I agree with Carter-Hot, I enjoy how they mix the 18th century with the modern style. It's like P-90 v.s. swords. That's why I watch Stargate. Especially Season 2 of SGA and Season 9 of SG-1. I think the writers are going more towards that point, so if you're not into the 18th century stuff. This show might not be for you. Cause SG-1 is changing to all that European ancient mythology stuff, no more Egyptian mythology. Atlantis is going to have some of that European Ancient Mythology. I'm guessing when they don't have anymore ideas for Atlantis, they'll use that European Ancient Mythology to start a new storyline.

Damn, where in this episode did they have to reload any drones?? The drones just sit there and when someone activates them they fly through an opening in the city and destroy the target. They dont need to be put into any cannon or launcher. Remember Rising Part one, Becket sits in the chair and a drone suddenly activates and flies off by itself.
My guess is that there are three rooms like that in Atalntis (in Siege part 2 there are three exit points where the drones fly out of).

I think those rooms are under those openings. The drones are probably stored like that to avoid one drone from crashing into another on its "take off".
Overall i think this episode was average. Hey better than nothing.

How they went about getting the drones for Atlantis is just bogus. Geeeze they just screwed up so badly. I mean come on. Suddenly they find a duplicate Atlantis with all the same weakness, buried in the ground (which also does not make sense) and that has protected the surrounding country side but for some reason the Wraith just leave it alone.

It is just beyond stupid.

They don't just leave it alone, they probably sent scout or culling ships and such there but they were shot down.

Anyway I think this episode was alright, and to be honest I had been dissapointed with the past few, they seemed really miscelaneous and not very enjoyable. This one however had a little bit of intrigue to it, and some unexpected.

I do find it a bit odd that it's said to be a complete replica of atlantis though. Atlantis was meant to be like.. their main big hope, their centre, their heart, yet.. to have a second one seems so far fetched. Also it does really make me wonder how they're going to keep that safe and out of wraith hands because they've barely explored atlantis itself, so to have a replica just as big, there could be who knows what secrets down there that could perhaps help the wrath if the alantis team doesn't get to it first.

So I suppose it's part bad that they've opened that box so to speak, but I didn't think of that while watching and I did enjoy it. Also there is some potential for some interesting stories stemming from it.

I liked this episode better than the last one. At least there was no daydreaming excuse to get Carter half naked.

The idea of there being a second Atlantis is hard to explain though. The whole idea I thought was that the Ancients put all their time and effort into building their home city. This totally cheapens it now that we know there are at least two of them.

Maybe the Ancients used cityships like Atlantis to colonize other worlds. They could have had Atlantis as their capital city while other similar cityships went from world to world to help colonize the galexy.

I think the Ancients were in the middle of constructing another city to be launched to another galaxy, due to the over-whelming Wraith threat. But it was incomplete, with only the central tower being the strongest and safest of the entire city complex.

So that may explain why the city was prone to "earthquakes" (instability of the internal infrastructure of the peers), also the fact that the city has remained where it has (on the ground) for the past 10,000 years, so vegetation could have damaged the incomplete parts of the city.

Atlantis was fortunate that it was situtated on Earth on the now-Antarctica location and then submerged under the ocean (once arived and settled in the Pegasus Galaxy) then risen up (present day).

Another member asked why the gate wasn't in the central tower, maybe again the city was incomplete, so no major control systems were installed, just the main command centre (where McKay augmented the ZPM), the weapons, the engines and the control chair, in fear the Wraith does begin to attack the city.

Another member also wanted to know why the Wraith didn't besiege and constantly attacked this city, that is a good question, why didn't they? The Wraith could seize that city and take the technology but then, the Wraith may not be able to detect the city and that whenever the Wraith does come, in cruisers or darts, they were always shot down, or they may have found out that the city has nothing they need, it was just a hollow skin.









