Guys you must realise the Daedalus is very very advanced. The Asgard have fitted it with the very latest of asgard tech....just look at the picture where the wraith are shooting it and the Daedalus is easily blocking the shots with the Asgard Shields! (those same shots made the satelite into scrap metal!! ).

I think the daedalus takes care of not just the hives...but also the remaianing cruisers and darts with help from the 302's.

The bullets we see hitting the Atlantis shield are most likely from the next wave of Wraith hive ships coming later in the episode. The Daedalus will most likely hide under the shield with the rest of the team. (we do see it landing in the pics).

I don't think the Deadulas alone could take on all those Hive ships no matter how advanced it is. It would be out-numbered and out-gunned. The X-302's would be a match for the Wraith Darts but again there would be too many Darts to deal with.

unless... the x302's have shields... and phasers.... and hyperdrive engines, so they can run, recharge their shields and come back....

Has anyone though of creating an EM pulse yet>>>>

Some things to look for in tomorrow's episode: (if you want more ask me)
The following are from SCIFI Inside: SCIFI Friday









for anymore screencaps from SCIFI Friday ask me i'll try to get it!
Other than that, i look forward to tomorrow's episodes.

Some more:




A pic from Avalon, but its interior of F-302:


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What I don't understand is that with all the technology that the Ancients have, why couldn't they do some major damage to the Wraith?

How can humans from Earth destroy so many wraith with limited technology and hold Atlantis, and the Ancients had to flee and run through the Stargate back to Earth?

Is it just because they are that passive?

Anyway, it would be nice for the Asgard techician that is aboard the daedalus to stay at Atlantis and maybe help in the deciphering of the Ancients knowledge.

Has anyone ever thought why the Asgard never had, or were able to supply Earth with a ZPM?

Think of you and a hand full of soldiers say a few thousand taking on all off Chinas population. 1 billion soldiers running at your few thousands. Would you not run also?

That is what the Ancients faced back than.

going ever so slightly off topic here.

isn't tonite he premiere of SG1/SGA for you americans?

yes. I have to go to work and don't get to watch until 11:00pm.

u think that is bad.

unless i download the episodes i'll have to wait till sum time in october b4 UK sky one air S9-SG1/S2-SGA

ahahah i wonder how long aussies will have to wait... we're the backwater of the world... evrything comes here last....

i reckon its like israel vs. palestinians....

there are more palestinians than israelies.. so if most of the palestinians.. turn to voilence,Israel will get its butt kicked.. even with US backing, patriot missiles, nuclear warheads, bunker busters, heavy tanks.....

same thing

doesnt matter if u got all teh tech in the world... unless u got something that can seriously reduce the number factor..

y not find a virus that spreads through the air, and can inbibite the wraiths ability to either feed, or breed...

That ep kicked ass, but I'm disappointed Daedie had no energy weapons

Guys you must realise the Daedalus is very very advanced.
For an Earth Ship.

The Asgard have fitted it with the very latest of asgard tech....just look at the picture where the wraith are shooting it and the Daedalus is easily blocking the shots with the Asgard Shields!
As I recall the fight lasted less then 3 minuts and the Ship was almost destroyed.
And that was from the second group.
They tricked the wraith with a cool strategy, the wraith had not been attacked in this way:
The Daudelus(against the will of Hermiod) used its transporters to beem nukes into the last wraith ship, of the three.
When they encountered the second wave, they killed two....
The wraith made and used countermeasures and fried the daudelus.

The Daudelus does not even have Asgard weapons on it.

(those same shots made the satelite into scrap metal!! ).
The Sattelite was not shielded.

I think the daedalus takes care of not just the hives...but also the remaianing cruisers and darts with help from the 302's.
The Daudelus was pummled. It could barely raise its shields.

The bullets we see hitting the Atlantis shield are most likely from the next wave of Wraith hive ships coming later in the episode.
True. 10 wraith ships pummling Atlantis' shield, powered by a full ZPM, can only last a few days. That is with all the ZPM's power going to the shield.
No wonder the Ancients had to sink the city to protect it.
Think of hundreds attacking Atlantis, when not all ZPM energy is in the shield generator.
They had to sink the city to keep the Wraith from penetrating the shields.

