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| dr lee |
 Mar 17th 2006, 4:00 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,342 Joined: February 16th 2005 From: england Member No.: 8,109 Gender: Male  |
i'm not sure if it's been commented on already but i've read an interview with Connor Trinner that has him stating that although Brent Strait was the person in the make-up on-screen it was his voice that we all heard. Unfortunatly the source that i got this from is Gateworld, and we all know how great Gateworld is don't we?  . I don't know if there is anywhere else that has this bit of info so i could be wrong in saying this. |
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| neb220 |
Mar 17th 2006, 5:57 PM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: March 17th 2006 Member No.: 11,488 Gender: Male |
As it was brought up by someone earlyer our weapons mostly seem inefective because they get intercepted by the wraith darts. And using a shield to ram a wraith hive wouldnt work, the sheild would disperse the inpact from both sides, and eventually our ships would break apart from the force |
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| tinydancer |
Mar 17th 2006, 8:01 PM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: June 10th 2005 From: Australia Member No.: 9,252 Gender: Female |
What a cliffie ...
 Although, I think it unlikely that they'll actually reach Earth with Sheppard and McKay on board. Still, it would be cool if like, the Asguard were to rock up and open some major Whoop Ass on them. But it's doubtful. Great episode!  |
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| Parmenides |
Mar 17th 2006, 8:21 PM
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Birds ate his face. Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: October 22nd 2004 From: Glezgae, Shkotlan' Member No.: 6,770 Gender: Male |
Wowzers! This was epic! Far preferred this to SG-1's finale - the only superb thing about Camelot was the ending, whereas Allies was consistent throughout.
I actually believed (for the most part) that the Wraith would honour their word, and (given how cynical I am), that's some hella' good writing! (even though the ending had been spoiled for me... )It was very chilling to see the Wraith walking freely through Atlantis...though this was tempered by the hilarity of everyone's reactions to having to work with them! Weir portrayed qualities actually becoming of a leader, which is a rarity, and her quick-thinking on the non-networked computer gave her more brownie points!The cliffhanger was okay...I mean, it's quite tense...but not as much as it would've been in years past. Wow, two Wraith ships - we should be able to handle that (well...maybe not...  ); it was nowhere near as dramatic as the SG-1 'hanger though.....and now we play the waiting game... |
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| Alley |
 Mar 18th 2006, 8:19 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: March 16th 2006 Member No.: 11,482 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Jan 30th 2006, 9:03 PM)  What do you mean what is the next episode? There is none. That is it! You mean that's it, the last season and i have only seen the first two episodes because i don't have that channel so i have to read the transcripts and look at screen caps. |
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 18th 2006, 8:25 AM
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General  Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
'Allies' is the final episode of season 2. The first episode of season 3 airs in July in the US and October in the UK.
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| Alley |
 Mar 18th 2006, 8:26 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: March 16th 2006 Member No.: 11,482 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(mrnobody @ Jan 31st 2006, 3:33 AM) it would be surprising that the wraith would come into SG1's storyline, considering that they already have one bad guy to fight (which are the ori). but if the wriath do apear it will be in season 10 of stargate sg1. im betting that the two hive ships wont even make it to the milky way. the orion will kick its but before that happens. also i noticed for the first time how small the deadulas is compared to the hive ships and the orion is huge so it will be a good stand off between a hive ship and the orion. ps does anyone know if they have started writing scripts for season 3 of SGA, and where would one go to see some spoilers and such of this If you go to Gate wrold and you go to Atlantis seasons, there is a season three so i guess they have |
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| vwrestler171 |
Mar 19th 2006, 2:17 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: March 11th 2006 From: Tooele, UT Member No.: 11,398 Gender: Male |
I just saw a repeat of this episode and it kicked ass, although I hate cliffhangers like this.Oh well guess I have to wait for July to see what ahappens
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| master_shake |
Mar 20th 2006, 1:23 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: December 30th 2005 Member No.: 10,766 Gender: Male |
 Look I don't care what anything body say the wraith the PLAYED us. I know they sad that they would tell all the other wraith if we didn't help them but for real the wraith PLAYED us. I mean and the thing that got me the most is that trusted them. I mean except for when tayla remember they are the wraith no body questioned them. I mean McKay hopped a an acted like evey this was all cool, and that's crazy. As scary as he is. I know we're goning to win in the end, but I would have to walk around with my head down for a wild if I was Shep because of how bad I got PLAYED. I can't think of one time when the goa'ud just got over on us like that. All I got to say is : Shep step your game up baby!!!!!! And I hope u get at them in season 3. |
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| shogi |
Mar 21st 2006, 9:22 AM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: February 3rd 2006 Member No.: 11,073 Gender: Male |
Not sure if this has been mentioned before (apologies if it has
 ), but do you think the Wraith ship they were looking to deploy the retrovirus was the same ship which joined up with the friendly Wraith ship when they attacked the Daedalus class ship as soon as it came out of the hyperdrive??QUOTE(Source @ Feb 1st 2006, 8:35 PM) Season 1 Episode 15: Weir went back in time and met the Ancients and they told her that they sent their most powerful warships to peace talks with the Wraith which the Wraith agreed too. It was a trap and that led to the evactuation of Atlantis. Now i know that, that Weir died but... she aslo told the story to the others including about the Wraith peace talks trap. You think they's learn wouldn't you? How true....when will humans learn This post has been edited by shogi: Mar 21st 2006, 9:23 AM |
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| Auntie Em! |
Mar 21st 2006, 10:33 AM
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Sipping on fine wine!  Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
Yes. I think that was just part of the rouse (sp?). Those ships are mostly bio and self healing. It would be like taking a couple of knocks to leave some bruises to "prove" you were assaulted. They did that to make the Atlantis team believe them more and gain some level of trust. Which seemed to have worked well I think.
