Episode was very nice. We got to see more of the really nice ship and of the onboard asgard. I hope he won't start to say 'indeed' at every thing like teal'c is doing in sg1. Great episode but this week i liked sg1 better. It was nice to see few flashback from earth but i would have prefered an episode about it - maybe a wraith would have been hiding on the ship and then would start killing people at stargate command when the ship reached earth or something like that.

One question though... did they put the ZPM back on the ship to make it go that fast or is indeed the Daedalus that fast on its own engine powered by whatever there is default ?

Happy Hopping: the virus was not able to jump back to the ship piloted by shepard because this ship had the *memroy core* already removed and shepard was flying the ship manualy so there was no were to jump back to.

Personaly i thought it was nice how they tried 3 times to remove the virus from the system because it is was kind of a cliche lately to pull rabits out of the hat and even the wildest idea works the first time - so they had a challenge this time.

One a separate note all major computer viruses do what Happy Hopping said in his post - you make it seem like its something special. I doubt the writters thought about that when writting the episode.

I noticed that too. I am watching Seige Pt 3 again right now. I noticed Rainbow is still in the intro dispite him being a recurring character now. Did Beckets actor get in the intro...I only caught the last half of the intro.

No, becuase they removed the computer unit the virus was jumping to. So it had no where to go.



As stated before Hermiod has a really cool sense of humor. After seeing Thor so much i didnt know the Asguard even had one.

I wonder what the Ancients did when they were attacked with this virus.

How did the virus get into the D? Was it when one of the hive ships came along side it during the battle in "Seige pt 3"?

MacKay mentioned that it must have been implanted into their systems during their last major incounter with the wraith hive ships. So at anytime during that 12 on 1 battle it could have happened. However, it was most likely when the one came alongside the D.

Yes, it did seem to get a bit ridiculous, and that part of the story felt like too much like "Rodney vs. the Wraith Virus."

Actually, Sheppard and Rodney had pulled some sort of memory/navigational thingie from the rest of the gliders that the virus was hiding in, so they were in a "clean" glider that couldn't get reinfected...at least that's how the story was supposed to expalin it. Your believabilty of this theory may vary under personal viewing conditions.

As far as casting "Narim" as "Simon", I actually kinda liked it, and I thought it was an interesting twist that he had found "someone else" in her absence. Didn't see that coming, becuase I didn't think he was the type. Of course, my perception of Simon comes from Weir's point of view, so who knows what he was really like when she was away?

I also liked the scientist getting sucked out of the airlock. Th ep had a darker edge that Altantis seems to live in these days, and its neat to see. I haven't gotten to the point where the show warrents repeat viewing from me, but its getting interestin nevertheless.

Em the actor playing Becket has his name in the opening credits, just like David. It's actor, as Becket, just before David as McKay.

Simon and Weir were not married. He was her boyfriend and they had been living together. That was explained in season 1 opener, when Weir sent him a letter. Oh, and what is with his hair!

So the writers are recycling storylines from SG already? They used the virus one, and McKay had to remember what happened at the SGC to help combat it.

Weir wanted them to give Sheppard a promotion because she wanted him in command, militarily, and not Caldwell. Weir reminded Landry and Caldwell that she is still on really good terms with the president.

I loved the Asgard. He's one of the best things. He mumbles, speaks in his native language and swears, LOL! That is too funny.

This post has been edited by IndyJan: Jul 24th 2005, 2:23 AM

can we get more translations for hermy??

cause he does a lot more muttering... Hermy has become my favourite sga character now... hes almost as funneh as rodney

my fav part of this episode, is the stare between sheppard, and hermy

This post has been edited by Lagger: Jul 24th 2005, 12:55 AM

I thought it was rather funny when Sheppard said, "does he have to be naked?"

From what I understand, Hermiod is basically saying whatever it is he's saying in english, only backwards. All you gotta do is have the technology to record the sound, dub it backwards, and replay it n' save! As a matter of fact, here's the link to what Hermiod was saying in "Seige III" when he was upset about "his" technology being used to shove Nukes up the wraith's tailpipe. Keep in mind it's the spoiler section for the episode previous to this episode,so you may read some stuff, spoiling future episodes for you (if you get more curious than just reading post 442) Neways, just read post 442, and you'll get that audio n' be all good, as a matter of fact, lemme put a spoiler tag on the link... but here goes!

The reason it didn't jump to Sheppard's glider is because there was no navigational computer installed. Sheppard said all the navigational computers on the ship were dismantled, hinting that the glider had the only remaining computer, so no chance of it jumping anywhere.
I agree the storyline seemed thin and repetitive, and yes the flashbacks sucked. I'm sure everyone else would have liked to see a full interaction between the new SG-1 and Atlantis, and possibly give another reason Daniel didn't make it. Shanks said that will be a running joke this season.

