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post Dec 24th 2005, 12:50 PM
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i'll try but it may take me a few days. it is literally a two second thing.

oops.gif i've just gone and looked at that scene again and all i can see moving behind rodney is a butterfly oops.gif

i'm going mad! crying.gif soz

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post Dec 24th 2005, 2:35 PM
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^^^I realise this may be a stupid and off topic question but, Where does everyone get those character smilies from?
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post Dec 24th 2005, 3:44 PM
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Could somone please post more screenies of the Drone Chamber.
Thanks.
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post Dec 24th 2005, 3:54 PM
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QUOTE(Atlantians @ Dec 24th 2005, 8:44 PM)
Could somone please post more screenies of the Drone Chamber.
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That's the only shot you get to see.
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post Dec 24th 2005, 4:54 PM
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Seriously? That sucks.
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still a nice pic anywya
J+P episiodes generally suck as a rule

this is no execption
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post Dec 25th 2005, 6:09 AM
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QUOTE(Source @ Dec 24th 2005, 10:35 PM)
^^^I realise this may be a stupid and off topic question but, Where does everyone get those character smilies from?
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When you write a post there's a list of smilies on your left and under them is a text: Show All. That's where the best stuff hides smile.gif

About the episode, my brothers saw it before me and they really liked it. Hearing their excited comments I was really expecting to see something cool but compared to the previous 3 or 4 episodes of Atlantis this really wasn't anything special.

The only interesting and non-predictable thing was the Atlantis city v.2.0. under the ground.
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post Dec 25th 2005, 9:34 AM
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QUOTE(Ilzy @ Dec 25th 2005, 12:09 PM)
When you write a post there's a list of smilies on your left and under them is a text: Show All. That's where the best stuff hides  smile.gif

About the episode, my brothers saw it before me and they really liked it. Hearing their excited comments I was really expecting to see something cool but compared to the previous 3 or 4 episodes of Atlantis this really wasn't anything special.

The only interesting and non-predictable thing was the Atlantis city v.2.0. under the ground.
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The episode was quite good imho...

some nice effects, nice character development..

But the best part is that this episode contributes a great thing to the main story!
Now they have drones! they know the ancients build other city's!!!! imagine the possibility to fly one of those things back to earth and do research on it!

P.E. the episode "Grace under pressure" was nice, but pure for character development, no further contribution....
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post Dec 25th 2005, 1:24 PM
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QUOTE(Source @ Dec 24th 2005, 1:35 PM)
^^^I realise this may be a stupid and off topic question but, Where does everyone get those character smilies from?
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they were created by Deus Wrath and can easily be found in the show all section when you post

click the show all link and all the sites emoticons are there including the characters
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post Dec 26th 2005, 8:38 AM
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QUOTE(hobo_joe20 @ Dec 20th 2005, 7:46 PM)
I'll agree that this episode sucked.  Good concept, bad followthrough.  Another "Atlantis" - now its something else for them to explain. 

I think the only good thing that came out of this one was that we now have drones.


i agree comletely. for me it was the worst ep from season 2. i had to force myself to watch it to the end dry.gif ...but now they have new drones and PJ
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This episode is so depressing I cannot bare to continue commenting.



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post Dec 27th 2005, 6:17 AM
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they tok ships and drones but did they any ZPM? it was i few left =)
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post Dec 27th 2005, 8:57 AM
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the ZPM was almos completley depleted when they arrived.

if i remember correctly (i watched it a couple of days ago) they depleted it fully when they saved the village.
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post Dec 27th 2005, 9:05 AM
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QUOTE(dr lee @ Dec 27th 2005, 4:57 PM)
the ZPM was almos completley depleted when they arrived.

if i remember correctly (i watched it a couple of days ago) they depleted it fully when they saved the village.
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You're right about that!

It just occured to me that the Atlantis team has left yet another planet completely without protection. There is even no use for any gene-theraphy now without a ZPM. What good is the end of such class-divided society if they lose all the protection they had?

There's no such thing as wraith-alarm so there's not much use of the invitation to run to Atlantis.
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post Dec 27th 2005, 9:58 AM
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I have a disturbing question. Why do they feel they have the right to take resources from the planets they come to? Why should they have some of the drones when those people need them to protect themselves.

Why do they have the right to even contemplate the right to take the ZPM?
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post Dec 27th 2005, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Dec 27th 2005, 5:58 PM)
I have a disturbing question. Why do they feel they have the right to take resources from the planets they come to? Why should they have some of the drones when those people need them to protect themselves.

