Well, it wouldn't be an entirely convincing hallucination if he had to question why she didn't affect things and it would have made it kind of akward trying to do that for the camera guys and AT.



It would've seemed less natural to me if she didn't. To Rodney, she's there. When someone is there from your perspective it wouldn't make sense to have them not interact with your environment. If the mind is healthy enough to keep these technicalities straight, it probably wouldn't need the hallucination in the first place. We saw how much trouble he was having with thinking straight before Carter showed up. I think it would've detracted from the realism of the hallucination for him and he would've been at the first step in overcoming his hallucination. Sure, he knew what she was but he was more involved in arguing with her. If he started picking apart those details, she might have disappeared. Just my two pence.

BTW, did anyone else noticed that Sheppard called Rodney 'buddy'? I could've sworn he said "Open up buddy. We're here to take you home." I don't think I've heard him say that to McKay before. Just seems like progress to me or it could be that Shep says that to everybody. I've heard him say that to Ford even though it was during a dangerous situation while they were looking for him. I just thought if he says that to those he's fond of, he and Rodney are friends outside of work. I know we just assume that for the most part but we never see them hanging out like friends do so I was kind of worried and hoping the buddy comment was an indication of their friendship.

I know. I know. I've been accused of over-analyzing things before. No need to do it here. Don't shoot!

This post has been edited by Samara Draven: Jan 29th 2006, 9:26 PM

What can I say, I liked this episode so much better than the SG one that aired. That is a first for me this season.

Whether it done before on SG, I don't care. As far as I'm concerned it was done well. McKay was his usual arrognat self once again. "Why am I down here, I should be up there figuring out how to save the person." Or something like that. Why wouldn't Rodeny hallucinate about Sam? I mean as far as he is concerned, she's the only one that is as smart as him, LOL! I did love Sam saying, "you hallucinated me because I was always right and you were always wrong." I did love the comment about "why aren't you naked?" I mean she was his hallucination.

I'm hoping that this episode will help to grow Rodney as a character. He needs to realize that he's not always right. He needs to realize that others can find a solution, Zelenka and Shep. He needs to let go at times. Of course, I'm not counting on it lasting for long.

Why were they able to write Sam as intelligent on Atlantis, but can't do the same thing on SG? If this Sam was kick-ass, she's be back to the Sam that I love. Oh, and she looked amazing!

I really liked this episode. But then, I like McKay. Again I was wanting to either deck him or hug him. It fluctuated throughout the epi. He was awesome.

Loved seeing Sam. She looked great. Why couldn't I have looked that good after having a kid?

Zalenka. He is SO my honey. Can I say here that I adore him?

Yeah, you can say that you adore him. I love him too, as well as Beckett, my guy.

I like when he gets aggravated and slips into his native tongue. Too cute!

I'd say it's just evidence that Rodney has grown on Sheppard and he can't help but like the guy-even if he can be a colossal pain in the ass. Besides, they've had this I save you, you save me thing going on right? Then again, there are those slash fiends that would say its something more than friendship. *shrugs* Analyze at will.


Yeah. He accused her of not even being provocatively dressed- while he was staring directly at her cleavage! He cracks me up. Though I do wonder why he put her in pink.... It seems very un-Sam.


Since when has she not been intelligent on SG1? Season 9 does seem to show her as more militant, though Daniel seems much more militarized as well; while Teal'c is becoming more "civil" and less militant. I'd say it's just the new way of things. Sigh, I miss the early years of archaeologist Jackson....

For some reason this season on SG, Sam isn't coming across as intelligent, but like you said, more militant, as is Daniel. Teal'c is becoming less Jaffa-like, except for wanting to create the whole Jaffa nation.

I agree, I miss the old SG1. Those were the days. But I have the series on DVD and can watch them at anytime.

In the early years of archeologist Jackson, who was the one that brought out that side of Daniel? Jack. O'Niell left and Daniel has changed. Everybody's changed. Teal'c isn't less militant than the others. He's just less militant than he used to be. Carter usually shows some kind of balance between military action and morality. She's been on Daniel's side plenty of times even though she has to follow orders. Maybe Daniel doesn't have the same constant difference of opinion with Sam that he did with Jack. Carter's militant, no doubt about it but she is willing to listen more than Jack seemed to. I just chalk it up to the fact that people change. I'm happy they've evolved. They don't evolve perfectly either. They have sides to them that make us want to slap them silly at times. I like that. I just can't stand beauraucratic crap Kinsey was always on. Close mindedness like his makes me so angry.

This was an interesting episod although it reminds me of an sg1 ep. it turned out great!

I don't necessarily agree with that. I think a hallucination could be expected to conform to real-world standards since they are a product of imagination and expectations. Since she was from Rodney's subconscious, why wouldn't she react to environmental triggers, just as Rodney would expect the real Sam to?

It was supposed to be like 'Grace' in season 7. In 'Grace', Sam has hallucinations which help her find a solution to her problem. In 'Grace Under Pressure', Sam appears to McKay as a hallucination and helps him come up with a solution to his problem.

I liked this episode I think radick could have hit the button and ran and made it to the door I did REALY like the seen with Carter wet in her bra was great. I would be pissed if my own fantasy wouldent do what I want. I also liked the shot at the end where the "whale" swims over great CG shot. I think this was just filler something to take up some room but either way it was funny waching mackay flipout.

First of all I LOVED that ep it realy shows that Rodeny can have a little compassion, even if he was talking to himself when he said it .

