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| Arcady |
 Dec 5th 2005, 9:24 PM
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Base Commander  Group: Admin Posts: 4,951 Joined: November 26th 2002 From: Dallas, Texas USA Member No.: 1 Gender: Male  |
Season 2, Episode 14 - Grace Under Pressure
Air Dates: CA: Dec. 12, 8 PM (TMN) US: Jan. 27, 9 PM (Sci Fi Channel) UK: Feb. 1, 8 PM (Sky One) McKay finds himself trapped in a puddle jumper which has crashed under water, and the rest of the team attempt to rescue him. Episode Guide | Spoilers | Teaser (This topic is for people who have seen the episode to discuss it. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read this topic.) |
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| Ghostdraconi |
Dec 13th 2005, 9:25 AM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: November 16th 2004 Member No.: 6,964 Gender: Male |
I guess it's no coincidence that this reminds me of the SG-1 seventh season episode Grace. Still I found it enjoyable.
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| Auntie Em! |
Dec 13th 2005, 9:27 AM
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Sipping on fine wine!  Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
Well I guess this episode answers the question if there is life in the Ocean around Atlantis. When McKay sets off the Emergency broadcast signal a whale comes in and is attracted to the PJ. Also when Shep goes down in another PJ they get sporadic life signs on their detector.
Also answers the 'why no boats in atlantis' question. The PJ are meant to be submersibles. The PJ can go deeper than our earth submarines. Which is cool. It was nice to see Carter. She looks damn good. Fun to see McKay and Carter fight like the good old days. This show was good in that it teaches McKay that he is not the answer to every crisis that hits the Atlantis. That sometimes he needs to sit back and do nothing. Which for McKay is extremely difficult. Carter was there to talk him out of doing his air brain attempt to save himself. Petty, arrogant and treats people badly. McKay than asks if Carter finds him attractive and she says that that he is best to return to trying to survive. He asked her to take her top off.  Than Carter snuggles up to McKay and he says what are you doing she says for heat. He says you not here she says "Does not mean I cannot get you hot!" Than she goes for a swim and comes up in panties and a bra. They start snuggling and kissing. Very weird indeed to see. He suddenly realizes that she is trying to prevent him from doing plan and she reappears fully clothed. Oh well he should have just gone with making out with Carter instead. He thinks to much. Over a good episode. Nice to see that McKay valued the life that was sacrificed to save his life. He thought of the plan to close the door but could not act on it because he did not want to die. Nice for him in his ego to realize that the other man thought of it but that he was willing to give his life to save McKay. This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Dec 13th 2005, 9:29 AM |
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| CrazySac |
Dec 13th 2005, 9:55 AM
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Airman Basic  Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: December 19th 2004 Member No.: 7,284 Gender: Not Telling |
Not a bad episode just hope they stray from anymore stories of being trapped in a jumper for another few years . I can understand one story of this basis but we have already had two since the start of SGA.
Is it me or the makeup artist did a horrible job on Mckays forhead, I kept seeing the bandaid looking skin where his bruise was . I dont know why but it was annoying, you could make out the shape of it so you knew it was fake . Big plus Carter was showing mad clevage during majority of the episode. I swear this is the first time that I heard them use Zelenka's first name . They said Radek a crap load just thought it was odd. |
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| Raxor |
Dec 13th 2005, 1:37 PM
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... Group: Moderators Posts: 4,361 Joined: December 26th 2002 From: England, Uk Member No.: 174 Gender: Male |
good ep, im sure the carter fans will like this one :)
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| rkenshin |
Dec 13th 2005, 3:56 PM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: August 15th 2004 Member No.: 6,063 Gender: Not Telling |
So what did Zelenka say this time in Czech?
But contrary to the title.. Rodney didn't show any grace under pressure at all, hehe.. |
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| Raxor |
Dec 13th 2005, 5:42 PM
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... Group: Moderators Posts: 4,361 Joined: December 26th 2002 From: England, Uk Member No.: 174 Gender: Male |
much better than grace anyway in the end so im happy
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| ShepsGirl |
Dec 13th 2005, 5:49 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: December 13th 2005 From: Newcastle, Nsw, Australia Member No.: 10,670 Gender: Female |
Hewletts acting in this episode was good I thought. Oh, and I absolutely loved the bickering between McKay and Carter! Hehehe... Very funny.