This post has been edited by startreksuite: Jul 24th 2005, 7:01 AM

This isn't a nitpick as such, but I thought the hyperspace window (entering and exiting) looked better in "The Siege" (Part3) than in "The Intruder".

Let's recall, in "The Siege" (Part 3) the hyperspace window was blue-green-ish, Stargate event horizon-like, while in "The Intruder", it was the standard Goa'uld one - so sorta disappointing.

I like flashbacks, it was a cool episode.

So many cool things on the episode like Sheppard and Hermoid stare-off, the duck in one of the F-302s.

The scene after Sheppard stares at Hermiod, he says : "These humans are infants" (backwards)

This post has been edited by hellbourne: Jul 24th 2005, 7:47 AM

About the hyperspace window... I liked this one better, the asgard ships also have the blueish tinge to them, and as we are using an asgard hyperdrive it is only fitting for it to be blue.
However what bugged my was the time it took to travel to Earth, I thought asgard ships were capable from travelling from their galaxy to ours in less than a day, why does it take so long, the ship is basicly an asgard ship with human tech slapped onto it.

About what hermiod said:

After shepard finished staring: "These humans are infants"

Hermiod is so funny! But I do think there's an incongruency when it's always McKay that is coming up with brilliant ideas to save the day. The Asgard are an extremely advanced and intelligent race. Realistically, I think Hermiod would more likely be the one coming up with all (or at least some) of the innovative ideas.

There's one time that Hermy says "The incompetence of these humans is begining to make me angry"

This post has been edited by Anubis drone: Jul 24th 2005, 12:37 PM

Oh what fun the writers must be having with that!! I think they should appropriate the SGA acronym so it now means Starkies Grouchy Asgard.

Sighfi That is great.

Indy thanks. I guess my guess was right than. It was to much of a co-incident that they did that in the bigger battle. It had to be when the Intruder entered.

I love spoilers.

did anyone else notice the little rubber ducky in one of the f303's McKay was poking or was it just me?

i would like to think of it as an omage to my belloved Marduck, however the realist in me has to say it's really just a duck ah well, its cute anyway.....what's with the summo wrestler dude?

Okay, my transformation is now compelte. I actually really like Weir. Disturbing.

I loved her scene with Landry.... "The president agrees with me" - at that moment, she really reminded me of Jessica Steen in Lost City. Great work. Loved all the flashbacks actually... and Carson and his "He's more qualified than me, too"! Gotta love him.

Yup, the story was recycled - but keep in mind they noticed that themselves - aand actually played off by it - giving them the easy solution "cos we already done so in Entity". It does continue the on-going feeling that it's actually one show, not two (and Hermoid! I kidna felt Sheppard's comments were aimed for the non-cross-over viewers!)...

I love that Asgaard. He's great. Crap, indeed.

Very enjoyable

Granted the virus makes copies of itself but it really is so much more than just a virus. It's an AI. I think the three attempts to remove the virus showed how resourceful and tricky the Wraith can be. I don't think it shows a lack of material because every time it came back it did a little something new. It did so much more than just clog up memory; like when they discovered they were on course for the nearest star but they wouldn't hit it. Instead they would all die and leave the ship unharmed. It was capable of adapting to every attempt at removing it. A plain virus can't do that to the same extent. Nor can a virus decide to cause a toxic leak and then open the hatch of the ship to kill someone as the wraith virus did.

I liked how they couldn't just go "Ok reboot."

As for the flaw you mentioned: There's a flaw in your... flaw.

McKay and Sheppard were in the fighter bay removing the memory storage units from every F-302 including the one they were sitting in which was the last one. The memory storage units in the fighters were the only place where it could hide. The shot down ship couldn't upload the virus to the ship Shep was flying because the memory unit had been pulled out.

Besides, without all of that repetitiveness, we wouldn't have had the chance to see an Asguard lose it a little. I, for one, laughed so hard I cried.

Not true... The infected 302 was the one that Sheppard used to blow up the array and was beamed out of. The virus kept it close by so that it could re-infect the Daedalus.

I recognize the need for an episode to show off the new ship and crew, but I agree that the virus thing was done before and done to death. I just chalk this one up to a character development episode. I'll enjoy it on that premise.

On the Fighter Bay (was about to say, Jumper Bay), it sorta reminded me of BSG's Viper Bay.

All the crafts were aligned to each side, it was an impressive shot, when they just beamed in after Sheppard looking at McKay's funny but ridiculous pose.

I recall going, "OOOhhhhh" when the camera panned across the Bay.

Lolz... hermy is so funneh.....

and we finnally get to see x-302's fly around...