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Episode 210/211 - "The Lost Boys" & "The Hive", Mid Season 2 Parter - Spoilers

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JamesyBHOY	May 25th 2005, 2:51 AM Post #1
First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: March 9th 2005 From: Glasgow, Scotland Member No.: 8,385 Gender: Male	Click on spoiler tag to view. Click for Spoiler QUOTE Sheppard and his team finally catch up with Lieutenant Ford (Rainbow Sun Francks), missing since "Runner" (Season Two's third episode). Ford has been altered by exposure to a Wraith enzyme, which gives him extraordinary strength and agility -- like a drug. In the months since he left Atlantis, Ford has gathered a small group of followers, who also take the drug and who are bent on taking the fight to the Wraith. Among them are Kayano and Jace, two young men who have pledged themselves to Ford's cause. Kanayo is the group's leader and a former Genii spy, though like the others his judgment has clearly been affected by the Wraith enzyme. Jace is a technical expert, who has become adept at extracting the enzyme from defeated prey and, thanks to its improvements of his mental acuity, has cracked some of the Wraith language. The group of young warriors has made several successful attacks on the Wraith, retrieving data nodes and utilizing stolen Genii computers and technology from other races. They have also learned much about the Wraith as a species -- such as the fact that they are territorial creatures, and not a unified collective. Jace even suggests to Dr. McKay that they are fracturing even further as a result of Teyla's newfound telepathic abilities, restricting the access that an individual ship has to the Wraith telepathic network. Ford and his followers are vague about their impending plan, but all is soon revealed to Colonel Sheppard: They intend to raid a Wraith hive ship and destroy it, and they want the team's help. "The Lost Boys" is expected to air in September as the final episode of the summer season on The SCI FI Channel. The conclusion, "The Hive," should air in the U.S. in January. Sounds good.

Stargate Master	May 25th 2005, 9:23 AM Post #2
Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: June 3rd 2004 From: County Durham, England, UK Member No.: 5,193 Gender: Male	I can't wait for this episode, it sounds really good. I think their will be good effects in this episode with Ford and his buddies having all those special abilities as in the super strength and agilty.

ancient01	May 25th 2005, 11:37 AM Post #3
Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 298 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Phoenixville, PA Member No.: 6,239 Gender: Male	Sounds like X-men - Stargate style...

Sighfienerd	May 25th 2005, 1:28 PM Post #4
Beyond here there be dragons Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female	I'm so glad to hear that Ford is going to get the chance to do something juicy. It also sounds like this season is going to be much more complex with interesting layering between the team members themselves as well as their (apparent) enemies. Also, Click for Spoiler Does this statement mean it's the Wraith that are fracturing? Jace even suggests to Dr. McKay that they are fracturing even further as a result of Teyla's newfound telepathic abilities.

Dafmeister	May 25th 2005, 3:07 PM Post #5
General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male	Cant really comment on this episode yet as there isnt much of a background story. I get the impression that the Wraith are becoming Goa'uld-like. They dont operate as a whole "collective" and they are territorial, seems familiar. I wonder if the title of the episode means that those who are effected by this enzyme cannot die? The Lost Boys in Peter Pan basically lived forever (they didnt grow up) or does it refer to the film of the same name that featured Vampires?

Sighfienerd	May 25th 2005, 6:32 PM Post #6
Beyond here there be dragons Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female	QUOTE(Dafmeister @ May 25th 2005, 4:07 PM) Cant really comment on this episode yet as there isnt much of a background story. I get the impression that the Wraith are becoming Goa'uld-like. They dont operate as a whole "collective" and they are territorial, seems familiar. I wonder if the title of the episode means that those who are effected by this enzyme cannot die? The Lost Boys in Peter Pan basically lived forever (they didnt grow up) or does it refer to the film of the same name that featured Vampires? Dafmeister, what an interesting thought! I was thinking of it in terms of the Peter Pan thing that the Lost Boys were, well, lost and didn't know how to find their way home - meaning that they had lost their own essence and become something else. But yeah, I bet the writer's had both of these references in mind. Good catch.