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| UltimateW |
Dec 13th 2005, 7:16 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: June 24th 2003 From: Denmark. Member No.: 1,900 Gender: Male |
Woooow, Carter = HAWT!
 I love Rodneys dirty mind, Iam sure most of us (males anyway) would have the same thoughts, if we had to have Carter as a sidekick in our fantasy, why dress her up so much, tho she was dressed to kill :D The episode wasnt that bad and it opens up a new world, Seaquest coming to Stargate ;) Overall a classic episode well done. |
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| dr_n_tesla |
 Dec 13th 2005, 10:29 PM
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Senior Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 390 Joined: May 6th 2003 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 1,522 Gender: Male |
Great episode!!!
Sure beats the hell out of a tank top!! :D Funny she was in pink. Also answers the question regarding the Puddle Jumper's shield which the wraith in ep 1x12 The Defiant One managed to raise. The field emitters of Alterran design must be able to perform both functions, so in order to have both functions active at the same time, they would require two field generators/emitter sets and a much larger power supply. I wonder if they will ever get to the point of retrofitting such a system to the Big D. Also from this we now know that a Puddle Jumper's power supply is not limitless and can be drained. From this we may assume that they can be recharged in the Jumper Bay if they are able to continuously use/cycle through at least 8 Puddle Jumpers this far into the series. Hmmm, loved seeing the Leviathan swim overhead. Makes you wonder if they really are protectors of the Alterrans/Ancients of Atlantis or what the biblical passages say they are. (Assuming that was a Leviathan in the show). This post has been edited by dr_n_tesla: Dec 14th 2005, 7:14 AM |
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| Ghostdraconi |
Dec 14th 2005, 1:08 AM
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QUOTE(CrazySac @ Dec 13th 2005, 9:55 AM) Is it me or the makeup artist did a horrible job on Mckays forhead, I kept seeing the bandaid looking skin where his bruise was . I dont know why but it was annoying, you could make out the shape of it so you knew it was fake .  I think the bandaid looking skin was actually a bandaid. If you look at the earlier parts of the show you can see it missing. |
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| ShepsGirl |
Dec 14th 2005, 2:26 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: December 13th 2005 From: Newcastle, Nsw, Australia Member No.: 10,670 Gender: Female |
QUOTE I think the bandaid looking skin was actually a bandaid. If you look at the earlier parts of the show you can see it missing. Yeah, He definately put on a bandaid. If you watch the episode, at 7 minutes 35 seconds, at the being of the scene where he figures out how many atmospheres of pressure the puddle jumper is under, you see him finishing putting the bandaid on. |
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| hobo_joe20 |
Dec 14th 2005, 3:51 AM
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Brigadier General  Group: Members Posts: 2,357 Joined: May 13th 2005 From: Guelph, Ontario Member No.: 9,055 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(CrazySac @ Dec 13th 2005, 9:55 AM) Is it me or the makeup artist did a horrible job on Mckays forhead, I kept seeing the bandaid looking skin where his bruise was . I dont know why but it was annoying, you could make out the shape of it so you knew it was fake . Believe it or not, but they actually have bandaids that almost look skin-like. And its not like MacKay would have healed that quickly ... so bandaid it is. At least he knows basic first aid :) Great episode though. David Hewett did a fantastic job in this one. Maybe in future episodes MacKay will be a little calmer, now that he has experienced a personal helplessness and might let others actually get credit for their work  |
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| UltimateW |
Dec 14th 2005, 4:48 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: June 24th 2003 From: Denmark. Member No.: 1,900 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(hobo_joe20 @ Dec 14th 2005, 3:51 AM) Maybe in future episodes MacKay will be a little calmer, now that he has experienced a personal helplessness and might let others actually get credit for their work Yes and elephants will fly. :D Ahh well maybe a little, but I would not expect him to change to much, perhaps he will have better luck with Sam, the next time they meet for real ;) This post has been edited by UltimateW: Dec 14th 2005, 4:51 AM |
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| Hazaa3000 |
Dec 14th 2005, 7:50 AM
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First Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 799 Joined: February 3rd 2004 From: SG 1 HQ, UK Member No.: 3,412 Gender: Male |
I feel this episode was a big set up as in the sense that now the Jumpers can go underwater, we will see more 'action' if you know what I mean.
