9/10.

The graphics were fantastic. I loved the bright blue tone they used, it was beautiful. I liked their outfits too. Very good episode. Though sadly, I never got to see the whole entire episode for I was at work. Sucks to be me huh? Well, from the half hour I got to experience, it was pretty good, even though I had no idea in what was going on.

This post has been edited by linda_lol: Sep 29th 2005, 6:37 PM

The bright blue tone makes me think the first officer should've been shivering in her sleeveless outfit. I tend to associate pale blue with being bitterly cold and sterile. Their whole environment struck me as lacking warmth which I think is odd considering the warm tones of Atlantis. It was pretty to look at but I had to watch it covered in a blanket. What can I say? I'm weird. The ambience of environment affects me.

This post has been edited by Samara Draven: Sep 29th 2005, 9:20 PM

I like them going back to the longer intro, I missed the full opening theme music:)

Yeah that did kind of suck. I miss the opening creds. At first, I thought TPTB didn't want to give away too much until a few episodes had aired but when the opener didn't come back; I became worried, so I'm really happy they've decided to go back to the full opening.

i feel really sad after that one...

it almost made me cry

one of the best ive ever seen from sga

Actually it was Sci-Fi that cut the opening credits, not TPTB. Here in Canada, we have always had the full opening . But for more info, check around for the one of a few threads that talk about it. As far as I have heard, the full intro will be back in the new year, for both SG-1 and SGA.

Ok. It's official. It's not fair and I wanna move to Canada. I can't stand Bush anymore and my favorite network cut off my favorite shows intro. If not Canada, Australia, then. That would be nice- better even.

guys you seem to be missing some stuff......

the wraith found aurora a bit earlier before sga.. they had time to search through the whole program and figure out a way to configure their vr to suit their needs to upgrade their hyperdrive..

the wraiths deleted the important information, and thats with their lower level of tech.. meaning they had time to study it...so they were there for quite a while...
they were using aurora as a quiet place to learn new tech...

the scoutship could just be the one setting up the new thingie once they figured out that aurora has been recalled.... the wraith in the pod could have been there for some months....

well their at the edge of ths system, and i doubt that Sga woulda immediatly set out there... hyperspace would take em some time.. etc..

if they had info on wraith weakness, wouldnt they be somewhere near the wraith..

the wraith in the pod couldnt have been in ther for ages since, mackay said it was recently installed...

mackay doesnt seem to need more than 2 minutes to hook into the system, so why couldnt a wraith take that amount of time, or less?

Lagger I do not think that the Wraith was in there to long. One thing that supports that thought is that the D destroyed the wraiths ship when it first encountered the Aurora.

lagger: its not the pod that was recently installed but the addon i think....

It was the wraith gear stuck to the wall that was recently installed.

Wraith iPod?

iPillage

the blue light was probably a baseic function of the ship . remember the arora lost a big ass batle to the wrath.

does that mean Canada have opening credits which has ronan and the cute-ass Dr. Beckett in them?
That is so awesome!


Anyhow, loved this episode, seemed to be a little iffy when i first heard of it but it is so cool now.
good ep to watch.

Yes we have had the full minute intro from the beginning of the season.

A very good episode. McKay cracked me up, what with him saying Sheppard's reaction to powerful weapons was Pavlovian and saying that the first officer was hot, REALLY hot.
McKay is either incredibly lucky or incredibly good with a gun, being able to shoot a Wraith with quite a good degree of accuracy whilst running away and not looking at the Wraith.

59% Kind of fun, but full of bull.

HEAVY-LIFTING OF THE WEEK: Okay, we get it. Voyager stole the plot of 'Beneath the Surface' for a sweeps episode. That doesn't mean you have to steal all of Voyager's good episodes. This is a rip of 'The Thaw', an uncharacterically cool episode. The bit where McKay made some subtle alterations was reminiscent of Janeway's rewriting of the Holonovel-gone-awry TM for Tuvok and Paris's benefit in 'Worst Case Scenario'. It also ringed of the Thor-like jail break in 'Revelations' of SG1.

LAUGH-LINE OF THE WEEK: "Make sure the equations are entered in the correct sequence." Classic Trekkist trying to sound intelligent with a dumb line.