Mister Oragahn	May 27th 2005, 5:32 PM Post #7
Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,261 Joined: July 20th 2003 Member No.: 2,085 Gender: Male	Possibly both, since both would fit with the ideas here (unknown territories, boys, youth and vampirism).

JamesyBHOY	May 27th 2005, 6:28 PM Post #8
First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: March 9th 2005 From: Glasgow, Scotland Member No.: 8,385 Gender: Male	I originally thought 'The Lost Boys' as in the movie. Hunters & all that. Suppose come to think of it though the Peter Pan bit probably bears good resemblance as well. Since if they're part Wraith, then they might never age as long as they get regular doses of the Enzyme.

dr lee	Jun 1st 2005, 7:49 AM Post #9
Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,342 Joined: February 16th 2005 From: england Member No.: 8,109 Gender: Male	COLONEL sheppard???? when does he become a colonel?

Aegir	Jun 1st 2005, 8:00 AM Post #10
Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: November 24th 2004 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 7,061 Gender: Male	QUOTE(dr lee @ Jun 2nd 2005, 1:49 AM) COLONEL sheppard???? when does he become a colonel? Thats a good point.... how do you go from Major to Colonel in 10 episodes?? typo maybe ??

Andygod90	Jun 1st 2005, 8:11 AM Post #11
Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: September 26th 2004 From: ayrshire scotland Member No.: 6,533 Gender: Male	maybe he gets promoted 4 saving atlantis's ass in the start of season 2

JamesyBHOY	Jun 1st 2005, 9:02 AM Post #12
First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: March 9th 2005 From: Glasgow, Scotland Member No.: 8,385 Gender: Male	QUOTE(dr lee @ Jun 1st 2005, 1:49 PM) COLONEL sheppard???? when does he become a colonel? Click for Spoiler He gets promomoted by Caldwell in 'Intruder'.

Dafmeister	Jun 1st 2005, 11:37 AM Post #13
General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male	QUOTE(Aegir @ Jun 1st 2005, 2:00 PM) Thats a good point.... how do you go from Major to Colonel in 10 episodes?? typo maybe ?? He has been a Major long before he joined the Atlantis expedition, so he hasnt been a Major for just season 1. This post has been edited by Dafmeister: Jun 1st 2005, 12:42 PM

Carter-Hot	Jun 1st 2005, 12:36 PM Post #14
Captain Group: Members Posts: 995 Joined: December 26th 2003 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 3,067 Gender: Male	It's actually Lieutenant Colonel

JamesyBHOY	Jun 1st 2005, 2:31 PM Post #15
First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: March 9th 2005 From: Glasgow, Scotland Member No.: 8,385 Gender: Male	Oops, I was wondering about those responses asking about Colonel. I couldn't find any. So by chance I read mu own & saw it was me who originally made the mistake. Doh! It was just a Typo, I was running late that morning for work & missed out the Lt. , which should have went before the Col. part. Sorry about that.

