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Arcady	Jan 11th 2006, 6:36 PM Post #1
Base Commander Group: Admin Posts: 4,886 Joined: November 26th 2002 From: Dallas, Texas USA Member No.: 1 Gender: Male	Season 2, Episode 18 - Michael Air Dates: CA: Jan. 16, 8 PM (TMN) US: Feb. 24, 9 PM (Sci Fi Channel) UK: Mar. 1, 8 PM (Sky One) A amnesiac young Lieutenant makes a shocking discovery about himself: He is a Wraith transformed by a drug created by Dr. Beckett. Episode Guide \| Spoilers \| Teaser (This topic is for people who have seen the episode to discuss it. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read this topic.)

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tauri129	Feb 25th 2006, 12:16 PM Post #2
Airman Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: September 2nd 2005 From: Charlotte Member No.: 10,046 Gender: Female	i did like this episode. it raised some really good ethical questions i thought Connor Trinneer was reallly good as Michael; i really felt for him when he first found out he was a wraith. i definitely think that whole experiment was just wrong, doomed from the start. they never should have done that. i dont think ronan was too aggressive, i think he was rightfully concerned about the fact that there was essentially a wraith loose in the city.

spookwomann	Feb 25th 2006, 4:58 PM Post #3
Airman Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: November 2nd 2005 From: Ireland Member No.: 10,446 Gender: Female	When a drug is created here it goes through tests in a lab then it gets to the point of where it has to be tested on humans. The retro virus must have reached the point of it having to be tested it on a wraith. The wraith are culling world's, they have done gene therapy on humans eg Tayla's telepathic abilities and now they are trying to get to earth. The stakes have been upped so everything has to be done to save planets with humans on them. They are not actually killing the wraith, they are trying to get rid of the wraiths need to feed on humans, but my moral question is who has the right to tell another being how to live. We accept animals killing or eating their young in nature, so is there any real difference in the wraith feeding on humans. Another reason why micheal could have been moved to the alpha site is out of sight out of mind. If something should happen he was to be killed, but they weren?t prepared for just how much he was starting to remember or feel. As he said he always felt the hunger. What else could have been going on with him. Michael now knows what it is like to be human and he could use this as a weapon.

gabor	Feb 25th 2006, 5:08 PM Post #4
Civilian Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: January 17th 2006 Member No.: 10,927 Gender: Not Telling	QUOTE(spookwomann @ Feb 25th 2006, 10:58 PM) They are not actually killing the wraith, they are trying to get rid of the wraiths need to feed on humans maybe the wraith does not die, but his memories (his identity) is erased, and his body is completely changed. so he lost his body and also his identity. in my interpretation that means that the original being was destroyed (killed) (i understand that your opinion is basically the same as mine, only wanted to point out this minor issue)

spookwomann	Feb 25th 2006, 5:45 PM Post #5
Airman Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: November 2nd 2005 From: Ireland Member No.: 10,446 Gender: Female	in my interpretation that means that the original being was destroyed (killed) (i understand that your opinion is basically the same as mine, only wanted to point out this minor issue) [/quote] Bastage! lol I know what you mean. it's kinda like giving someone electric shock treatment, their personality is changed and some may say that is like killing a person. But there is also the side where the body is still alive. Its a tough area to argue. A person is not charged with murder if they injure another to the point where their origional personality is completey destroyed.

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Arcady 218 - Michael Jan 11th 2006, 6:36 PM

Auntie Em! I like the fact that I have not seen to many spoil... Jan 16th 2006, 8:48 PM

Cons good episode overall. i was also thinking that the... Jan 17th 2006, 11:25 AM

alterantian This episode was a good introduction of Micheal wh... Jan 17th 2006, 12:32 PM

VectorDP side topic but this is really p***ing me off, a b... Jan 17th 2006, 1:55 PM

Cha'Lok Pretty good episode! I give it a 7.8/10. I rea... Jan 17th 2006, 2:26 PM

danac Oh and yay for more firepower, can't wait to ... Jan 17th 2006, 3:59 PM

Auntie Em! Hi,i'm a noob here so don't be too harsh ... Jan 17th 2006, 10:23 PM

Atlantians Welcome to the forum. First off though, your not ... Jan 17th 2006, 10:57 PM