By the way where was everybody the fact that he got injured means that the writers would have had a reason to include Carson in the episode and i know that he can be a real pain but he has to be close to some-one in that city, I thought it was a shame that no-one was all that worried about him, I mean Weir was ready to run through the gate herself when she thought Sheppard was in trouble and decided not to help the soldiers with Rodeny when he collapsed in the gate room during 'The Hive' I thought that was a little insensitive . Any way back to the ep the whole Rodeny/Sheppard thing is realy starting to get better, you know since the whole blowing up a solar system thing and about time too, the use of Sam in his subconcious was well done, DH has to be one of the more talented actors I've watched on sci fi shows.

It was a shame for Griffon though he seemed like a realy nice guy and I would have liked to have seen more of him. I'm starting to get curious about that whale, has it been hanging around that ocean for 10,000 years, and how long do they live, wow talk about a change of scenery.

Radek and Jon did a wonderful job (as did the actors) with the rescue wonder if they'll hold it over Rodeny's head for a while lol.

I think this realy will change him, he's starting to figure out that he is not the center of the universe and he just might get a little further with Carter if he remembers it, that is if he and Katie don't work out as planned.

Any way thats me about done for now looking forward to the next episodes

I LOVE ATLANTIS!!!!!!!!
I LOVE ATLANTIS!!!!!!!!

65% Any time we get to focus on McKay is a good thing. I was also more intelligent than a lot of episodes recently.

ATLANTIS CLICHE OF THE WEEK: The same thing happened to Voyager when they introduced the Delta Flyer. Puddle jumpers tend to crash every few episodes. At least this time there are loads so it's not dodgy continuity to rip apart a fresh one each week.

ATLANTIS SUPERINTELLIGENCE OF THE WEEK: I suppose you could say the crash of this jumper kind of invalidates the point, but the expedition seem awfully confident about their ability to fix Ancient technology. Bearing in mind this is technology millions of years ahead of us, it's like expecting Archimedes to be able to fix a damaged Seneca.

RED HERRING OF THE WEEK: I was thinking for a while the Carter hallucination was induced by the big whale. I was on the point of accusing them of heavy-lifting from Red Dwarf V.

TREKKISMS AVOIDED OF THE WEEK: Pulling the jumper out with a cable? How delightfully not technobabbly! Sometimes the simplest ideas are the best. Of course, using the shield in the end was sort of technobabbly, but hey there were no omicron particles involved.

WEIRD TECHNOLOGY OF THE WEEK: Jumpers have enough power to allow you to fly from the planet's surface to orbit and then across the system in hours. If they store the energy to do that, how could they possibly be running out of energy from sitting on the ocean floor shielded from the environment simply by the hull (ie no technobabble protection)?

PUN OF THE WEEK: So we have a reworking of 'Grace' but with the threat from the high pressure environment of the sea floor. Hence we get 'Grace Under Pressure'.

This post has been edited by glom: Feb 1st 2006, 4:58 PM

Ya but no body ever wached voyager cuz it was a waste of air time so the wirters figured it would still be knew. but as south park pointed out with the ep. where butters is trying to distroy south park and simpsons has used all of his ideas, every thing is a rip off. so it doesent matter or like on the ep. of SG-1 citezen joe the son of joe spencer Points out "there is no such thing as original thought any more".

i was a bit worried about watching this episode as i thought the cringe factor would be unbearable, the bit with Carter in the bikini, how she tries to seduce him etc. but i found it highly enjoyable. The bit towards the beginning when McKay had hit his head and he was going all crazy, talking to himself and laughing insanely was stunning, my hat (if i was wearing one) goes off to him. That was outstanding acting. I loved the Lassie reference;

"What am I doing?! (He answers himself.) Well, I'm, uh, treating an alien whale like Lassie! (The creature groans again. Rodney shouts at it angrily.) Look, OK, if you're not gonna help, then just swim on by!"

I loved Amanda's role in this but when she was trying to seduce Rodney had me in fits.

A great episode!

That's because in space, there is no pressure. and in the atmosphere, there is minimal pressure. Make sense?

I loved this episode. I didnt like the pilot at the beginning, he seemed an ass. I was expecting Amanda to have a larger role in this episode, she wasnt in it all that much. McKay arguing with himself about the Jumper not doing what he wanted was funny as hell.

No. What's the external pressure got to do with power supplies?

Well, the PJ never really lost power ... so I just misread your first quote. When it was on the ocean floor, the only reason it would have lost any form of power was due to water damage, or frmo the initial collision.

If you were referring to the shield thingy, by being under thousands of pressure, obviously it will require more power to power the shield. In space, there is nothing that the shield needs to hold back. Therefore no extra power drain. Underwater, clearly they need to hold the ocean back. The farther down you are, the more ocean you need to hold back, the more power you need to output.

Yeah Voyager...watched the first few episodes on DVD, off of Netflix. Gosh...it was so bad! Yeah but anyway, I wish in SG1 they would have more episodes based around Daniel and Carter. Less Jaffa and Mitchell.

I really liked this ep. Mckay is such a good character now and you just know any ep with him and Carter in is going to be great. It did actually make me a little scared for him, the fact that like he said he was trapped underwater in a metal container, or whatever it was, and then it starts to fill with water...it was making me feel claustrophobic just watching it. It was really sad that Griffin sacrificed himself so Mckay could live.
The next time Mckay sees Carter is gonna be great...heh heh.

hehe finally rodney goes crazy... well crazier.

my only question is: why just Sam.!
why not Zelenka? or Cadman? or both? or all three?

imagine, rodney overcome by all those *annoying* ppl.

If you watch the episode then you'll know the answer. Sam said that McKay's subconscious created her because he knew she would be the only person that could help him.