JamesyBHOY	Jun 3rd 2005, 2:04 AM Post #16
First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: March 9th 2005 From: Glasgow, Scotland Member No.: 8,385 Gender: Male	Spoilers for the 2nd Part 'The Hive' Just Released! Click for Spoiler Following Lieutenant Ford's plan to use his new army of young men enhanced by the Wraith enzyme to attack a Wraith hive ship in "The Lost Boys" Lt.Colonel John Sheppard finds himself a captive of the Wraith. Ford and Sheppard are in captivity aboard a Wraith Hive ship as their convoy travels through space. They find themselves sharing a cell on board a Wraith ship with Neera, a timid young girl he rescued from a stasis cocoon. Neera's entire world was destroyed, and the girl once witnessed her mother and her brother being fed upon by the Wraith. She knew that she was marked for this grisly fate as well. Neera is intimidated by Ford, who is also captured -- but comforts him when he begins to experience withdrawl symptoms due to a lack of Wraith enzyme. Ford is eventually taken away by the guards & takes her place in the cocoon in instead. While Neera blames herself for their capture. Sheppard tries to keep the mood light to encourage Neera, while at the same time looking for a way to escape. She is impresses that the Colonel does not fear the Wraith, and wants to know more about where he comes from. She tells Sheppard that her whole world was destroyed by the Wraith and her people were culled and brought to this Hive ship. She had to watch as her mother and younger brother were fed upon. Her people were a simple people and had no means to fight the Wraith. Back on Atlantis, McKay and Zelenka confer with Weir and Colonel Caldwell; McKay seems very worried. Later on in the episode, it seems that Neera and Sheppard get a little closer and she ends up sleeping next to him to keep warm. Sheppard comforts her by telling her that she can go back to Atlantis with him when they manage to escape and also tells her of Earth. Sheppard tried to get some sleep when suddenly they feel the ship drop out of HS. Shep comments that they must be getting close to the culling. A short time later, 2 Wraith Grunts & a Male Wraith suddenly appear at the cell door & it opens. They grab him and drag him from the cell before he can react. At some point it turns out that Neera is a Wraith worshipper sent by the Hive Queen to gather information from Sheppard. Her shy, frightened attitude shifts to one of blind devotion.

Stargate Master	Jun 3rd 2005, 4:21 AM Post #17
Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: June 3rd 2004 From: County Durham, England, UK Member No.: 5,193 Gender: Male	The second part looks even better than the first in my opinion. It looks to be another action-packed Wraith episode, which has got me very excited.

unseen_shadow	Aug 15th 2005, 2:25 PM Post #18
Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: March 6th 2005 Member No.: 8,346 Gender: Not Telling	How ironic this whole time everyone was expecting Ford to be the one who gives away the existance of Atlantis

ted_simple	Aug 16th 2005, 1:29 AM Post #19
SIR Ted Simple Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: January 8th 2004 From: Take an educated guess Member No.: 3,194 Gender: Male	I don't understand why the Wraith will not simply extract the information through telepathic interrogation as they did with Sumner.

ColonelJackO'NeillRocks	Aug 16th 2005, 12:26 PM Post #20
Brigadier General Group: Members Posts: 2,098 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: New York Member No.: 1,333 Gender: Male	QUOTE(ted_simple @ Aug 16th 2005, 2:29 AM) I don't understand why the Wraith will not simply extract the information through telepathic interrogation as they did with Sumner. It is one thing to defeat your enemies by force, but to have them realize that they defeated themselves, that is a greater and sweeter victory. Rocks out. This post has been edited by ColonelJackO'NeillRocks: Aug 16th 2005, 12:27 PM

JamesyBHOY	Aug 24th 2005, 11:50 AM Post #21
First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: March 9th 2005 From: Glasgow, Scotland Member No.: 8,385 Gender: Male	First preview pics released for 'The Lost Boys', which is the first part. First preview pics released for 'The Lost Boys', which is the first part. Click for Spoiler

Auntie Em!	Aug 24th 2005, 12:35 PM Post #22
Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female	I like seeing a production pic. (the last one). Cool James.

Stargate Master	Aug 24th 2005, 12:49 PM Post #23
Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: June 3rd 2004 From: County Durham, England, UK Member No.: 5,193 Gender: Male	Nice pics James, once again. Looks to be a good episode. Also, Ford looks as if he has an afro now, lol.

Cindy	Sep 10th 2005, 3:38 AM Post #24
Airman Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: January 19th 2005 Member No.: 7,647 Gender: Female	QUOTE(JamesyBHOY @ Jun 2nd 2005, 12:32 AM) Click for Spoiler He gets promomoted by Caldwell in 'Intruder'. Sheppard does get promoted in Intruder but not by Caldwell.

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