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| Ringbearer |
 Sep 24th 2005, 3:56 PM
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Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: April 22nd 2005 From: USA- New Mexico Member No.: 8,892 Gender: Female  |
I liked this episode!! Very good! I kinda started to suspect that one lady after a little while!! It was also very funny! LOL!!
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| Ben64 |
Sep 24th 2005, 4:22 PM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: February 21st 2003 From: Dallas, Tx Member No.: 794 Gender: Male |
Aurora... in HD
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| Lt.ColonelHaylee |
Sep 24th 2005, 8:04 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: January 2nd 2005 From: hammond's home state Member No.: 7,428 Gender: Female |
Can anyone tell me where i can download this episode, i was busy running from hurricane rita!!
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| Auntie Em! |
Sep 24th 2005, 9:20 PM
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Sipping on fine wine!  Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
Damn that is an AMAZING difference in HD. Now I want my next tv to be HD. WOW. Beautiful pic Ben.
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| sg69leader |
Sep 24th 2005, 10:25 PM
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Senior Airman  Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: August 13th 2004 Member No.: 6,035 Gender: Male |
Hey, can somebody get that pic on photoshop and modify it so maybe we can see what it use to look like, I would but my photoshop is acting real gay.
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| Jack_O'Neill |
Sep 25th 2005, 6:11 AM
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Airman Basic  Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: January 24th 2003 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 444 |
I loved this episode, it struck me as very well thought out and I liked the explanations about whatever was being explained, all save for one.
Something just occured to me, if Mckay was new to Aurora and he could gain access to any file within the virtual environment even though he didn't have any codes, it seems to me that anybody could do the same. Therefore it would make sense for any classified data to not be in the virtual environment where anybody could access it. So what I want to know is, why didn't Mckay figure that out? Surely they aren't going to put classified info in a place where any Wraith can just waltz into, which means it would still have existed outside, in the real Aurora. Which means they lost a good chance to get a Wraith tech weakness  On the bright side, this episode kicked ass, since I don't care if episodes advance the main storyline since we're only in season 2  |
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| Andorian15 |
Sep 25th 2005, 10:37 AM
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:)  Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,110 Joined: April 28th 2005 From: π Member No.: 8,943 Gender: Male |
QUOTE Can anyone tell me where i can download this episode, i was busy running from hurricane rita! Sorry, but you can't download episodes here, and were not allowed to talk about where you can. There are a lot of legal issues that have to be resolved, so Arcady just wants us to avoid the subject. You can read more here QUOTE I loved this episode, it struck me as very well thought out and I liked the explanations about whatever was being explained, all save for one. Something just occured to me, if Mckay was new to Aurora and he could gain access to any file within the virtual environment even though he didn't have any codes, it seems to me that anybody could do the same. Therefore it would make sense for any classified data to not be in the virtual environment where anybody could access it. So what I want to know is, why didn't Mckay figure that out? Surely they aren't going to put classified info in a place where any Wraith can just waltz into, which means it would still have existed outside, in the real Aurora. Which means they lost a good chance to get a Wraith tech weakness For a while I thought that too, but then it occured to me that they didn't know about it until inside the reality* and didn't realize they couldn't access it untill the ship was about to blow itself to pieces. After all, I dont see how Mckay could know that the ancients who discovered it, wouldnt know their own discovery from when it really happened. It was their minds in the first place. So they didn't have much of a chance to figure out that it still existed in the regular reality. Besides, the ship was ripped apart, not all the info could have survived. |
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| seymour |
Sep 25th 2005, 12:23 PM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 233 Joined: February 2nd 2004 Member No.: 3,394 Gender: Male |
Reminded me somewhat of Avatar (SG-1, 806) but had an interesting take on the VR world.
I really wish Sci-Fi's promos hadn't revealed which crew member was a Wraith since it killed any suspense. |
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| Samara Draven |
Sep 25th 2005, 5:11 PM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: July 24th 2005 From: Florida Member No.: 9,647 Gender: Female |
I just saw this episode and I laughed hysterically a few times, mostly due to Sheppard's and Rodney's interaction. I enjoyed it. Without the funnies it could've been more boring. Some of it I saw coming. Although I didn't mind it that much 'cause it made me feel like I'm smart or something.
