Great episode. Not so much a cliffhanger as in SG1 but still left me wishing the next season started next week! How cool does the orion look! I love the way sheppard motivates mckay!

does anybody think we will/will not see liutenant ford again and when????

This post has been edited by stargate loyal fan: Mar 16th 2006, 2:28 PM

Have a look at this thread.

And why the hell not? The worst a prior can do is spout crap from the book of origin. Where as, the Wraith would just be straight in there with the hand to the chest and start lifesucking.

That would be totally totally sweet to see that done in an episode.

Have you even seen season 9? Have you seen what a Prior can do? Watch 'Beachhead', a Prior launched a group of Jaffa into space. Watch 'The Fourth Horseman' to see what a Prior did while it was in the Sodan village.

I've seen the ENTIRE season 9.

We shot the prior in the Sodan village. Also that was against humans, Wraith on the other hand are a hell of a lot stronger and bigger than a prior. Plus they can stun the Prior first.

The Priors' telekinetic abilites mean that his opponent's strength means nothing as he could "push" any Wraith away before they got close to him. There is no way for a Wraith to get anywhere near a Prior let alone close enough to feed from him.

But if they used a stunner on him first... that would allow them to get to him.

It worked when Mitechel zatted the Prior in the Soddan village.

That was only because Daniel managed to get the anti-Prior device working. It would have been a different story if the Prior had still been able to use his powers.

But still, telekinetics only works on objects comprised of matter not energy. Therefore the energy pulse of the stunner cannot be manipulated by the prior.

How do you know that the Prior couldnt create a shield to protect himself? Even if he couldnt do that, he would notice that the Wraith had a weapon and would stop the Wraith from getting to a position where it could be a threat with or without weapon. Since the likelyhood of the Wraithever meeting the Priors is negligable, we'll never find out.

It's a good thing we know exactly how the Priors manipulate stuff. We have seen in SG-1 that ascended beings have the ability to manipulate energy (Oma blocks Daniel's attack on Anubis), and we know that the Priors get their power from the Ori. So we cannot make any assumptions on what they can/cannot do.

[EDIT] DAMMIT! Daf beat me again!

This post has been edited by hobo_joe20: Mar 16th 2006, 4:19 PM

Prior didnt do that when Vala had the P90 in The Ties That Bind because that was a matter based weapon (bullets) that he could manipulate. An energy based weapon (stunner, zat, etc.) he cant control and therefore there would be no point and nothing he can do.

And I beleive with will see it happen, as that will be how the Ori situation from the S9 finale will be resolved. Wraith lifesuck the priors, we shot the wraith. We WIN!

1/ Did you even read my post?
2/ They will not crossover the baddies from the 2 shows.

Before the Prior sent those Jaffa on their lovely long distance ride they tried to SHOOT him with their energy based staff weapons and those had no effect on the Prior and the SHIELD he can create with his staff. So your idea that the Priors cannot handle energy based weapons is well....baseless.

From what iv heard i doubt the wraith will ever make contact with the ori becuase the writers want sg1 and sga storylines to remain different........... and if it did the ori would deffffffff win, the ancients only lost becuase they lacked numbers, but the ori dont, and they seem to have better sheilds......so i wonder what will happen to prevent the wraith ships from getting too earth, what about the team getting the enzyme (or how ever u spell it) to affect the wraith, or mckay doing something to there ships systems, virus, etc. what do u all think

Well I hope this argument convinced you because you are talking nonsense puseyuk.

The only way a wraith could suck the life out of a prior is sneaking behind his back and even that is not possible
because he was able the sense Mitchell while he was using the sodan cloak.

My take on the Ancients losing to the Wraith is not primarily down to numbers (though that might have contributed to the Ancients jettisoning to the Milky Way above schedule) but to philosophy. The Ancients won every battle, and yes the wraith were numerous. But I get the feel that Ancients don't seem to have been as aggressive as modern humans. They stayed in their cities to work on various projects and allowed the Wraith to be the aggressor. This might be to do with the Ancients being on their way to ascension. If your goal to to leave the material world, then why be aggressive to your enemy? Just jump ship and then concentrate on ascending.

This post has been edited by Halb: Mar 17th 2006, 7:20 AM

Yes you're right about the ascending part on the other hand I don't know if they too into account all the billions of helpless people they would be leaving behind.

I agree that they didn't excatly have a strategy against the Wraith.

They could have concentrated all their assets within 2 or 3 heavily guarded solar systems where they would produce aurora class ships on a massive scale, have R&D centers,.. and slowly gain sector by sector until they would eventually find a quicker solution to the problem instead they just defended themselves.

To stop the wraith ships they should put the ZPM on to the Deadalus and tie it into the shields and then just ram in to the hive ships the shield should hold up with the ZPM powering them.

Except ramming the hive ships wouldn't really do anything. Have you seen how much larger the Hive ships are than the deadalus? Much, much bigger ...

If you hit it at a decent speed you would do some damage, a bullet isn?t very big but it can do lots of damage when it hits something.

A bullet is also pointed, and designed to penetrate a surface, causing as much damage as possible in doing so. The deadalus wasn't built for ramming. Especially when the thing it's ramming has been designed to survive attacks from millions of these tiny little "bullets".

Well there you go then, A idea for a design for a new ship, a ramming ship, it could be made to be unmanned. They could call it the Nautilus that was a ship that was designed for raming.