Can wraith darts work under water too? Imagine the battle! Good episode, funny to see Carter, was well played. Loved the bit where there kissing and Sam is like, "you do not what you're doing ..." lol. Classic. |
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| hobo_joe20 |
Dec 14th 2005, 10:44 AM
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Brigadier General Group: Members Posts: 2,357 Joined: May 13th 2005 From: Guelph, Ontario Member No.: 9,055 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(UltimateW @ Dec 14th 2005, 4:48 AM) Yes and elephants will fly. :D You mean they don't?? Dammit! and here I was, thinking they could.  However, I do still expect a change in MacKay, if only for a few episodes and then only minor changes. There's no way someone could go through that and NOT change somehow. |
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| Sibylle |
Dec 14th 2005, 11:47 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: December 13th 2005 Member No.: 10,668 Gender: Male |
Does anyone thinks there is a option o Carter not being te creation of Rodney's own mind?
The moment i saw her I began thinking of the possibility's of help of some sort from the ancients, or mayb asgard/nox who are observing in the background while no-one knows.......... I think it would be great to find out that Carter was help from someone, mayb even the creature who help Sheppard find Rodney, as was said before the creature could be a potector or servant of the ancients....... I love the idea :D (and Carter swimming around while Rodney is stressing out ;)) |
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| Auntie Em! |
Dec 14th 2005, 11:54 AM
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Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
No Joe Mallozzi said it was all in McKay's mind. No intervention from the ancients.
Though, is an interesting ideal. Especially the ideal about the creature. Maybe they are intelligent creatures and offered telepathic help using a figure in McKay's own mind. Carter. OH OH that is an intriguing ideal Sibylle the more I think about it. |
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| Proton911 |
 Dec 14th 2005, 2:29 PM
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Staff Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: December 1st 2002 From: Russia $-) Russian Stargate control center! Member No.: 27 Gender: Male |
Well this episode are rules!
Heh Amanda very hot ;-) Mackey he rules too, nice..... |
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| jetsetter |
Dec 14th 2005, 8:34 PM
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Chief Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 450 Joined: October 26th 2003 From: Northern California Member No.: 2,618 Gender: Male |
That was the best part of the episode. I also made some screencaps with the intention of posting them here but I guess I will just make an animation.
Made it slower and fixed the border This post has been edited by jetsetter: Dec 14th 2005, 8:36 PM |
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| ha'tak |
Dec 15th 2005, 1:24 AM
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Lieutenant Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,328 Joined: June 8th 2005 From: Northwest of Chicago, Illinois Member No.: 9,229 Gender: Male |
loved this EP I was cracking up nearly every time McKay was second guessing himself
plust how much do you want to bet that the littel cloak--> sheild sheild--> cloak thing wont be used agian |
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| AtheneBelle |
Dec 16th 2005, 10:20 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: January 11th 2005 Member No.: 7,548 Gender: Female |
Am I the only one that noticed that his subconcious mind left Sam on the PJ that he was rescued from? Think it's symbolic of finally letting her go? I also get the idea that if his parents hadn't been so down on him he might have been a different enough person for Sam to have taken a shine to him.
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| Sibylle |
Dec 16th 2005, 3:11 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: December 13th 2005 Member No.: 10,668 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(AtheneBelle @ Dec 16th 2005, 4:20 PM) Am I the only one that noticed that his subconcious mind left Sam on the PJ that he was rescued from? Think it's symbolic of finally letting her go? I also get the idea that if his parents hadn't been so down on him he might have been a different enough person for Sam to have taken a shine to him. Sam must be with Jack :D 2 bad the season isn't handeling with major events, like SG-1 in season 8. I'm finding it quite stupid that some things from earlier episodes aren't used trueouth the series. Like the personal shield device found by Rodney in the beginning, or transporters from the Asgard beeing installed on the ancient base (at least untill they figure out how the ancient stuff works), or asgard sensors......... Quest for the zpm's seems to be stopped, for the ancients used them for quite a lot...i would suggest stealing it from the Geni (or what race was it tat had one?) ;) aaah well, not the topic nor the time.....let it be :P |
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| Eryin Win |
Dec 16th 2005, 5:44 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: December 7th 2005 Member No.: 10,636 Gender: Male |
i love girls, being wet, wet tshirts.. i love seeing carter wetshirted even more.
Average ep, an ancient whale, how nice they didnt go extinct... |
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