The Daedalus will most likely hide under the shield with the rest of the team. (we do see it landing in the pics).
That is because the Daudelus could not fight anymore. She was half killed by the Wraith when they realised how we were using the transporters.


Also:
the Ancients, and the (current)Asgard hyperdrives are more efficient then Wraith hyperdrives, but apperently, their weapons are far more advanced then ours.
They have not had shields on yet.
Probably because they have not needed them yet. We have not even hit the Wraith ships with our weapons.
We only bypassed the shields that they might have.


The Wraith weapons, can defeat Atlantis' shields within weeks if it had three ZPMs, according to the logic that one ZPM holds them up for a few days, when all energy is in the shields, under constant bombardment.
The depth of the ocean, must really weeken the energy from the Wraiths shots.
It is also possible the Wraith wanted to capture Atlantis because it contained all their knoledge.



This post has been edited by Atlantians: Jul 15th 2005, 11:39 PM

woujldnt it also be harder to hit something in the water... and considering that water, distorts light.. i doubt any lazers would be effective....

Um. The Wraith use directed energy weapons. They disapate in water just like a kinetic weapon would.
Nukes would probably not withstand entering the water, and nukes shoot energy in every direction, they are not to effective against shields.
Directed energy weapons hit the shield with kinetic, and other forms of energy.
Nukes are kinetic weapons only.
And EM weapons, but EM pulses do not effect ancient tech, or Wraith tech. This is shown because the nukes exploding do not effect the Wraith ships ability to fight.

Daedalus actually took 3 ships of the second wave, I believe Either way it kicked ass, and one on one, all it had to was get closer to the Hive Ship, instead of firing from a long ass way back.

This post has been edited by X303kicksass: Jul 16th 2005, 12:37 PM

I remmember that only two of the second wave were destroyed. But if it was 9 ships left, it again shows that the Wraith are powerfull. If nine Hives can take out the Atlantis' shields in days, at most.

The Daudelus onlyt had missles and Rail guns.
It did get closer to the hives after it killed two, but it was utterly pummled.

It lost its shields within a minut of getting attacked by the Hives.
It lost its forward shield generator, and was pummled to 22% within another 30 seconds.
And it was manuevering and only getting hit with a fraction of the shots fired.
The Daudelus was way overmatched.

The Daudelus now has lost its only tech advantage in battle, which was beeming nukes into the hives.

Um, no bad example. If Israel wanted to, they could kill every single Palestinian. The only thing is, they don't want to (I think the rest of the world would frown on that too)

Though this is going a bit

This post has been edited by bigjohn_1972: Jul 16th 2005, 4:56 PM

I said one on one, of course against a whole fleet Daedie was gonna get pummeled. I was referrring to engaging a ship at the range of say the daedie got to that ship, manuevereing to run to hyperspace. Fire a few shot at that range, the hive ships aren't gonna be able to block them with darts.

This post has been edited by X303kicksass: Jul 16th 2005, 5:53 PM

very good episode is it just me or did the Daudelus look like a turtle

That is a good idea... Daedelous should tack on that good ole' cloak technology to it and come up behind a few wraith ships and do a skeeter meanuver and decloak, and attack where there would be secondary explosion's and just bug the sh*t outta them! Either that, or just decloak in front of one and use the rail-guns for the darts, & do some major skeeter damage and just be a serious pain in their ass's!!! There's enuf plot to just do a soap on atlantis and show the deadelous kicking ass to keep everyone happy... More Explosions!! YEA!!! WOOHOO!!!!



This post has been edited by Cornwalace: Jul 16th 2005, 7:32 PM

The Wraith could just shoot down the missles. And maby Wraith do have shields. We still do not know if their ships do.
We know the Wraith have shield technology though. IE: The Defiant One.

couldnt the asgaurd alter the freqeuency of the beam? or beam it near or next to a wraith hive ship??

Asgaurds should ahve really given us some phasers....
y couldnt they beam nukes on all of them all at once?

If the writers allowed that, we would have killed the entire Wraith fleet!

But hey, the goa'uld did it to the Tollans (marked and hit everything at once, except the one Ion Cannon that was hidden from them), so I would think the Asgard could have figured it out. That's almost a nit pick.