This post has been edited by Carter-Hot: Dec 22nd 2005, 5:43 AM

But they said the Wraith knew of the planet and had attacked in the past. The Wraith surrounded and atacked never ending for 100 years the Atlantis city. So why leave this one alone? It was not empty Carter-Hot it is full of drones.

But it may have been incomplete.

They had a lot of drones but the Wraith don't use drones, and it could be a hollow city full of drones, the Wraith just went onto Atlantis, for a full working city. Besides the Wraith, 10,000 years ago just wanted to drive the Ancients out.

Now they're wanting the city but since the Wraith are becoming more territorial, they might have forgotten about this planet.




This post has been edited by Carter-Hot: Dec 22nd 2005, 8:30 AM

Can anyone post picks of the "Drone Room"?

Basically this... lol

Remember, the Wraith rn't after Atlantis now (or were when they knew it still existed) All they want is the control crystal that lets a DHD dial an 8th chevron (in other words to get to Earth)....for new vast feeding grounds.

This post has been edited by SomeEvilGuy: Dec 22nd 2005, 2:41 PM

Just look at this... Imagine how insane amount of storage space it takes to store
the amount of drones Jack fired at Anubis fleet... (even if all the drones would be
stored as tightly as possible it would propably still take cubic kilometers of space
but when they are stored as loosely as in that screen... huh huh...)

Maybe that storaget area was unfinished when the City was abandoned and they ever had time to efficiently store them?

I wish.

as i remember in that episode, we where told that there only where a few drones back "in the buffer", maby a large ammount of the drones are stored in a kinda energtic state in a buffer when they are about to be fired... just a thought.. the drones we saw where kinda "extra rounds"..... just a tought... or maby its different fireing systems on earth and atlantis then the tower... maby the tower is of an older version....

It can't be older. Maybe it is unfinished?

Also i'd like to point out that in the "The Siege Part 3", McKay needed to power the chair with that enhanced naqueda reactor they brought from earth, inorder to see how many drones were left in Atlantis.

I think this was a temporary Way of storing drones because the "wine Racks" that hold the drones look to me like they are portable and like Atlantians said Maybe that storaget area was unfinished when the City was abandoned and they ever had time to efficiently store them

just think about it. do u think a race as smart as ancients built and stored such powerful weapons like they did there.

This post has been edited by beat-boxing rulez: Dec 23rd 2005, 5:43 AM

You just think about it.! Do YOU really think a race as advanced as Ancients would
even build or store projectiles for projectile weapons ?? When they clearly have the
ability to convert energy into matter ?? They could just create a device which drains
some power from ZPM and converts it into fully functional Drones when ever they
need them...

But no no... Ancients blacksmiths just forge them in their workshops and then they
propably carry them by hand in to those wine-cellars... (and then when the wraiths
attack their weapon fires them soo fast that the cellars are empty in few minutes
and then they again need to spend few years to fill it back up...)

This post has been edited by ALIEN_JL: Dec 23rd 2005, 6:57 AM

Maybe when they create these Ancient drones, they come in a wine rack that have to be transferred to a main storage area but for reason they never got transferred.





This post has been edited by Carter-Hot: Dec 23rd 2005, 7:28 AM

Well, atlantis/replica atlantis are big places. Could easily accomodate numerous pod-decks. Also I'd like to think the sparseness is for allowing a takeoff trajectory. Like, think about a plane needing a runway, maybe drones need a short space to move out of to take off and manouver upwards. Now you'd think with them as advanced as they are, they'd be able to just.. hover out and up.. but maybe they made cut-backs on that to preserve power or some such.

It does seem quite an inneficient way to store them, and did anybody notice the lack of gel on the chair

i've just seen this episode and i agree that this was a weak episode. the only thing interesting in this was that there is at least one other 'atlantis'. it's good to see that they've refueled the drones and replaced the destroyed PJs.

one thing of note in this episode was when mackay is standing over the hole you see something move across screen behind the trees, though you can't make out what it is it looked shiny.

dr lee can u post a screen shot or give the time it happened, i just went over that seen and i didnt see anything.

dave