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post Jul 16th 2005, 1:22 AM
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Season 2, Episode 2 - The Intruder
Air Dates - US: July 22 2005, Canada: July 25 2005

The Daedalus is infected by a Wraith computer virus, while members of the expedition hope to return to Earth.

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post Jul 22nd 2005, 10:51 PM
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I really enjoyed this episode, weir and her husband apparently devorce that opens for shipping with wier and whoever she wants to be with, this episode was great and the asgaurd was halarious.
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post Jul 22nd 2005, 11:02 PM
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Wow a whole month went by and Sheppard's now a colonel.
I wish we could have seen more of them on earth instead of just flashbacks. Like where was Daniel I now hee would've like to go back with them or was that the time he was talking about last episode. I get confused when the two series timelines don't really match.

Anyway great episode. It seemed a bit like a copycat of the SG-1 episode Entity which McKay even mentioned but then with the sort of twist at the end was nice when Sheppard got to be hero and destroy the other ship and get rid of the virus finally. And I'm glad that Weir doesn't have to worry about Simon so now she can go for some cool alien or something altough it looks like her and Sheppard may like each other but I hope not.

The scene with McKay and the one guy that ended up dying when he was trapped in the airlock that then opened seemed familiar. When McKay, poor guy, was standing there helpless to save him was like in the movie The Core. But it was still a really cool idea I was so caught up in the moment which is crucial to any episode wink.gif .

Is Colonel Caldwell a full colonel or the same as Sheppard a Lt. because I remember Weir saying she wanted Sheppard as senior military guy so they should promote him. So now who's in charge?
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post Jul 22nd 2005, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(chelstia @ Jul 22nd 2005, 10:02 PM)
Wow a whole month went by and Sheppard's now a colonel.

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Yeah. It took Carter, what? 8 years? whistling.gif
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post Jul 22nd 2005, 11:19 PM
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I guess to be fair to Carter she started as a Captain so its more like what five years?
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post Jul 22nd 2005, 11:26 PM
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Well lets see Lt. Col. Sheppard is only a Lt. Col. and Caldwell is a full Col. so technically it would be Caldwell, but if prior orders from Stargate Command dictate so then Sheppard could be in military command and Caldwell is simply along for the ride with his giant ass ship which look much better than Prometheus haha o well whatever...
LoL that Asguard totally wins, man that alien is absolutly hillarious along with Sheppard was great
Haha did anyone else notice that the dude who died in the airlock was one of the Tok'Ra from SG-1 ill try and find the episode later but its the one where the Tok'Ra had to abandon their base and come to the Alpha site with the Rebel Jaffa floating around. That guy was the Tok'Ra in charge of base security before they had to abondon their base...maybe its just me

the episode was Season 6 Episode 9 Allegiance

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QUOTE(stargate_addict @ Jul 22nd 2005, 11:51 PM)
I really enjoyed this episode, weir and her husband apparently devorce that opens for shipping with wier and whoever she wants to be with, this episode was great and the asgaurd was halarious.
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It seems pretty clear that they were never married at all.

I thought this episode didn't have quite the same spark as Siege III. It seemed like it, too, had a virus and was stuck in a loop. Two red-shirters killed. Two events where there was a moment of doubt whether Sheppard was dead or alive. Two camera pans to Weir's face during those moments. Two run-ins between Caldwell and Weir. Three reboots of the Daedalus computer systems to get rid of the virus. I would have preferred the writing to be a little more linear than the circular yarn it turned out to be.

There were some nice moments though and Hermiod is hysterical. I hope he sticks around. He's quickly developing into one of my favorite characters. I did find the flashbacks to their Earth time interesting. There was a lot of subtext going on there. It helps to flesh the characters out when they're interacting in the familiar territory of Earth and there is some sense of normalcy.
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post Jul 22nd 2005, 11:34 PM
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Well this episode helped explain a lot of questions I had about the previous Atlantis and SG-1 episodes... Cause episode 1 of SG-1 was months after the fight Atlantis had with the wraith in Seige 1,2,&3... First episode of SG-1 they were talkin about the Daedelus leaving in 12 hours...and Daniel was going... so knowing Seige part 3 had not happened yet (as far as the show) I thought it was the first trip to pegasus galaxy.. when they took the ZPM... but.. u find out.. after this episode.. that it was in fact.. after Atlantis team had gated home... and the Daedelus made its way back to Earth.. then to head back... taking 18 days each way... So first episodes of these two seasons.. were in different timelines as far as the show goes... and now they have caught up in episodes 2. That explains.. the time Teal'c has been away from SGC.... the time of O'Neil retiring and already having a replacement who is up to date and organized already..

I loved the asgard cursing under his breathe like in the first episode.. and how Sheppard and him didnt seem to like each other and were having a staring contest lol...
Sheppard "Why they have to be naked?"