Click for Spoiler Wait a minute! The Sci-fi promos showed the wraith? I don't remember seeing a wraith in the promos. They just made it sound like the whole team was trapped in an alternate reality. |
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| Mental Case |
Sep 25th 2005, 6:46 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: February 19th 2003 Member No.: 751 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(sg69leader @ Sep 23rd 2005, 11:55 PM) This is a race that was ten times more advanced 10,000 years ago than the Asgard are now, so the styling of that ship just looks like crap. I prefer an O'neill class ship. If I was part of an advanced race and working on designing those ships, I couldn't care less about looks, but more about functionality. Looks are not equal to technology. Of course it is "cool" to have them looking nice, but I see no reason why looks and technology should collerate. Plus while I hate to perpetuate stereotypes it'd probably be fairly geeky people working on those levels of tech and they aren't known for their keen sense of style. Also it was basically a derelict, expect more cool looking ships if we ever see a fully working one  . |
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| hobo_joe20 |
Sep 25th 2005, 6:52 PM
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Brigadier General  Group: Members Posts: 2,357 Joined: May 13th 2005 From: Guelph, Ontario Member No.: 9,055 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Samara Draven @ Sep 25th 2005, 6:11 PM) According to McKay, the Aurora was dormant and the wraith didn't know about it until Atlantis' recall beacon woke it up. Supposedly they blew up the wraith but maybe they didn't because he beamed out of his ship and onto the Aurora. But then why didn't he die on Aurora? It didn't have life support. So unless, the wraith just jumped right into a pod, how did he survive? And how could he have installed his 'gear' prior to getting in without dying? If he got in then came out after Rodney restored life support to install his gear, then Teyla should've sensed him. Since this is the episode discussion, you don't need to add spoiler tags around discussion about this episode. It was never mentioned if that one room had lifesupport or not. My guess would be that it had. Therefore the Wraith would have been able to install its devices before the Atlantis team got there. As for Teyla detecting it, it could have had something to do with the electromagnetic disturbence from the pods. We can't be certain of their effect on her abilities to detect other wraith. |
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| seymour |
Sep 25th 2005, 7:44 PM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 233 Joined: February 2nd 2004 Member No.: 3,394 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Samara Draven @ Sep 25th 2005, 5:11 PM) Wait a minute! The Sci-fi promos showed the wraith? I don't remember seeing a wraith in the promos. They just made it sound like the whole team was trapped in an alternate reality.  yep. the promos I saw showed the "hot" female ancient shift into an Wraith creature and make that snarling Wraith sound. The promo voiceover suggested the episode was set in an alternate reality and made it seem (inaccurately) that in this alternate reality there were half-ancient/halfWraith creatures walking around on the ship. So I knew there was a Wraith on board the Ancient ship before Teyla found the Wraith in the chamber. As I said the promo killed the episode for me. This post has been edited by seymour: Sep 25th 2005, 7:45 PM |
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| startreksuite |
Sep 25th 2005, 8:32 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: March 26th 2005 From: Boston, MA , USA Member No.: 8,622 Gender: Male |
Good episode! It was cool that they were able to find some "living" ancients to talk to, and see what kind of technology their ship had. It was neat how Rodney and John found a way to talk to these people, and that one of the ancients was actually a wraith in disguise. Was this possible because the wraith have the ability to manipulate minds, or that it went into a pod that an ancient/alterran was previously in. And what is the the wraith weakness that was erased from the ship's database/harddrive? Hope these questions will be answered in the next season!
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| Circe |
Sep 25th 2005, 8:51 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: June 10th 2005 From: Toronto Member No.: 9,250 Gender: Female |
I liked it..7/10. A lot of Shep and McKay always floats my boat.
