It's funny you say that, in one of the Atlantis DVD commentaries Martin Gero was talking about how there really are 7 main characters that they have to write for.

But for the next season it sure sounds like they are going to make Weir the new Hammond or Landry.

I'm pretty sure they're not required to use AT, it's an option they can exercise. However, I think one reason to move Weir to recurring character is to save money, as it's a waste to pay her for a full ep when she's only sending the team on their way.

As for the Dr., I know people like him, but he drives me nuts. I'm sorry for an actor to lose a job, I'm sure he's a decent guy, but I'm not sorry to see the character go.

To say I'm disappointed would be an understatement. I didn't watch Atlantis that much, but when I did, it was for Carson and Rodney. I think it's an insult to Tori to have AT come over and, essentially, replace her. It would have made more sense to just fire Tori or have AT only be recurring or have BOTH of them in charge. I get the feeling that they're trying to make an SG-1 redux out of Atlantis, and that's a shame.

Jeez. It's getting harder and harder to get excited about this franchise.

Amanda said that she signed up for two more years after season 9 and TPTB are choosing to use her. As she has already fulfilled half of her contract then MGM would still have to pay her for the remainder of her contract and so decided to just use her in Atlantis rather than pay for doing nothing.

I like Weir, at least as Torri H. plays her. I think they're making these drastic changes because Atlantis has so far, IMO, been riding SG-1's coattails and now that the series is over they need to do something to keep viewer interest from waning. The show has been pretty tepid and maybe they feel with then influx of Carter it might make some of the more die hard fans keep watching. I agree, though ,that had it been Michael Shanks who had signed that two year contract instead of AT then many more viewers would be more gung-ho on the crossover. Carter has really been reduced to a whining little girl since that horrible "Grace" episode and the horrible Pete storyline.

For one, I think carter will work in atlantis, she was good in Mckay and mrs miller (although only in part of it.) But I do think she'll suit the role, and it may rejuvinate her a little. I dont know if the actors were paid for two years when signing for season 10, or just signed it saying they would do it if it did go ahead, but if not (which I think is more likely, I don't see MGM instantly paying peolpe for stuff they knew might not go ahead, even if it seemed it at the time) then carter will be on reccuring money status, it won't be as much as a full time cast member, but it will be more then your average reccurer.
But for those of you concerned it will just jack up the price of the show, it probably won't, we all know they can afford to have one of the sg1 stars over. It wouldn't drain the budget that much and it is affordable, but she still will be reccuring. As for reducing Tori, I won't judge yet until we know the reasons why (but my inkling isn't that it is to be replaced by carter, given she's just recurring) it's just something that I don't want to see happen. I like Weir, I don't want to see her go just to be replaced by some random schmo as leader, what was wrong with weir that required downsizing??

I didn't mean that Amanda had been paid upon signing her contract but by signing up for two years, she basically pinned her income for the next two years on Stargate continuing. If MGM didn't use her for the second year she could sue them for loss of earnings as she may have been apporoached to appear in other tv shows prior to sign up for Stargate for two years.

For me the greatest loss will be the lack of the Rodney/Carson dynamic that i've come to enjoy.

I don't have any problem with Weir being reduced to recurring, she's rarely in an episode for any great length of time. Also with the development this season its occured to me that Atlantis is becoming more of a military outpost than anything else, so she's not so important to that end.

I'm not sure what to think about this "soft reset" that JF was on about!
Hopefully the last 3 years won't have just been a dream for a main character.

AT's transfer to pegagus may bring SG-1 fans over to SGA
Hopefully she'll be in command of the ship she comes with
but....


Whatever the case may be i'm looking forward to watching it at the end of this year.

WOW, I'm away for awhile and don't know a thing.

All I can say it sucks majorly about Beckett! He's one of my favorite characters on the show. Why couldn't they get rid of Teyla instead.

As far as Weir, I can take her or leave her, so no problem. If AT has signed a contract and couldn't get out of it, then good for her. As long as they remember how to write for Sam, I'll be happy. I have not liked how Vala/CB has taken over the "only" female role on SG1. I'm saying "only" because obviously, they don't know how to write for more than one.