Sheppard when fighting in the X-302 against the computer ran X-302... does the slam of the brakes move..that seemed stripped from the movie Top Gun..
Dr Weir "Nice move"
Asguard: "Indeed"

McKay: "Crap!"
Asguard: "Crap indeed!"

We see Dr Weir stocked up on her makeup kit.. First time we've seen her with make up on really..

Im glad Simon didnt choose to come... I already thought it was stupid having him as a character on Atlantis in season one.. I dont like seeing actors playing major characters being used again as someone else important.

The black guy that got sucked out into space that McKay was trying to save. Who was he? Was he another actor that has been recycled? He looked so familiar.. was he a Jaffa on SG-1?

Now after all the computers in the X-302's have been taken out... and the beacon Sheppard shot off.. that also controls some of the beaming functions... is the big D gonna have to go straight back to earth as soon as they get to Atlantis to make repairs?? or do they have equipment on there to fix stuff like that and replace...

Congradulations to Sheppard.. he much deserved the promotion I think... Ya it was quick... a lot quicker than Carter getting it.. But.. you gotta understand they are in totally different situations... Its just not probamatic of a Major leading a huge force of men...and he is the best qualified to lead em...given his experience there...so he needed the promotion... much better him being in charge than someone else. But.. I kinda always thought there should be a general there for times of military intervention... especially since the top ranking officer is on the first team that travels into danger.

McKay cracked me up when he tried to make himself as small as he could when they were attempting to beam him and Sheppard to the cargo bay.. he's such a puss..but funny as hell

Also very curious to the report Weir gets of the latest systems online at Atlantis since the ZPM is in placed that Zelinka gives her...

Edit:: I just read this.. it was posted as I was posting... I knew I recognized that guy...!!

QUOTE(prometheus @ Jul 22nd 2005, 11:26 PM)
Haha did anyone else notice that the dude who died in the airlock was one of the Tok'Ra from SG-1 ill try and find the episode later but its the one where the Tok'Ra had to abandon their base and come to the Alpha site with the Rebel Jaffa floating around. That guy was the Tok'Ra in charge of base security before they had to abondon their base...maybe its just me

the episode was Season 6 Episode 9 Allegiance
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post Jul 22nd 2005, 11:53 PM
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Nutshell: too emotional for my taste. I also hope the special effects don't drain the budget for later episodes.

QUOTE(NemesisDesignz @ Jul 22nd 2005, 11:34 PM)
I loved the asgard cursing under his breathe like in the first episode.. and how Sheppard and him didnt seem to like each other and were having a staring contest lol... 
Sheppard "Why they have to be naked?"
Yea, those were some of the best scenes in the episode. biggrin.gif

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Sheppard when fighting in the X-302 against the computer ran X-302... does the slam of the brakes move..that seemed stripped from the movie Top Gun..
Actually, slamming the brakes would've been my first thought.

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McKay: "Crap!"
Asguard:  "Crap indeed!"
Hermoid should be classified as "comic relief," not "Asgard technician."
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post Jul 23rd 2005, 12:47 AM
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Good episode, nasty virus..
I had one of those you know..
the ones that are impossible to remove I mean smile.gif
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post Jul 23rd 2005, 2:04 AM
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QUOTE(NemesisDesignz @ Jul 22nd 2005, 11:34 PM)
Edit::  I just read this.. it was posted as I was posting... I knew I recognized that guy...!!
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wOOt im not crazy!!! hahaha yeah i thought i recognized him before but that different voice and the whining...ooo so tricky lol
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post Jul 23rd 2005, 2:32 AM
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Great EP. They should have had firewalls in place already though. They have read the SG-1 mission reports. You'd think they would learn a thing or two.
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post Jul 23rd 2005, 6:38 AM
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Enjoyed this episode... couldn't quite follow at the start. Seemed that a month or so has passed by since last time. At first I was wondering what had happened but the flashbacks gave me some insight. It was a bit predictable that the virus would survive the reboot though smile.gif

8/10.
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OMG What a superb episode!
The directors of both SG-1 and SG-Atlantis have proven themselves again!
This seasons are just begining and they are rocking!

A 9/10! cool.gif

BTW:I don't think that they will ever be able to entirely eliminate either the wraith or the reps. Being sentient plague like beings.
Anymore than we have been able to rid ourselves of roaches....
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QUOTE(Ion'noi @ Jul 23rd 2005, 2:32 AM)
Great EP.  They should have had firewalls in place already though.  They have  read the SG-1 mission reports.  You'd think they would learn a thing or two.
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Ya that was my thoughts as well.. but thoughts added onto that... they should have the BEST firewalls and protection anyways...given this ship's abilities and top secretness.. maybe they did have firewalls..but the wraith got past em... they're probably smarter than the cylons in that previous episode the other day of (BSG)
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post Jul 23rd 2005, 2:34 PM
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Why did he need a promotion?
In World War Two we had Majors leading entire batallions.
Just shows the Army's Majors are better I guess. tongue.gif
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post Jul 23rd 2005, 2:38 PM
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QUOTE(NemesisDesignz @ Jul 22nd 2005, 9:34 PM)
I loved the asgard cursing under his breathe like in the first episode.. and how Sheppard and him didnt seem to like each other and were having a staring contest lol...?
Sheppard "Why they have to be naked?"

