillerMarv |
May 17th 2006, 5:51 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
Geee, I wonder how the Wraith would react to something that infects their ships:
WRAITH 1: We have lost many vital systems, the pathetic humans are escaping... WRAITH 2: Why? WRAITH 1: Our ship is sick. OK, skiping this useless humor, I think that creating such a virus would be too hard to even consider, first of all, you would have to know what the ship's tissue is composed of. |
| macca99 |
May 17th 2006, 8:55 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: February 3rd 2006 Member No.: 11,072 Gender: Male |
it was pretty obvious that the wraith ships were organis. i havent seen that episode but they look like they are.
i think that that would be a stupid weakness for them to have. they will probably end up changing them back into humans cause that what sem to be happening in the episodes ive seen, the docs and 'tists anr trying to make a retro virus etc |
| GoVols |
May 18th 2006, 12:01 AM
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Senior Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 375 Joined: March 25th 2006 From: Knoxvegas Tennessee Member No.: 11,546 Gender: Male |
Well we all know that the most harmfull virii are the ones that the infected organism isnt use to......
Having said that, a superrior immune system would prevent infection by disease. I dont think we can infect these ships with a pathyogen, but i think you can use their organic makeup againgst them in some way. I just dont know what it is... So my point is why the hell wouldnt you try to infect it with small pox, anthrax or one of Earths otherhorrible diseases. Couldnt hurt anything, except for possibly the Wraith. |
| ALIEN_JL |
May 18th 2006, 3:48 AM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 936 Joined: January 14th 2004 Member No.: 3,244 Gender: Male |
I just dont know what it is... So my point is why the hell wouldnt you try to infect it with small pox, anthrax or one of Earths otherhorrible diseases. Couldnt hurt anything, except for possibly the Wraith. If you would unleash something like that it would most likely kill all humans in pegasus because they have never developed immunity... But the Wraiths and their ships maybe sooo different that it couldn't infect them at all... But in anycase this whole weakness in Wraith tech doesn't make any sense... Because the Ancients never had any problems with destroying the Wraith ships and winning the battles... This post has been edited by ALIEN_JL: May 18th 2006, 3:50 AM |
| KillerMarv |
May 18th 2006, 3:50 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
So my point is why the hell wouldnt you try to infect it with small pox, anthrax or one of Earths otherhorrible diseases. Couldnt hurt anything, except for possibly the Wraith. It would probably cost money, and take some time to produce this infections at such a large scale (a great doze would be required), and without having the definite answer that this would result into something worth trying, it would only be a waste of resources and money... and it probably is. |
| Andygod90 |
May 31st 2006, 7:14 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: September 26th 2004 From: ayrshire scotland Member No.: 6,533 Gender: Male |
i always had the impression the wraith had a weakness to salt water. In 38 minutes does the iratus bug not come off sheppard due to the salt water? or did i miss something.
Also we found atlantis under water.......... maybe the ancients knew about the weakness but it was too late to exploit it This post has been edited by Andygod90: May 31st 2006, 7:15 PM |
| KillerMarv |
Jun 1st 2006, 12:47 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
You mean the Wraith could probably have inherrited the salt water weakness from the Iratus bug... Kind of a nice concept, but I doubt it, and we have no idea to accept any theory.
It was said that they have a weakness in their technology. And this wasn't inserted in the program by the Wraith to make them think they have a weakness, since it was the Wraith who deleted the program, that being his initial purpose on that virtual reality. |
| kordone |
Jun 1st 2006, 1:56 AM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 233 Joined: November 24th 2005 From: Sydney Member No.: 10,555 Gender: Male |
Ok I never did Chemistry in school so this might sound stupid...
but if the Wraith weakness is indeed that their Hive ships are organic based maybe a way to combat that with is something entirly different... Example: Arsenik is extremly toxic to humans... maybe the communiqu? was about the organic design of thier Hives & that it would be very easy for the Ancients to figure out what sort of chemical metal or whatever could be toxic to the Wraith Hives organic base. |
| KillerMarv |
Jun 1st 2006, 3:39 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
Yes, maybe you're right about Ancients figuring that out...
But after thinking a while... We know that the Ancients had the power to destroy Wraith ships, and we also know that it wasn't in their nature to exterminate them... So, after using this efficient weapon as a mechanism of defense, the Wraith would have evolved making themselves immune to this weapon after a while, and the Ancients would have been back to square one. |
| ALIEN_JL |
Jun 1st 2006, 6:06 AM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 936 Joined: January 14th 2004 Member No.: 3,244 Gender: Male |
Yep... This weakness thing (if there were such) might have allowed the Ancients to defend them selfs little
better and little longer... But because the Ancients weren't willing to go after the Wraiths and put an end to the War it wouldn't really have changed anything on long run... |
| KillerMarv |
Jun 1st 2006, 8:33 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
On the other hand, the Ancients have ascended and no longer give a damn about how we fare against the Wraith. This weakness could come into our advantage, since we are not like the Ancients, we could use it much the same way we used that powerful weapon against the Replicators. Hmmm, I know where I'm going with this, if the writers come up with something like this, it would be very similar to the way the Replicators have been taken out in the MW. Well, not that similar, since this would be needed to infect their ships and that the Replicators got their kiron pathways disabled
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| Lancelot |
Jun 4th 2006, 12:15 PM
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Chief Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: December 10th 2005 From: Ireland Member No.: 10,650 Gender: Male |
if there is a weakness in there tech the ancients would have found a way to use it on all the wraith ships at
once so maybe it's some sort of radiation as we know living tissue is very susceptible too radiation and that idea about microwaves is quite good |
| KillerMarv |
Jun 4th 2006, 12:25 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
The Ancients couldn't and wouldn't have used any Wraith weakness against all their ships. They had no way of doing that all at once, and also their nature would go against exterminating an entire civilization, no matter how bad it was to them. That is why any weakness they would have taken advantage of, would have eventually failed, since the Wraith would have always found a way to become immune.
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| Rogue Ashrak |
Jun 5th 2006, 9:31 AM
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Hero of Time Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,134 Joined: January 7th 2005 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 7,502 Gender: Male |
Perhaps the weakness could have been similar in nature to the weakness the Priors have to the Anti-Prior technology? Specifically a type of radiation or sonic frequency that paralyzes all Wraith technology.
For example, it could disrupt communication between individual sections of the technology in question. If Wraith technology is at least partly organic, it's not too much of a leap to speculate that it may utilize a type of nervous system for communication. Take a Wraith stunner for example, pulling the trigger sends an electronic message along the nerve pathways to the emitter, which releases the stun pulse in a reflex action. If the Atlanteans had found a way to disrupt these messages, then they could render Wraith technology useless. What's more, it would be a defensive technology, rig a planet or star system with a satellite network broadcasting the jamming frequency, and voila, you have one enitrely Wraith-proof planetary system. No need to hunt down and exterminate Wraith, because they can't get to you. This post has been edited by Rogue Ashrak: Jun 5th 2006, 9:32 AM |
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