DUMBASS OF THE WEEK: McKay seemed quite thick in this episode. He tried to disconnect a Wraith from the simulation without thinking he might be quite annoyed upon waking up and then proceeded to work on his laptop with his back to the door. He also seemed to do his utmost to keep the simulation going for as long as possible such as refusing to remove Shepherd based on paranoid fears about Wraith booby traps and failing to tell Shepherd important information that might have persuaded him to cut the expedition short.

NEW TECHNOLOGY OF THE WEEK: McKay was able to know enough about the program to do the Thor-like jail break yet couldn't simply extract the information they needed from the outside.

GOOD SHOT OF THE WEEK: McKay fires at random while running away from the Wraith and manages to hit the area around his pod at each turn.

CLICHE AVOIDED OF THE WEEK: Thank the Ori they didn't trot out the old "We can't get out of the simulation" routine that was done in SG1 'The Gamekeeper', 'Avatar', in Voyager 'The Thaw' and just about every holodeck episode... in any series... ever!, and of course The Matrix.

NON-MISFIT OF THE WEEK: For two weeks in a row, Ronan has been likeable. His interaction with Teyla was quite good.

MYSTERY OF THE WEEK: So what was the stasis all about anyway?

RETURN TO EARTH OF THE WEEK: Skin head Ancients? If those scenes weren't so white, I could have sworn I was watching Red Dwarf.

dude you're being quite hard on the episode, though everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
i thought the ep was class. At least when we first saw the aurora it wasnt the stereotypical extremely advanced race type. in fact i actually prefer the way the aurora looked kinda bad ass lol

teylas quick thinking was nicely done. also mckay is quickly becoming my favourite character over every episode his comments are just so quirky and unthought of ( i dont think he realises he says half the remarks). the banter between shep and rodney never ceases to amuse me

10/10 amazing episode

I liked this episode.
That's all I'm going to say on the subject.
(...positively, that is!)


General Complaints:

The Wraith 'weakness' - correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that information 10,000 years out of date? Surely they must have advanced even just a little in that time, even if the majority of the population was in hibernation? Of course, the Wraith double-agent deleting the communique does seem to suggest that it was still relevant...but why?

The Aurora - I really dislike seeing huge ships on screen. They're too huge, so you can't take everything in - to me, it just looks like a big hunk o' crap. I'm still not entirely sure what the Daedalus looks like! The only ship I'm pretty confident about visually is the Prometheus, and that's because it's surface is pretty uniform/smooth. Aside from that, the ship itself didn't look particularly advanced, I was expecting something sleeker. Sure, it was heavily damaged and has been adrift for 10,000 years, but you could sort of tell that it had always been sort of...bitty and clunky...if those words mean anything! The interior was to my liking, however!

The Ancients - man, those Ancients were tools (see next point). They seemed even more ignorant than other (supposedly less advanced) star crews, like Voyager and Enterprise. Don't even get me started on the uniforms...they seemed so antequated, nothing compared to the streamline outfits from past episodes like Before I Sleep.

Captain Ancient - man, that Captain Ancient was a tool. He seemed generally good-hearted, but he seemed to be totally whipped by 1st Officer McWraith - she was basically getting him to jump through hoops, ordering them around as if she were the Captain, not him.

Exiting VR (or VE? ;)) land - was I the only one who expected Samara to pop up and crawl out of the TV screen whenever the static effect flashed as someone left the simulation? *snicker*

Caldwell - what a one-dimensional ass. Human antagonists never sit well with me...and not in the way they're supposed to, either.

The Toast - while poignant, I felt the end scene reaked of cheese. I liked how they took a moment to remember the crew, but it could've been handled in a much more refined way, IMO.

And that's that!

it was a good episode, except, my natural ability to nitpick kicked in near the beginning, is it just me, or did they not have airtanks when they were in the space suits? i have the episode recorded and watched that part again, but still didnt see any tanks

Those hazard suits recirculate external air and puts it through a filter. It does not create air out of a vacuum so good nitpick there Togar!



Love that. I think I will use it now. "Thank the Orii"! People will think I am crazy. Just how I prefer them to think of me.

This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Dec 15th 2005, 5:04 AM

I liked this episiode but i have one question how is it that ancients age in stasis pods?
the asgard are much less sophisticated than ancinents yet they dont age in their pods (i am referring to the episode in sg1 where thor gets captured by anubus i think it was called revalations)

i would be grateful if any one can answer this question

It does not stop metabolism. So you not frozen in place you are actually in a deep sleep with a very very slow heart rate and metabolim. So you still age just very slowly.