on this episode the guy who gets sucked out of the air lock is a guy who playes a tok'ra. on the episode where that bounty hunter captures SG-1

No, it's not. I'm pretty sure that the tok'ra in the Ep (Dead Man Switch) where sg-1 gets captured by a bounty hunter is not the same actor that portrays Lidstrom - the guy that gets sucked out of the airlock. He does play a tok'ra in an sg-1 Ep, though. I believe it's the one with the invisible Ashrak that goes around killing members of the jaffa rebellion and Tok'ra while they were temporarily cohabitating the tau'ri alpha site. I'm not 100% sure but I think his name was Oker or Okre, Ocker, etc. Pronounced: Ock, ker. Or something like that.

Summary: Yes, he was a tok'ra in an sg-1 episode. However, it wasn't the bounty hunter episode.

Note to self: Never attempt to pursue a career as a dictionary author as it would be a complete and total bust - not to mention embarrassing.

He was a Tok'Ra in 'Allegiance'.

This wasnt a bad episode. It was a bit too slow after what happened in 'The Seige' part 3. The best part was McKay when he was waiting to get transported. Does anyone know what Heriod was really saying, before his lines were reversed? I didnt recognise Garwin Sanford at first, he looks different with his hair long. It doesnt really suit him, but I guess that it separates him from being Narim.

Meh.
That was a bit pants really.

Yeah yeah, I know they had to show off the Daedalus, but in the second episode of the season, straight after we've seen Atlantis saved, we lose a huge chunk of time and don't even get to see the city that was saved.

Don't even get me started on the entity...sorry, virus!
How many plotlines have been lifted straight from SG-1 now?

All in all it wasn't a bad episode, I was just expecting so much more.

Hermiod rocks!

The main story wasn't great, but there were enough highlights to still make it a fairly good episode.

Shepard's fight with the virus controlled F-302 was good, even if the 'slam on the brake's' move, has been done to death.

Hermoid, seem's to be like an Asgard version of Mckay.

I found it intersting that General Landry, good friend's with Jack O'Neil apparently, has doubt's about Shepard being in miltary command of Atlantis because he disobey's the odd order.

Anyway, nice to see Shepard get his promotion.

This is episode was kind of full of annoying things. I think I'll make this cynic's review.

TEMPORAL ANOMALY OF THE WEEK: This episode finally beats 'Fallen' for rushed plotting. In the first five minutes, they go back to Earth, do their stuff, and return to Pegasus. If anyone had turned on a couple of minutes late because they were finishing preparing their curry, they wouldn't even have understood the situation. That so little time was devoted to this important event in the lives of the Atlantis expedition in favour of this off-the-shelf plot is rather disappointing.

ANNOYING SOUND OF THE WEEK: This goes that wretched screeching the F-302s made. Yes, yes, I know we are all accept sounds in space, just as we accept that the first people the Atlantis expedition encountered in Pegasus spoke perfect English. The screeching sound however was obnoxious and when a sound that shouldn't be there at all is obnoxious, it just serves to rub it in. If it wasn't for the screeching, I wouldn't have even thought about this classic bit of bad astronomy. It's bad enough we have to watch that pointless banking.

COSTUME DRAMA OF THE WEEK: The flashback with Weir and Simon. I thought I was watching a stage play about a Yankee and his amour during the American Civil War. Are the costume department getting bored with doing jumpsuits and Jaffa skirts all the time?

TREKKISM OF THE WEEK: No circuit breakers aboard ship. If the USAF had allowed proper electrical engineers to design the Daedalus, then they could have simply pulled the breaker for the transmitter. And no, there should be no way for a computer, even one infected by a Wraith virus, to close a circuit breaker that has been physically tripped.

TREKKISM OF THE WEEK RUNNER UP: Sensors getting jammed by strawberry jam. The Asgard were capable of correcting the problems with the core of the sun of K'Tau (even if they didn't do it, it is clearly stated that they could have), yet somehow he can't detect two F-302s that aren't really all that near the sun.

AIRBUS DESIGN OF THE WEEK: It is generally expected that a pilot should retain the ability to turn an autopilot off, even if it means pulling, guess what, the breaker. Shepherd should not have lost control of the first 302 that way.

BIG BROTHER OF THE WEEK: Even the emergency lighting is controlled by the computer? Why no red emergency lights when doing those shutdowns?

THE KIRK "THIS IS THE MOST DANGEROUS PLANET IN THE GALAXY SO LET'S BEAM DOWN ALL THE SENIOR STAFF" SYNDROME OF THE WEEK: So all the main cast, exclusing Teyla whose not from Earth, get to go home at the same time. This includes the person in charge of the Atlantis expedition, the ranking military officer, the head scientist and the chief medical officer.

ARISTOTLE OF THE WEEK: True, what we saw wasn't technically wrong. When Shepherd closed the throttle, the evil 302 should have accelerated past him. However, Newton's first law says, and it should still apply in Pegasus, that an object will maintain its velocity unless acted upon by an external resultant force. In other words, there's no braking. It was only a dialogue slip, but it was cringeworthy nonetheless (especially without McKay taking this opportunity, like every other, to correct him) primarily because after 'Space Race', I don't trust the writers to have written it as just a figure of speech.

BOND VILLAIN OF THE WEEK: The Wraith virus for its unnecessarily slow and hence preventable plan to kill the crew by radiation poisoning. Just turn of the life support or launch an F-302 to break a few windows.

CHEERLEADER OF THE WEEK: Why did Teyla sound so dumb and peppy at the end of this episode? She usually sounds much more commanding and full of prescence.