 I didn?t have time to read the whole thread (Have to go to bed early on Sun...8:30 class on Mon morning) so forgive me if this has already been covered. Ronan got on my nerves in this episode. He was a bit of a dick to Wier, getting up and just leaving her at the table like that. Not even an excuse me, just ?I?m leaving?. RUDE.  Tayla was kind of funny in this episode?How she just stood there when she was supposed to be sending McKay in. I laughed. And I HATE Tayla, so that?s saying a lot. I also didn?t like the outfit the first officer had on. Why do they always have to have the women on this show in reveling outfits. The male crew members on the Aurora were not in a plunging neck line, and I don?t think any of them were in a sleeveless get up either. I hope the writers decide to stop trying to scank up the show. I love X-Files as well  , he and Wier should get it on. I think he is the type that likes a take charge lady, and she is dressed sensibly as well?any way time for bed now |
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| usmctech99 |
Sep 26th 2005, 12:20 AM
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SILENCE!!!! I Kill you! Group: Donating Members Posts: 282 Joined: July 29th 2005 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 9,693 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Circe @ Sep 25th 2005, 7:51 PM) I also didn?t like the outfit the first officer had on. Why do they always have to have the women on this show in reveling outfits. The male crew members on the Aurora were not in a plunging neck line, and I don?t think any of them were in a sleeveless get up either. I hope the writers decide to stop trying to scank up the show. I don't think it was that revealing, the only skin you see is her arms and that little bit of neckline and chest, but no cleavage... although her uniform is form-fitting, so were a lot of the males' uniforms. But the other women in the crew did had sleeves, the 1st officer is the only one who didn't... and the neckline looks lower on her than on the other women. Maybe the Wraith changed her the uniform so it would be easier to control the Male ancients? Pictures are always better... aside from the sleeves and neckline, it looks like a standard female uniform for that ship. |
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| youngjediboy |
Sep 26th 2005, 7:07 AM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: February 15th 2004 From: San Francisco Bay Area, California Member No.: 3,547 Gender: Male |
I was thinking TRON more than The Matrix.
I know that SG-1 has always made the Ancients look like this incredible and omnipotent race... but I like how it's doing now showing that they were human just like we are, of course much much MUCH more advanced technologically but still human. And typically the more you rely on technology the less you rely on human resources... which explains why most of the human form Ancient's we've seen so far seem to be pretty dumb. Lastly, boy that 1st officer was hot! Seems like all of the female Ancients shown so far have been pretty darned hot! |
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| Ty_dA_maNn58 |
Sep 26th 2005, 11:54 AM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: September 27th 2004 Member No.: 6,545 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Ben64 @ Sep 20th 2005, 3:28 PM) I really liked this episode, was hoping for a bit more Atlantian knowledge then they got All in all, it was entertaining, but alas, doesn't seem to progress the storyline at all. I agree fully with that statement I think its time they got a break and talekd to an ancient and got a little tip. I really think they should of walked away with something. Other then that comment, I think this episode was boring and predictable. the first time the chick refused to ley shepard see the captain, I knew what was goin on. I even geussed the right amount of wraith ships to come |
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| Samara Draven |
Sep 26th 2005, 12:35 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: July 24th 2005 From: Florida Member No.: 9,647 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(hobo_joe20 @ Sep 25th 2005, 7:52 PM) Since this is the episode discussion, you don't need to add spoiler tags around discussion about this episode. Pardon me. I had cut and pasted this comment from the original yet incorrect forum I had posted it in. QUOTE(hobo_joe20 @ Sep 25th 2005, 7:52 PM) It was never mentioned if that one room had lifesupport or not. My guess would be that it had. Therefore the Wraith would have been able to install its devices before the Atlantis team got there. Oh how convenient that that one room had life support. Nope. I just think the writers overlooked it and hoped we would too. QUOTE(hobo_joe20 @ Sep 25th 2005, 7:52 PM) As for Teyla detecting it, it could have had something to do with the electromagnetic disturbence from the pods. We can't be certain of their effect on her abilities to detect other wraith. While I do agree that she probably couldn't detect the wraith when he was in the pod, my point was; why didn't she detect him before he got in. Even after they thought they'd destroyed the dart, I still think she should've sensed him. He was close enough. Granted we don't know much about her ability but it seems that for the wraith to be able to communicate they have to have some decent range with that. Perhaps within a solar system. Sometimes she has demonstrated that she has a pretty good range. The writers haven't cleared it up specifically so I guess it will remain a grey area. |
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| unseen_shadow |
Sep 26th 2005, 6:25 PM
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Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: March 6th 2005 Member No.: 8,346 Gender: Not Telling |
Your all asuming that he wasnt in the pod before the Daedalus arrived, the dart could have simply been his transportation.