Auntie Em! Actually, you are describing a "Inexperience... Jan 17th 2006, 11:52 PM

zpm Hi,i'm a noob here so don't be too harsh ... Jan 22nd 2006, 6:38 PM

shogi Hi,i'm a noob here so don't be too harsh ... Mar 2nd 2006, 9:32 AM

Alley Pretty good episode! I give it a 7.8/10. I re... Apr 2nd 2006, 9:42 AM

Auntie Em! Cons go to the off topic section in the computer s... Jan 17th 2006, 2:42 PM

Raxor shite ep, so nothing more to say * a snooze fest ... Jan 17th 2006, 4:21 PM

gabor it was terrible. not the story of the episode. th... Jan 17th 2006, 6:17 PM

ted_simple it was terrible. not the story of the episode. t... Jan 18th 2006, 9:38 AM

Cha'Lok However, I would have preferred it so much if we ... Jan 18th 2006, 10:55 AM

HurricaneMB [quote name='ted_simple' date='Jan 18th 2006, 3... Feb 4th 2006, 12:15 AM

Dafmeister In my opinion if they really had the 2nd ZPM (from... Jan 17th 2006, 7:37 PM

Aussie_Bloke Where can im find a transcript of this episode? Jan 17th 2006, 8:22 PM

ziostilon It was like one of the best episode of the season,... Jan 17th 2006, 11:29 PM

Atlantians Geeze. This is why I like the America's Army F... Jan 18th 2006, 12:53 AM

Aussie_Bloke look out.... I can sense another long-winded Atlan... Jan 18th 2006, 2:37 AM

Raxor em and atlantis, stop posting useless crap in an e... Jan 18th 2006, 6:57 AM

Auntie Em! There are a lot of plot holes in the episode. Te... Jan 18th 2006, 11:07 AM

ted_simple I guess the security was the red shirt. I just wi... Jan 18th 2006, 11:45 AM

stargate loyal fan what does everyone think of the new defence plan a... Jan 18th 2006, 11:40 AM

Dutch Anubis Great Episode, it's starting to build up for a... Jan 18th 2006, 3:05 PM

Gebosowulo What an awful episode. The acting was alright and ... Jan 18th 2006, 5:28 PM

Mental Case I thought like others that episode was pretty bad,... Jan 18th 2006, 8:08 PM

UltimateW What worried me was the mindcontrol over Teyla. I... Jan 18th 2006, 8:22 PM

Yamarin at least they are headed towards moving the storyl... Jan 19th 2006, 9:17 PM

Ilzy Considering that the comments here lean either on ... Jan 20th 2006, 4:08 PM

Gebosowulo Plot holes are really not so much of a problem; as... Jan 21st 2006, 4:16 PM

BarryMel i just watched this episode, was a good one :) but... Jan 24th 2006, 2:38 PM

Auntie Em! In the one to the side there is a cowboy hat in pl... Jan 26th 2006, 9:45 PM

Radagast The overall story in this episode is actually very... Jan 26th 2006, 9:57 PM

Auntie Em! None of the Stargate program SFs have bullet proof... Jan 26th 2006, 10:06 PM

Radagast None of the Stargate program SFs have bullet proo... Jan 27th 2006, 2:35 PM

Atlantians Note on the Wraith dream part of the episode: It ... Jan 26th 2006, 10:15 PM

Auntie Em! I agree. It was stupid for the SF's to have re... Jan 27th 2006, 10:17 PM

Radagast Did you notice when they were escorting him up the... Jan 29th 2006, 11:04 AM

Jade I would have to say this is one of the worst episo... Jan 30th 2006, 7:39 AM

Pitry A shame I knew Michael is a Wraith. It'd proll... Feb 3rd 2006, 5:35 PM

PokeThePuddle wow... i didn't suspect michael was a wraith u... Feb 10th 2006, 10:10 PM

Pegasus Angel And the best bit was McKay in the cafe complaining... Feb 16th 2006, 9:37 AM

drstargate Season 2, Episode 18 - Michael Air Dates: CA: Ja... Feb 19th 2006, 4:30 AM

drstargate Oh my god, I love stargate atlantis and the idea ... Feb 19th 2006, 4:40 AM

linda_lol This episode made me pissy. I really liked Michea... Feb 24th 2006, 11:25 PM

