Possessed Sheppard took his P90 headed off to Power Room, incapacitated 2 marines, deactivated power and shot at the control panel where the ZPM was located. Not only did it cut off main power but it will buy more time for Sheppard to hunt Weir down, and also disrupt primary and secondary systems.

Hours later, McKay managed to get internal primary systems back online. Hence, they weren't able to contact the Daedalus.

This post has been edited by Carter-Hot: Jan 5th 2006, 10:16 AM

What did you want? That Ronan gets killed? And is it so impossible that only one bullet hits a moving target?

Nowadays they use water mist systems, works kind of like sprinklers, but are more effective and doesn't damage the building as much.

In places they can't use water, they use INERGEN fire supression systems, which you can breathe in. We use it in the server rooms in the Joint Warfare Center mountain complex where I work.

This post has been edited by Zoidman: Jan 5th 2006, 2:17 PM

I want to make a correction to my original post, they didn't installed the Halon system in their quarters, but in their hazmat storage, and "dr Weir" found a way to link this system to the life support one...so, my (little) mistake

given that the P90 fire 15 rounds a second that one bullet would be followed by 3-4 more

It is very hard to hit a moving target.

Yea i enjoyed the episode but only once i ignored the manyplot holes. The comedy aspect was a nice relief from the action but another plot hole was surely when Weir said something along the lines of "I want to take care of sheppard myself", surely that would raise some alarms with the Guards?

It was a nice plot twist having them at war with one another, really wasnt expecting that would like to see more of that kind of writing in future episodes.

But again, why didnt Ronan just take Sheppard back to the gate room, he said he was just trying to stay alive and surely they could of protected him?

Maybe in that surgery scene, Beckett actually removed3 other bullets but the last one was a little more difficult to locate.

My first idea was to shut out Sheppard and Weird from the computer and then do a lockdown, and use the scanners to see where they where.........

stupid episode, these should be the elite o the human race, well i could do better.

I found this episode really good for what it was, even though it had quite alot of technical gaps in it. The undeactivated codes, Ronan trusting Sheppard....all of these just seemed like they were blatantly needed for plot reasons, and had no real bearing on what would have acctually happend.
I thought Teyla did really well, and one of my favorite parts had to be when Weir was telling her to kill him. I really thought she was going to have to do it, but she most likely would have just shot him in an unfatal posistion and he would have played dead or something.

i enjoyed this episode. Season two is turning out to be more exciting than season 1.

Thalen was too much like Sheppard for my liking, but it was cool to see wier kicking butt. Good acting on TH's part. Hardly anyones mentioned the second war so far. Mackay and Caldwell were at it hammer and tongs throughout the episode, The best bit being Mackays 'humph' at seeing Caldwell.

Did anyone else think that Caldwell showed a rather cruel sense of humour at the end by revealing 'the kiss'incident, i laughed at the reactions of the rest of the room and their uncomfortableness (is that a word??).

Three bullets would have killed him. The 5.56 x45mmNATO that most military arms today use functions similarly to the 5.7x28mm that the FN-P90 uses.

The bullets would shatter when they hit the body... one bullet could have killed Ronan easily.
Three from a P90 in the same area... he aint living unless they were very minor wounds.

Blood loss, tissue trauma, shock, ect ect ect would all easily have killed him.

Auntie Em could go into more detail because of her medical familiarity.

I wouldn't call it cruel... That's just his style of joking and suited the moment perfectly. Caldwell has the tough military guy persona, this joke was the only way he could have said anything about the kiss (and the end of episode just screamed that someone says it out loud ).

forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but does anyone else have a problem with

also colour me stupid but where did the little stun guns come from? i remember the big wraith stunners but i dont remember the little ones

I'm surprised to read that so many people liked this episode. It was among the worst Stargate episodes. Then again, it might just be me. I'll keep watching SGA, but I have to steel myself to stand Weir's leadership style, and Sheppard's one liners (Jack O'Neill, he is not).

The main thing that bothered me about the episode is that they allowed their highest ranking officer be taken over by an alien entity. I'm quite happy to see some action between John and Elizabeth, but come on, have some common sense!