UNRELIABLE GOD-TECH OF THE WEEK: In 'Prodigy' (another episode written by M&M and directed by Peter DeLuise, but containing a lot more charm), the Stargate flipped Carter and Haley around so they they exited the wormhole on opposite sides of each other. In this episode, that continuity gaff was beaten as the Asgard transporter beams out Shepherd sitting in the cockpit and the F-302 and rematerialises him on the bridge standing up. This time it was so obvious it was laughable. I'm surprised DeLuise of all people missed the opportunity for slapstick moment when Shepherd rematerialises and falls on his arse.

RELIABLE GOD-TECH OF THE WEEK: Speaking of missed transporter slapstick, why after the too-corny-and-drawn-out to-remain-funny-after-the-initial-one-second-of-amusement scene of McKay preparing for a risky transport, did the transport work perfectly depositing McKay and Shepherd on the floor perfectly balanced?

DEAD HORSE OF THE WEEK: McKay's outbursts in the face of imminent destruction is getting a little stale now. When he barked, "We're sitting ducks!" I had a feeling I'd seen David Hewlett deliver that line before in exactly the same manner. The repetitiveness of this kind of McKay line is getting to be annoying.

LABOUR SHORTAGE OF THE WEEK: Where's the Daedalus's chief medical officer? Why is Beckett in charge?

GRATUITOUS ROLE OF THE WEEK: That would be Weir. She was always hanging around in sensitive areas while knowledgeable people did important things. She was really only getting in their way.

DISORIENTATION OF THE WEEK: I guess this goes to Shepherd for forgetting that he's in SPACE and not in an F-22 trying to destroy a transmitter on the USS Nimitz in the middle of the Pacific. He didn't needn't to do a flypast of the transmitter while spraying bullets at random. He just needed to station keep with the Daedalus and carefully fire one or two shots at the transmitter.

Have you just copied and pasted that post, it seems like you have.

Do you mean me? I wrote it myself but the style was inspired by the website I linked. The Cynic hasn't reviewed any SG.

I meant no offense, it just there was a hell of a lot of detail. I dont remember half the stuff that happened in the episode.

Daf in spoiler section for this thread I think there is a translation if I am not mistaken.

Loved the episode, but when it was the falshbacks ... was the screen suddenly really light or is tht just my Tv? kinda annoyed me actually..........

Emma xx

I found them to be quite bright too. The flashbacks kind of threw me, I didnt realise they were flashback scenes.

I'm gonna be biased towards every Atlantis ep now, but I really liked this. The flashbacks to when they were on Earth were really cool...I felt so sorry for Elizabeth when Simon said he'd found someone else.
One thing though...it took Carter so much longer than that to be promoted to Lt Colonel and then Sheppard gets promoted just like that...I know he saved Atlantis and everything but she saved the world on a regular basis.
The Asgard (can't remember the name...) saying "Crap indeed" had me laughing for about five minutes.
And Carson. Wearing a suit.

Unless Sheppard was newly promoted to Major in episode 1, season 1, which I'm pretty sure he wasn't, we don't really know how long he was in between promotions. Are we saying he didn't do any outstanding work, deserving of merit, before he became involved in Atlantis?

Unless of course I've had a mental block and he was newly promoted in Rising.

It is likely he had been a Major for quite a while. Sumner commented on Sheppard's reputation in 'Rising'. He seemed to have a bad attitude when he was talking with O'Neill in the helicopter.

one thing I like about this epasoide is that they don't attempt to hide the fact that this is a rip on the sg1 epasoide, I am supprised Teyla never went to earth and Cadwell he needs an atatude ajustment

Wasn't Shepard court martialled or at least reprimanded for disobeying orders? He himself has said a lot of people didn't think he'd make it past Captain and a lot of high ranking people such as General's O'Neil and Landry and Col's Sumner and Caldwell seem to have serious doubt's about Shepard.

Compare Shepard's record to Mitchell who has an "impeccable service record" or Carter who must also have a near perfect service record, and his rise to the rank of Lt. Col seem's rather quick. And I would guess Shepard is several years younger than Carter or Mitchell.

well I just had tiem to watch this episode it was a good one. we finally see some 302 action in SGA it may b 302 vs 302 but i can't complain.

great episode i love it every part of it

i thought i had seen him somewhere on the show

Although, I think he put on some extra padding between the sg-1 ep and the Atlantis ep. It was enough to throw off my husband. I had to dig up the episode and show him the credits. Now, however, I can't remember the actor's name to show for my effort. Memory is such a fickle thing.

I thought that O'Neill liked sheppards attitude in "Rising Part 1". He does have that cocky "I don't give a sh*t attitude" that O'Neill harbours.

Sheppard was promoted because of the hassle he was being given. They wanted a leader of the Atlantis operation to be a higher rank than just a Major. Weir would not settle for another leader and used her link with the president Hayes to get him promoted to Lt. Col.

I did get the sense that O'neil liked Shep and what isnt there to like? he is such a cutie.
Yes, it did seem odd that they all went back to Earth but i was glad that Teyla didn't go as there did not seem like anything she could do.
Other than that...The flashbacks kinda annoyed me because you're watching the episode as it is but then they go back into the past and at first i thought it was a dream but then i realised they had actually gone back to Earth so yeah.

after seige III almost anything would have been dull.

hermod is an interesting character. he kinda makes me think he didn't want to do that job. 'crap indeed'

is it me or every time they are going through files with mugshots in them you allways see PDL in one of the photos? when beckett is looking through the files PDL looks to be the bottom file.