Goa'uld This episode made no sense at all. In the episode ... Feb 24th 2006, 11:36 PM

J&S4Ever This episode made no sense at all. In the episode... May 11th 2006, 10:07 PM

xayeidemon Ethically, this was one of the worst things I... Feb 25th 2006, 12:38 AM

Mau Ethically, this was one of the worst things I... Apr 16th 2006, 5:59 PM

fan_83 als but its the human way... we all have such outs... Feb 25th 2006, 8:29 AM

Trudi~ Wow, I thought that this was a great episode. Ever... Feb 25th 2006, 11:45 AM

tauri129 i did like this episode. it raised some really goo... Feb 25th 2006, 12:16 PM

spookwomann When a drug is created here it goes through tests ... Feb 25th 2006, 4:58 PM

gabor They are not actually killing the wraith, they ar... Feb 25th 2006, 5:08 PM

spookwomann in my interpretation that means that the original ... Feb 25th 2006, 5:45 PM

LyaOfTheNox I was really dissapointed in this episode. When I ... Feb 25th 2006, 11:00 PM

gabor There are instances all the time where we tell pe... Feb 26th 2006, 7:02 AM

IndyJan I knew from this forum that Michael was a Wraith. ... Feb 25th 2006, 11:20 PM

blackbelt83 I dint Think he was a wraith that was a surprize t... Feb 27th 2006, 1:02 AM

I'm a janitor at the SGC 715 i thought it was an ok episode...kind of dark thou... Feb 28th 2006, 3:51 AM

Dafmeister The moral issue aside, this wasnt such a bad episo... Mar 1st 2006, 4:21 PM

JC1 This was a strange episode and not a very good one... Mar 1st 2006, 6:50 PM

chelle_b Yeah, I also thought this episode seemed a little ... Mar 2nd 2006, 8:06 AM

Dafmeister It was. He lied when he said it was the one that t... Mar 2nd 2006, 9:47 AM

shogi Did anyone else find it strange how Michael knew e... Mar 2nd 2006, 12:17 PM

shogi Did anyone else find it strange how Michael knew ... Mar 28th 2006, 7:19 AM

spookwomann Ane how he knew what a cd was and where to put it. Mar 2nd 2006, 3:47 PM

hobo_joe20 Did anyone else find it strange how Michael knew ... Mar 2nd 2006, 3:50 PM

spookwomann What was it about 2 days on atlantis being "h... Mar 2nd 2006, 3:59 PM

IndyJan As far as the moral issues in this episode, in the... Mar 3rd 2006, 1:54 AM

I'm a janitor at the SGC 715 As far as the moral issues in this episode, in th... Mar 3rd 2006, 2:11 AM

Christy I dont think it can help you read because of the l... Mar 31st 2006, 6:58 AM

Sighfienerd I'm with Xay on this issue about them doing t... Apr 2nd 2006, 5:17 PM

Dafmeister Hmmm. I think the point was that they are suppose... Apr 2nd 2006, 5:52 PM

Sighfienerd If you look at it from the Wraiths' perspecti... Apr 2nd 2006, 6:06 PM

thefirstone maybe michael saw Dr. Beckett using one when he wa... Apr 3rd 2006, 7:45 AM

Sighfienerd maybe michael saw Dr. Beckett using one when he w... Apr 3rd 2006, 6:32 PM

Samantha Carter 1013 Hi! first time in a forum :) :( :D and I... Jun 27th 2006, 12:52 PM

Captain Connor Ok... I'm about to broach a dangerous subject ... Jun 30th 2006, 9:09 AM

Dafmeister As to 'experimenting' on Michael, you coul... Jun 30th 2006, 10:17 AM

Captain Connor The thing is though, they weren't trying to c... Jun 30th 2006, 10:32 AM

Christy While I do not think it fair that they experiment ... Jul 15th 2006, 8:12 AM

Gate Jumper This one, is far worst and the evil "face... Jul 15th 2006, 8:30 AM

Dafmeister While I do not think it fair that they experiment... Jul 15th 2006, 9:53 AM

IndyJan There are a number of issues with this episode. F... Jul 27th 2007, 2:45 AM