Sheppard when fighting in the X-302 against the computer ran X-302... does the slam of the brakes move..that seemed stripped from the movie Top Gun..
Dr Weir "Nice move"
Asguard:? "Indeed"

McKay: "Crap!"
Asguard:? "Crap indeed!

Im glad Simon didnt choose to come... I already thought it was stupid having him as a character on Atlantis in season one..? I dont like seeing actors playing major characters being used again as someone else important.


blink.gif Wow...you basically stripped me of everything I was going to post on Nemesis'!

All I can say is that I have been intrigued with Hermod (original spelling of the name but pronounced as this spelling: Hermiod) since I first heard that the producers were going to have an Asgard onboard the Daedalus. smile.gif

Those lines are unforgetable. ^ Cursing under his breathe in Asgard will be a trait of his from now on...unfortunately I have found nothing about him having a good role in the episodes to come as of yet. sad.gif I do hope the writers will give him a good role here... *Ya hear that guys, hint, hint!*

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I can't agree with you more about Simon being on the show...I don't mind non-major characters being used again as in the episode, "Childhood's End" with:
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Actor Courtenay J. Stevens, who plays the village leader Keras, originally portrayed Lt. Elliot in three episodes of Stargate SG-1 ("Proving Ground," "Summit" and "Last Stand"). --GateWorld


However, with Simon I was really glad that they didn't add him... *phew*

I found something on GateWorld about the Asgard appearing on SG-1/SG-A this year...
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--Aquila the Ancient

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QUOTE(NemesisDesignz @ Jul 23rd 2005, 6:34 AM)
We see Dr Weir stocked up on her makeup kit.. First time we've seen her with make up on really..
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Yes I noticed this too. Thinks she is starting to look a bit hot:) Could be fun with some action between her and Sheppard
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A woman has to have lots of makeup to be hot? And to be able to score some action? blink.gif

I thought Weir looked just fine the way she was.
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This ep was vary good from the VFX to the proformance given by the cast
the story was a ''rehash '' of an sg1 ep ''Entity'' but they did a good job changing the
story I only hope this does not become part of Atlantis line up .Taking old sg1 ep and giving them the Atlantis spin . And belive me they done it a few times before
1 Home - Gamekeeper
2 The Siege - The enemy within
But over all vary good ep from the NAKED ASGUARD biggrin.gif to the beem me up scotty crying.gif all vary well done .I enjoyed Atlantis
more than SG1 this week and I hope that they keep up the good work.

9/10
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those flashbacks sucked but it still was a good episode
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Jul 23rd 2005, 11:59 PM)
A woman has to have lots of makeup to be hot? And to be able to score some action? blink.gif

I thought Weir looked just fine the way she was.
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No of course not. Weir is a pretty lady. But the makeup didn't exactly make her look worse. She wouldn't be able to run 2 times around my bed. *LOL*
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This episode not only sucks and repetitive but there is a flaw in the story.

This story is really an episode on the "Monkey" virus that has been around for years in the internet, in which the virus jumps to memory, make itself a copy, while you clean out your hard drive.

It is repetitive for the script to show the removal of that virus for the 3rd time, it shows a lack of material. Basically, they showed a typical night of IT professional cleaning out virus over and over again. But to make things worse, there is a serious flaw in that story:

Flaw: If the virus was able to jump from the main computer to that flying glider, why wouldn't the virus in that "Shot-Down Glider" be able to jump to the glider that Sheppard was flying?
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QUOTE(Atlantians @ Jul 23rd 2005, 3:34 PM)
Why did he need a promotion?
In World War Two we had Majors leading entire batallions.
Just shows the Army's Majors are better I guess. tongue.gif

Let's reflect.

Batallion = small
Base = big
Therefore, base = mroe responsibility than a batallion.
Add to this the fact that many more batallions exist in war time than normal "peace" time, therefore more leaders are needed.
Just thougt I'd remind you of this smile.gif

Pretty decent episode. Got a little repetitive ... 2 shutdowns? I figured they would fine something else to do to get rid of it completely. At least this virus didn't take over a person's body.

Also, I noticed Rainbox Sun Franks name in the credits. Is this going ot be standard procedure? Or was it just because he was in the "previously on stargate atlantis" thing.

This season is shaping up to be pretty good, let's just hope they can keep the ball rolling.

"TPTB, you have the ball"
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