Because Teyla might one day shag Shep? She is an attractive woman, and they might actually be planning on doing something with her in the future. Who knows, there might be a reason for killing Beckett that we don't know about yet. It may actually make sense in the future.

Vala is a fresh character that hasn't been constrained yet. Carter has been boxed in on almost all sides by TPTB... fools...

I'm alright with weir leaving. She was always for peace and that crap and considering this is tv no one really wants that mumbo jumbo. They want action stuff blowing up and people get shot and injured. Well at least most people do, and I know I do.

Well if they haven't done anything after 2 and a half years then there really is no excuse, you're meant to develop characters from the get go, not keep them 'there' for 3 years and then eventually do something. If so they may as well just bring her in for season 4.


Yeah, and I don't always, funny how things work Nah even if you like action they can't just have action action action, there always has to be something to make the action pointfull, action non stop has no meaning, it's when it's contextualised by characters like weir or whoever else that it has a true place. Only having 'action' characters will get lost doing just that too quickly without cause and it won't really be a complete show.
It's like in sg1 if daniel wasn't there to hold back jack what would the show have been like after a point...

and about tori leaving that would be a sad moment for atlantis cause she's a great leader for the scientist
part of the expidition and she's also a diplomat and good at negotiating with other governments
also in my opinion she's the hottest babe in the stargate universe (I like classy women)

ya I know what your saying but like for example star trek deep space 9 the first like what 7 or 8 seasons there was abosultly nothing and it was boring. It was until after that where it got good with the big dominion war. Thats kinda what i think is happening here with atlantis. It just seems to end up as always something good and peacefull and it gets boring like for example

I just hope they do an awesome job with season four and just expload with crazy ideas.

This post has been edited by deadulus101: Jan 21st 2007, 2:54 PM

I am not happy with Weir being reduced. I do like Sam's Character on SG-1 but I don't like this move for her SL especially with the DVD movies they have planned for SG-1 how are they going to arrange it I wonder. I like Weir as a leader it's nice to see a woman being incharge who is strong and smart.

DS9 only went for 7 seasons, and your opinion is a matter of perception. I myself found the dominion war to be very boring, while I quite liked the earlier seasons.

I think you missed the whole point behind The Game.

There was a point behind the Game? I'm not getting all my memo's.

Mag, I actually couldn't get into DS9, the earlier years. I only liked it myself once they began the Dominion War, LOL! So a difference of opinion for everyone, which makes for interesting things.

Like Pitry, I have to ask, game, what game? I really dislike those types of games.

Well what ever happening i tmight be perment Torri has already started to play a role in a show called ''save my soul'' (2006) as Terra (currently in post-production).i have had a look at it the site its certainly a change.
(i try to get a picture from it but i couldnt) most of them have her in a weird punk kind of stile with riped genes and black cloves and i colar to match, i am deeply displeased at the change i think the character of elizabeth weir had a part in the show and will greatly deminised its standard in my eyes ( im quiet angry that well never find out who she would of hooked up with shepard or mckay)

Are you sure about that? There is nothing on her IMDb profile about that and nothing about a show/movie with that title.

There is Yumi In Love...? But thats a movie...


There is a 'BrokenArtists'(?) production by the name of Save My Soul....

Thats the one (sorry i did know if it was a movie or series i just asomed that it was a movie becuase of the poster).

This post has been edited by Crazy Ancient: Feb 12th 2007, 2:26 PM

It looks like a promotional poster for a movie but given Torri is in a reduced role next season, it is possible for her to have a role in another series.

Oh wow...

What is Scifi thinking??? First, they break up their star lineup on Friday night, then they cancel their flagship show, and now make insanely huge changes to a show that was doing very well in the ratings just as it was?? I'm wondering how they're going to successfully integrate all these changes, but possibly judgment should be reserved, seeing as how they managed to revitalize SG1 by adding new characters and all new storylines. We'll see...


This post has been edited by Sighfienerd: Feb 13th 2007, 10:18 PM