Season 2, Episode 16 - The Long Goodbye

Air Dates:
CA: Jan. 2, 8 PM (TMN)
US: Feb. 10, 9 PM (Sci Fi Channel)
UK: Feb. 15, 8 PM (Sky One)

Alien combatants look to settle an ancient score by using Weir and Sheppard as pawns.

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This was a good episode. Was not based on any previous SG-1 episodes which is where the series seems to have drawn most of its ideals lately so that was a nice ideal.

It did not turn out how I thought either so it was good.
Nice to see Weir take on and kick 5 SF in the ass. Caldwell seems to have come back from his little episode with the Goa'uld well. His ego seems to have been knocked down a peg or two as well. Nice. He is a bit short sighted and cannot see two many steps in the future. I guess that is in keeping with his character.

Teyla is looking good. Both physically and with her character. Getting more depth. I believe she was about to kill Shep. Though, I thought she would have just hit a nonvital area than let Beckett fix him. Than there is poor Ronan. Poor, poor Ronan. What else can I say. Such a big strong man to be shot like that by Weir. Oh well. Not much else to say. It was a good episode.

This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Jan 2nd 2006, 8:56 PM

I thought this was a pretty good episode. The one big problem I have is this: Stargate has a huge history of people getting taken over in various ways by various things. Why was it not already standard procedure in any such case that their command codes were not already deactivated?

Especially after already encountering such a problem so recently.

Ronan only got shot because he was told (and believed) that Weir was not in the room.

Also they might want to think about some Kevlar or something around important consoles (like where the ZPM is!) they keep getting shot up...

Great ep.. Always nice to see bullets flying..

Of course I'm imagining McKay being possessed by the guy and taking down a crapload of marines.. Now that would've made my day..

Or maybe even Beckett, hehe ^_-

I enjoyed this episode. It was exciting, packed with suspense, love and hatred, comedy (from Beckett). Truly a classical tale.

This has got to be the best Weir & Sheppard episode so far Higginson performed fantastically - she opened a big can of whoop ass!


9/10

Favorite bits --



- Ooh... lol




- The realization of the "kiss", poor embarassed Weir




- Go Weir! Go Weir!



- Bound and busted! lol


Also, love the bit when Beckett says,

"Go get torches..."

*S.O looks confused*

"Flashlights!"

lol





This post has been edited by Carter-Hot: Jan 3rd 2006, 12:41 PM

I'm with you Radagast.

I'm kind of surprised that Caldwell was the only one to voice his disapproval with Sheppard taking on the new consciousness. Maybe it's just too hard for anyone else to say no to Dr. Weir.

This post has been edited by JaffaKree: Jan 3rd 2006, 12:34 PM

It was a nice episode, when we don't have enemies at bay, we fight with each other
Two things though:
1. Radagast wrote

I forgot about this, but I wanted to ask wasn't there a procedure that requires that all major commands have to be approved (by codes) by two senior officers? I mean, "lockdown" and "release of halon" are "major" commands, aren't they?
2. The use of Halon Fire Suppression Systems for living quarters...I think they said (in the script) they have it installed just to give "Weir" something to threat, something to convince them to do her way...I know that this kind of system is not use (anymore) in spaces with people activities. Any thoughts on this?

good episode in general, seeing weir take down those sf's was amazing.
i also thought that the bullet that got pulled out of ronan was just a fragment, and a P90 at that range would just go through someone leaving a nasty exit wound aswell.

dave

good ep, who wrote it this week, i didnt bother to check

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Written by Damian Kindler

I agree with the minor plot holes:

1. The Halon fire suppression system. Ah, no! They are surrounded by water and they install a life snuffing system? Why bother, it would kill the persons the fire suppression system is suppose to save!

2. The security codes for Weir should have immediately been locked out as soon as they knew she was compromised

3. Sheps codes should have been locked out before they let him be occupied.

4. Ronan would have been WAY more injured and from the location of the shot maybe a bladder injury, bowel resection would have been needed with possible a colostomy bag being applied, and maybe a spinal injury as well.

However, all those aside I thought it was an excellent episode. Really enjoyed it and and did not feel bored like that last episode!

Sorry to ask this here, but does anyone know why this episode didn't come out on torrent websites ? Its already been 2 days and i can't find it. I live in new zealand so this the only way i get to see stargate.

About the Halon; I don't think they were installed in the living quarters but Weir connected the Halon system to lifesupport so I guess it would spread through airconditioning ducts or something like that.

Well, water doesn't nessicarily snuff out all fires (ie electrical) so it makes sense to have some other form of fire-retardent system.

But I totally agree on the command-code thingy. Still, this episode was fairly well written, and acted I must say. I was impressed :)

Now its only a few more days until BSG and new SG-1!


If I were you, I would avoid that sort of question here. The whole downloading thing is sort of looked down upon on this site.

Radagast! The Brown!!

You did not leave with Gandalf?

What do you think about your bud Sarumen getting knifed?!!!



Anyway: I hope to see this episode soon.(blasted Sci-Fi channel and their annoying waiting period.)

congrats?

I'm confused as to the point of this post ... I feel it would be better suited as a PM

The few plot holes ignored (yes, the code system was odd, two people should be needed to give the commands) this episode was really good.

At first it seemed that we'll get lots of sentiment: Shep and Weir calling each other 'hopeless romantic', talks about the last farewell kiss... and then it all suddenly changed and the episode took an unpredictable turn. The acting was really good, I especially liked the nice interplay between Shep and Weir, the way Ronan and Teyla (!!!) acted out their loyalities, and why hasn't anyone mentioned the wonderful fights between col. Coldwell and McKay yet?

This really is a 9/10 episode, another one in the row that made me like Atlantis more than I did before. And yes, I forgot to mention some other humour bits - the story of TV and the look on Weir's face at the very end

hey guys, what hapepned with the kiss between Sheppard & Weir? i live in the UK and won't get to see this episode for ages! Why did they kiss? I can't wait to see this episode, for the kiss alone, he he!

They ware taken over by two aliens which ware husband and wife, but also enemies.

So this was like a last goodbye kiss, before they started killing each other.

aww crap i thought it would be something like that! oh well, maybe now it could promt them to get together.... he he!

They weren't married! That was just what the woman who was embodied in Weir said to make them revive the other guy! She claimed that it's her husband and that she just wants to say goodbye to him before she fades away forever but as it turned out the guy was her deadliest enemy. They were both the last people of two planets who had fought each other til death and all the woman wanted was to be the last one standing so her planet would be the winner. The kiss was just a distraction and the guy in Shep was too surprised to even respond to the kiss.

That was worst episode.
Ronan was fired but got only one bullet.
And why Coldwell didnt contacted with Dedalus and use transport beam to catch Weir and Sheppard.

They tried to contact the Big D! However, they could not.

I really loved this episode. I think it my be my favorite one this season so far.

Weir kicking totally butt in this episoded was awesome . I've been waiting for them to do something that would allow Torri to do something out of the norm for Weir. It was refreshing to see Weir not her normal composed self. There's just something about her.. I mean when phebus(spelling?) was supposedly letting her talk, you can tell it was an act.

I wasn't that happy with Sheppard's part in this. Thalan(again spelling?) played just like Sheppard, I could understand why Ronan would really think it was Sheppard. The only thing Thalan did different then Shep was run away from a fight.

And about them doing something about Weir's Command Codes, I totally agree with everyone that should have been the first thing done. Nut Caldwell was incharge, what else can be said? Besides I think it was actualy Rodney that pointed it out to him that'd have been the first thing he (Rodeny) would have done if Caldwell had allowed him to take charge.