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| kukulkan |
Sep 26th 2005, 6:45 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: September 26th 2005 From: Tours,France Member No.: 10,240 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Sep 21st 2005, 9:33 AM) What did you think about the exterior of the ship it was very strange and not worthy of a race that could build a ship like Atlantis. The inside did not fit the outside. I could not agree more with you. I was quite stumbled at first when I looked at it? "Is that really the Ancient ship?" I think the ship was **very heavily** broken when daedalus get there just like what they said at the beginning. But still, it looked awkward! I watched this ep twice, just to confirm the above that I have mentioned. I have my sympathy to them. Overall, 9 out of 10. |
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| hobo_joe20 |
Sep 26th 2005, 7:12 PM
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Brigadier General Group: Members Posts: 2,357 Joined: May 13th 2005 From: Guelph, Ontario Member No.: 9,055 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(unseen_shadow @ Sep 26th 2005, 7:25 PM) Your all asuming that he wasnt in the pod before the Daedalus arrived, the dart could have simply been his transportation. Actually we ARE assuming that he WAS in the pod before the Daedalus arrived. We are trying to figure out HOW he got into the pod with no lifesupport. Another thought I have would be that the wraith was the one to turn OFF the lifesupport when they realized that the Daedalus approached, to slow down and searching of the ship. |
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| Circe |
Sep 26th 2005, 8:45 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: June 10th 2005 From: Toronto Member No.: 9,250 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(usmctech99 @ Sep 26th 2005, 12:20 AM) I don't think it was that revealing, the only skin you see is her arms and that little bit of neckline and chest, but no cleavage... although her uniform is form-fitting, so were a lot of the males' uniforms. But the other women in the crew did had sleeves, the 1st officer is the only one who didn't... and the neckline looks lower on her than on the other women. Maybe the Wraith changed her the uniform so it would be easier to control the Male ancients? Pictures are always better... aside from the sleeves and neckline, it looks like a standard female uniform for that ship. It wasn?t just the first officer in the plunging neck line, the other lady crew members were also in plunging neck lines, although they were in full sleeves. Moreover, if there are standard uniforms the men and the women should be wearing the same ones. There is no need for them to have a plunging neckline, except for sex appeal, which is sorely misplaced in a military environment?IMO And why is there only the need to control the male ancients? |
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| IndyJan |
Sep 27th 2005, 2:14 AM
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Lieutenant General Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Pitry @ Sep 22nd 2005, 9:55 AM) "McKay, you're drooling over a Wraith!!" As for the episode... Actually I didn't think of Gamekeeper. T'was more like... The Matrix!!  T'was pretty entertaining, despite being very Matrix-ish (and this I'm saying without having watched parts 2 & 3). "We take turns in saving each others' lives. This time it's my turn. You'll get to go next." Okay I have to agree here. It struck me and my husband as very Matrix. My husband said it first, and I had to agree. It in no way reminded me of Gamekeeper. Gamekeeper, they couldn't get out because they thought it was real. In this one, Sheppard and McKay could get out at any time. They knew it was not real. I felt so badly for the crew of the Aurora. They had thought that they were bringing something back to Atlantis that would save them. How sad to find out, it's 10,000 years too late. This is the Mckay that I love and adore! He's so funny, and so hypocondriac about himself. He had to be the one to go into the pod, until Teyla pointed out, "if something went wrong, who would be the greater loss?" McKay, stops, thinks and says, "you're right, I shouldn't go." I love the looks between Shep and Teyla after that remark. And McKay's comments about saving each other's lives was a hoot. Now if they can only figure out what weakness the Wraith have! |
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| Stargate Master |
Sep 28th 2005, 1:36 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: June 3rd 2004 From: County Durham, England, UK Member No.: 5,193 Gender: Male |
Fantastic episode from Atlantis here. Imagine what the Aurora would have looked like when it was in it's prime?
It surprised me that the 1st officer was actually the Wraith, I thought it would have been some randon Male security officer. But, it was kind of obvious when she kept keeping Sheppard from seeing the Captain. I think it would be actually very interesting to see the Wraith establish a foothold in our galaxy. That would be good for one crossover episode. Overall though this episode would get a 9/10 from me! |
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