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| shogi |
Mar 21st 2006, 11:50 AM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: February 3rd 2006 Member No.: 11,073 Gender: Male |
It has been mentioned in a lot of posts.......don't worry the Orion + Daedalus will take care of the 2 Hive ships on the way to Earth BUT when Shep asked McKay whether the shields + hyperdrive + weapons were up & running he said yes to all but the weapons.
Now my understanding was that as soon as the Hive ship made contact with Atlantis & it was decided we would form an alliance, the Daedalus came straight back & the Orion was left just out of sensor range....when did McKay have a chance to fix Orion's weapons  (he DEF gave a negative response when Shep asked him 1st time round). Once the alliance was formed he ONLY worked with the Wraith & their ship. |
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 21st 2006, 12:33 PM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(shogi @ Mar 21st 2006, 4:50 PM) It has been mentioned in a lot of posts.......don't worry the Orion + Daedalus will take care of the 2 Hive ships on the way to Earth BUT when Shep asked McKay whether the shields + hyperdrive + weapons were up & running he said yes to all but the weapons. Now my understanding was that as soon as the Hive ship made contact with Atlantis & it was decided we would form an alliance, the Daedalus came straight back & the Orion was left just out of sensor range....when did McKay have a chance to fix Orion's weapons (he DEF gave a negative response when Shep asked him 1st time round). Once the alliance was formed he ONLY worked with the Wraith & their ship.There are other scientists on the Atlantis team besides Zelenka and McKay. McKay could easily have told others what to do and allowed them to get the weapons working. |
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| shogi |
Mar 21st 2006, 1:06 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: February 3rd 2006 Member No.: 11,073 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Mar 21st 2006, 5:33 PM) There are other scientists on the Atlantis team besides Zelenka and McKay. McKay could easily have told others what to do and allowed them to get the weapons working. Good point Daf but this leaves me to think that the ship will DEF take a lot longer to repair than if McKay was working on it. Zelenka's (other scientists) good BUT he aint no McKay. This post has been edited by shogi: Mar 21st 2006, 1:08 PM |
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| fan_83 |
Mar 21st 2006, 6:27 PM
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Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: November 11th 2004 Member No.: 6,930 Gender: Male |
lol.... i actually believe that left to themselves the otehr scientist,zelenka included are better than mckay.. you bring in mckay only in emergencies and stressed situation...
otherwise mckay is too distruptive remember zelenk losing patience when tryign to get mckay and cadman separated |
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| nickcphsas |
Mar 21st 2006, 9:22 PM
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QUOTE(DADDA @ Jan 31st 2006, 9:43 AM) Hi, everyone Iam wondering when do we see the next season and the episode following Allies? I belive it will take 3 mouths or so, but I would like to now the exact date when it is aired. Both in USA and Canada would be great! I need to put a time and date in my calender, so Iam prepared... But I do still not beleave that the wraith are heading for Earth, what a missurable misstake... It would be good to see a other spices then 'The Asgard' saveing them. It would be great if someone like 'Dr Wier' is a furling and has a fuling Battleship to fight the 'Wraith' Hive ships. It would be a great turn of the story line, would it not? In the united states of america the stargate series well start back up in july but i don't now the exact day of the month |
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| shogi |
Mar 22nd 2006, 9:23 AM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: February 3rd 2006 Member No.: 11,073 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Mar 21st 2006, 3:33 PM) Yes. I think that was just part of the rouse (sp?). Those ships are mostly bio and self healing. It would be like taking a couple of knocks to leave some bruises to "prove" you were assaulted. They did that to make the Atlantis team believe them more and gain some level of trust. Which seemed to have worked well I think. Seemed to have worked all too well (great ploy by the Wraith (was gonna say?.not just a pretty face after all BUT then I thought, who am I kidding lol)!! And in all fairness when the Daedalus came out of hyperspace and took all those hits before the shields were raised, makes me believe that the Wraith weapons are good but not amazing (only reason they did so well against Atlantis was because of Wraith numbers??) |
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| Aquila |
Mar 23rd 2006, 11:16 PM
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First Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 703 Joined: April 13th 2004 From: Cultivating American Beech and Chestnut trees Member No.: 4,810 Gender: Male |
Mmmm...