At least Carson got it right and the imprinting was only temporary. Now we can go back to John and Elizabeth's usual irrational decisions.

I believe they were married, it just wasn't going very well. Weir says somewhere: Is that any way to talk to your wife? But I guess that too can be interpreted two ways.



Actually, the P90 has a three-position rotary selector with which you can can fire one round each time.

I thought it was a very good episode, I think the neighbors heared me "woohoo" when "the kiss" occured.

This episode was pathetic. I mean again take overs. They are consttantly repeating themselves.
How about Ronan trusting Shepard. I mean how dumb can you get? He could at least have stunned him or something to make sure it was him.
Teyla is just plain boring, empty character. She's got a nice ass and all but she lacks character, substance.

They were NOT married! Please. She said that so they would imprint someone so she could kill her sworn enemy. Did you even watch the episode?

Wraith stun pistols were introduced at the beginning of this season. Ford also had one in the episode where he was holding McKay hostage. I think the Wraith stun rifles are ugly anyways, and this just brings the Atlantis team one step closer to using zats (which we all know they brought and hid away somewhere for a rainy day).

Holy crap, what is with all the negative feedback?

I liked this episode a lot. McKay was hilarious, especially with the scene with him and Carson. It was really good and I actually for once considered taping it. Anyway, I'm giving this episode a solid 9. I loved it.

Just wondering, is there an episode that you actually do like? I mean, it sounds like you hate the show altogether.

This episodes undermines the realistic side of the series, the side that the poducers try to hold on to.


Why oh why would the two highest ranking officers decide to let some alien control them with a technoligy they are not familair with.....
They didn't even deactivated there control over the whole city.... omg.....


Another thing that irritates me: these kind of problems are just to simple.......i mean come on everyone here on the forum could have handled the problem better than they did, if anyone would have let it come so far that is........



btw, they have beaming tch. on the deadulus, and nothing in atlantis....how come?
The first thing i would do is to install it there.......whole lot easier to explore the city of to arrest intruders.
And the very best thing about that is that stupid episodes like this on can be put into the intro of a good on....
(caused and solved within 2minutes...beam them into jail and wait)...

Why do so many people come on here and just bitch about the writing, characters and effects? I mean, if you are finding so much fault, why are you even bothering watching the show?

I enjoyed this episode. I thought Torri Higginson was very good and I like the natural dynamic between her and Joe Flannigan ... even though I am a Sheppard/Teyla shipper, I can admit she was cool in this episode. McKay was my favourite, though. He's so witty.

This post has been edited by tinydancer: Jan 9th 2006, 3:41 AM

Whoooow

Tiny this is episode discussion, not post your positive criticisms of the episode. If people do not like the episode they have every right to say so. Liking it is not a prerequisite of posting.


This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Jan 9th 2006, 5:10 AM

T'was a lvoely episode. Silly, but lovely.

I think the Weir-alien and Sheppard-alien were married - she kept on referring to him as her husband even when she was hunting for him. Maybe they were married and then the war broke loose?

I don't have a problem with Ronan gfetting shot and Teyla staying well.. un-shot. First, Ronan needs to bed a tad bit more human. Going down (and actually, going down with less than a full cartridge) is more human than he was til now. Plus, it allowed for the "torches" comment. Ha! ;) (cheers Beckett in the background). Second, Ronan was taken by surprise, he wasn't expecting Weir there - or was also paying attention to Sheppard. Teyla had only Sheppard to look for.
Oh yeah, and "he screams like hell in my head!" that was a lovely comment.

Also, the episode really wasn't as predictable as it could have been. Yes, it was obvious from the moment Weir woke up she's setting them up, but the rest of the episode was a bit nicer. It was nice to see Evil Weir. I went back to liking her after getting annoyed with Critical Mass. ;)

Coldwell... they dwellt on the Goa'uld issue - which was fantastic, they usually don't with people who aren't show regulars. And McKay trying to get command! Ha! And TBH I wasn't expecting to see Coldwell again, I thought he was done after Critical Mass. Yay, he definitely adds to the show. Nice episode, all in all. As for plot holes... I'm not even gonna try and comment. There were many. Let's leave it at that.