Why do they have the right to even contemplate the right to take the ZPM?
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Well in this case the drones wouldn't be any good to the natives since their ZPM isn't working anymore... But the overall tendency really is disturbing dry.gif
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post Dec 28th 2005, 7:50 AM
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Well from their perspective, Atlantis is HQ -- they have a better chance of kicking the Wraiths' ass by centralising resources.
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But the Ancients had all of those planets under their control with Atlantis as HQ and the Wraith still kicked their ass's.

We still don't have a way of stopping the Wraith, But we still take resources of any planet even if it leaves them defenceless.
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But the Ancients had all of those planets under their control with Atlantis as HQ and the Wraith still kicked their ass's.

We still don't have a way of stopping the Wraith, But we still take resources of any planet even if it leaves them defenceless.


If u played any strategy you would know how hard is it to defend all your teritory againts max AI cmming from all sides ! ^_^

The way to stop the wraith may be reveiled in later episodes , however leaving drones and P.J in the hands of cavemen is a bit unlogical , so the SGA team traded them with other supplies they could use .
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this is a bit of topic but does anyone know when the next episode is avaliable for download.
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Con that is not allowed on the forum. We do not discuss that in the threads.
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post Dec 30th 2005, 7:19 PM
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I liked this ep a lot...i dont see why everyone hates it.
The wine cellar of drones was cool IMO.
8/10. Better than Grace Under Pressure.
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post Jan 1st 2006, 5:13 PM
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Someone pointed out about the actor stealing between sg1 and sga with the lord protector... well, i guess you didnt notice the many others so far???

The dude from taylor's people / village, the one who challenges wier against blowing up atlantis during 'The Siege', was the same actor as the dude from SG1 season 7, Forsaken.

The guy who was the leader of the kid planet, was the same actor as a Lt. who became host to lantesh in his last hours.

Theres more, but i cant remember. Also you have other actors spotted but not with a full role, eg. the guy who plays the prior who turned mr. Jaffa leader (bad with names, i am) and was also another character from earlier in SG1.


But back to the ep...

I wonder what happened to whats left of the city, and why it didnt pop up on the 'ZPM HERE' list, and also in the database.

It makes u ask how many more like atlantis were there, and how many more remain.

We also have a near full ZPM in Atlantis, yes? Well, why the hell dont they just fly it back to the milky way and plonk it on the moon or something?
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The military-science part of this ep just sucked. Bare with me for a second on a drone fire-destroy sequence.

We have the physical part of the drone, the big honkin` glowy torpedo. We've all seen the power of a drone, so no argue there. We have a launching chair, a launching shaft, a little dance around the tower (that was absolutely ... farfetched, i mean it wouldn't scary anyone and a lot of time had been lost for nothing), and away they go.

Next the ZPM gets depleted and the drones fall from the sky with a STUPID sound. Boing, boing. :dooorkish:

As i said, this is a total nonsense from the military point of view. The moment the drones went boing-boing, i recalled the scene where the PJ takes out two darts and heads for the gate, in mid season 1. Think about this, you have 3 PJs (or 3 Ancient Fighters) engaging lets say a carrier. All 3 PJs have darts on their tail, but the main target is the carrier. One of the PJs manages to lock on the carrier and launches 3 drones. The dart that was after that PJ fires and destroys the PJ. What will happen to the drones? Remember the boing boing sound ? :lame:

I mean come on, even we have missiles that once they have locked on a target you cannot make them abort unless you either destroy them, or have the code that was built for that purpose. But never will a locked-on missile disengage if the plane that fired it was to be shot. This is just plain stupid.
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Dec 27th 2005, 4:58 PM) *

I have a disturbing question. Why do they feel they have the right to take resources from the planets they come to? Why should they have some of the drones when those people need them to protect themselves.

Why do they have the right to even contemplate the right to take the ZPM?


Because unlike SG1 Atlantis seems unable\unwilling to comit itself to a moral ground and stick there. They seem to think the best way is trying not to step on anyone's toes, which obviously leads to being ignorant fools? ;) The truth is they have left that planet unprotected - what they were unwilling to do with the Childhood's End planet. Why is it any different, cos these aren't all kids? Hypocrisy. Just like Critical Mass, Poisoning the Well etc, they should decide what's the moral ground they're trying to follow and stay there, have a real agenda like SG1, instead of throwing ideas into the air and then ignore them - or worse, as in this case, make a plot-spin that would leave the question hangin' "cos it just isn't relevant anymore". Sorry, the fact the question is irrelevant (whether it's a tortured fainted guy or a ZPM out of power) doesn't mean the question doesn't still exist.

The episode per-se wasn't all that bad, light hearted buzzing entertainment without real substance. Which is sad in itself cos the idea of another Atlantis could have been used so much better :| Can Sheppard stop getting the girl, tho. Another once or twice and even the joke about "got the girl"\ Sheppard being Kirk won't be able to make up for it.

Oh, and Comtraya! :D
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