T'was a tasty episode for sure! The cliff hanger is too good to be true...I can't wait that long for the resolve!!! Agh! I wonder if the Asgard are going to start getting into the fight a little more with both the Wraith and the Ori forces in our galaxy?  Now's a good time for the Furlings to show up....oopse. |
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| Christy |
Mar 28th 2006, 12:46 AM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 990 Joined: August 18th 2004 From: Australia Mate! Member No.: 6,098 Gender: Female |
I was suprised by this episode but have to say it was well written.
It was good to see the Michael character back in the season and for the wraith to be involved in a good way but then them backstabbing Atlantis and all that. I wish Connor was back as Michael cause he is such a cutie but we cant have everything now can we? I'm looking for the 2nd part of the episode but hope they do not follow along the same line as SG1 did in their Season 2 opening. |
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| Revan |
Mar 28th 2006, 12:48 AM
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Dark Lord of The Sith  Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
Why didn't they put Trineer in Wraith makeup?
I am wondering if the Wraith had planned what they did in the end all along... Had they done it later out of necessity, or was it premeditated.... a ploy to get to Earth all along? |
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| dr lee |
Mar 28th 2006, 5:48 AM
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Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,342 Joined: February 16th 2005 From: england Member No.: 8,109 Gender: Male |
QUOTE I wish Connor was back as Michael cause he is such a cutie but we cant have everything now can we? » Click for Spoiler « QUOTE Why didn't they put Trineer in Wraith makeup? It was something to do with either his wife giving birth or a family death that meant he couldn't appear, but i read an interview with CT and he stated that although it was Brent Strait that appeared on screen as Michael it ws actually CT that you heard talking. |
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| shogi |
Mar 28th 2006, 7:41 AM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: February 3rd 2006 Member No.: 11,073 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Revan @ Mar 28th 2006, 5:48 AM) Why didn't they put Trineer in Wraith makeup? I am wondering if the Wraith had planned what they did in the end all along... Had they done it later out of necessity, or was it premeditated.... a ploy to get to Earth all along? SPECULATING (so do please forgive us) . I believe that once the Wraith had been awoken from their sleep & were under the impression that New feeding grounds had been found (or old 1's replenished), they sent out as many ships as they could to see if that was the case (most races had either moved on (hidden) or died out). Once they realised that they have been woken up early (no food to be found anywhere/ not enough anyway?!?), by a new species (humans), they decided that they would have to be their new food source. So where are they & how do we get there?? If that is the case, then maybe they have been plotting something similar to this (take over the base etc (get star map)) BUT once Michael had been experimented on, this gave the Wraiths the ideal opportunity to deal with us. And therefore I believe they could have been plotting this, from the very early days (again on speculating? ) |
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| Revan |
Mar 28th 2006, 10:03 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(shogi @ Mar 28th 2006, 7:41 AM) SPECULATING (so do please forgive us) . I believe that once the Wraith had been awoken from their sleep & were under the impression that New feeding grounds had been found (or old 1's replenished), they sent out as many ships as they could to see if that was the case (most races had either moved on (hidden) or died out). Once they realised that they have been woken up early (no food to be found anywhere/ not enough anyway?!?), by a new species (humans), they decided that they would have to be their new food source. So where are they & how do we get there?? If that is the case, then maybe they have been plotting something similar to this (take over the base etc (get star map)) BUT once Michael had been experimented on, this gave the Wraiths the ideal opportunity to deal with us. And therefore I believe they could have been plotting this, from the very early days (again on speculating? )Except they had been thwarted by the 'destruction' of Atlantis. So... new plan.  |
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| shogi |
Mar 29th 2006, 7:23 AM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: February 3rd 2006 Member No.: 11,073 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Revan @ Mar 29th 2006, 3:03 AM) Except they had been thwarted by the 'destruction' of Atlantis. So... new plan. That never occurred to me (how mad is that ??), to busy speculating!!  Maybe that?s why they were so intent on getting the hyperdrive info from the 'Aurora' episode. That way, they could just spread out as far as they could & increase their feeding territory (& in the process find EARTH )?? |
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