that was one fine episode there

the idea of the explosion sending them out was a good idea [made me think of Bat Out of Hell]
plus we got a nice new toy to play around with

also if they dont fix the sublight engines and the power systems of the Orion how will they get it to Atlantis seeing that the Daedalus dosent have Asgard towing capablilites....... I dont think

damn those are really nice and interesting pics

This episode was pretty damn good if I may say so. Finally, they are letting other people write for this show ... and it's GOOD! You go new guy (can't remember his name right now ...)

This episodes was entertaining, new, exciting, AND had a huge friggen spaceship. YES!

The only thing I can think of that would go against this episode: Sheppard didn't seem too concerned with Ronin and Teyla after they heard about Mackay's plan. A little "well, I hope they made it somewhere safe. We can't wait for them or we will jeopardize all these people" would have been nice. Overall, 9/10. I'm looking forward to the finale, although it appears to have come waaay too fast for my liking

Actually, it was replenished in the episode "the Tower". While not completely, I'm sure that the Orion was only needed to top off Atlantis's supply. They got around all this technicality stuff, and hence avoiding having to compare the storage size of the Orion and Atlantis, by saying "... and now with a full supply of drones ..."

Very close but one crucial point: They said it would not last as long. So maybe double it. Or triple it.
The Alteran shields would still be way more effective.


Also: I was hoping the Ship would be sleek and shiny... it resembles a Corellian Corvette CR90.

Here:


Also note: That ship was pretty dang small. Far smaller the Daedalus. Its bridge was just plain huge from the outside.

I was expecting a shiny big beautiful Atlantis style ship.

At least it is Ancient though and a ship.


Also: I still want to know if it is a "Warship" or simply "a ship".

This post has been edited by Atlantians: Jan 24th 2006, 11:43 PM

Atlantians, do you actually watch these episodes? You constantly post in these threads before watching the episode ... basically saying you can't wait to see the episode (in more words, but the same message nonetheless).

Friend lets me see them.
No further comment on the subject.

I am on 217 - Coup D'Etat as of this moment.

By next week I will just have seen Inferno hopefully.

But then I watch em again when they come on Sci-Fi.

This post has been edited by Atlantians: Jan 25th 2006, 12:08 AM

Then feel free to come back once you have seen the episode for yourself. I am aware that I am no mod, and can in no way force you to do so. However, I am pointing out to you that you add nothing to this discussion by asking what has happened, weeks in advance of you seeing the episode in question.

Oh I'm sorry Atlantians, how about:

She is Mother Theresa hot! ?

Naw, she was Hustler hot!! lol

Atlantian unpucker your testies and relax abit. Nothing wrong in enjoying a beautiful woman and saying she is HOT!

Its like us girls enjoying a well endowed man with his huge package nicely tucked to the right!

This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Jan 25th 2006, 2:03 AM

Ok first I must say this episode rocked, finally we find a planet with some thing cool and it doesn't get blown up YAY!!!

These people that we meet in this episode seemed very friendly and were very upfront about their lack of knowledge on Ancient Tech (maybe Rodey can learn something from them after all, it would stop him blowiwng up entire solar systems if he could). I believe that while the Chancellor was suspicious of our intentions it was clear to him that his peoples lives were at huge risk and also clear that the volcano was about to erupt. There was no time for organising security forces (noting that they seemed unaware of the dangers of the volcano and also how to deal with the situation they were in. They called us for help, they were desperate (although it was only because of their shield origonally.)) Also their top scientist (you know the really hot one) strongly agreed to listen to us Earthlings.

Thankfully these people don't seem like they have a huge military presence (if any), so the Chancellor again thankfully does not think like some one like the Genii. He seems very concerned about protecting his people but not fighting against the wraith/us a nice change.

I am glad the writers did not spend time in the episode creating another Genii type race, really the Genii are enough.

However can anyone remember exactly what Mckay said about Ancient shields? From what I recall, Mckay said that Ancient shields are not designed to be constantly running at full capacity, however in previous episodes we learned that the Atlantis shield could be sustained almost indefiently as long as it is not being strained from something like a wraith attack, or holding back water (however it did that for many thousands of years). So these shields that protect building like stuctures seem to automaticlly change in strength depending on the load. Why would this shield be diffenent and need manual adjusting to a specified power setting?
Also what type of shilds does this auroa class ship have? Is it equivilent to the powerfull Atlantis shield?

Oh and Mckay shows his inability to act normally infront of a girl again, and Shepard showed strong signs of wanting to take the girl instead (I don't blame him) but... why can't he atleast go for someone from Earth and not pick some chick from every planet he visits, he must have atleast 10 chicks after him now.

Radagast, the Atlantis shield can also be form fitting as it was when the city was under water, perhapps as their was limited power to the shield, and Mckay wanted to make it last as long as possible it reverted to be form fitting instead in egg shaped.

alterantian, I do not believe the drones were taken to the Atlantis chair, we got plenty for the chair from the atlantis clone in 'The Tower' (don't get me started on that ep, it completly degraded the uniqueness of the Atlantis city). The ship is planned to be repaired (Mckay said he could fix the sublight engines), so I think it is going to need its drones for the fight against the wraith.

Oh engines, that gets me to another thing, hyperspace window generators.... I thought it was not considered a good thing to activate a window in the atmosphere of a planet and thats why they go to orbit before going into hyperpace. Also I also thought a couple of seconds in hyperspace would send you far out into space (remember the FC-302 which took an active stargate through hyperspace for a couple of seconds and it travelled way outside the solar system at the very least) I was expecting the Orion to be stranded in the middle of nowhere and to be left with a cliff hanger or something a little dissapointed at the neat tidy up of the episode.

When I see the episode again I will probably have more to comment on, but I am anxiously awaiting 'Allies' which has to be brillient.

Eu nice nitpick on the shield generators Man. I do believe that you are absolutely correct on that matter.

Also nice nitpick on the hyperspace window again you are quite correct. The Orian should have been at least 1 million miles from the planet when the window closed. It was ridiculous that it nicely popped up right beside the Big D.

aaah, well who cares.....mayb it stopped because McKay wanted to stay in Orbit, like he said earlier....without the engines is would be foolish to go float in space....



What i was wondering about....why didn't they tried to bring the shield generator with them? It would surely come in handy for earth or for some ship.....

i bet they just did the hyperspace window like they did in the episode fail safe when they went through the earth, thats why they didnt appear so far

plus i like the asguard being rather funny these days

That's not really a good comparison, the people from the volcano (forgot their name) have not a clue how to operate ancient tech. They just push buttons and see what happens! I think it's perfectly reasonable to lend it to Atlantis because they will put it to good use.

btw, the shields were not made to last very long AT FULL STRENGTH! And the safety failure was overwritten.......


Remeber the problem was not the shielding, but the immense power requird!!! just like Atlantis' shield could only very long against the wraith attack.

So i think the really problem is that the shields from the ancients are made for maximum protection, but require huge ammounts of energy, ans thus are not designed for long duration (for it would consume 2 much energy), this shield was however forced to do so......

I don't see any mistakes.

They weren't in Hyperspace for even a second. All MaCay said was that the shields would last about 4 secs after the eruption, during which they could open an Hyperspace window.

Love this episode!

This episode is a good scifi-disaster and it was entertaining. It had everything! - Hot lead scientist, pressure, super-volcano, mistrust that leads to trust.

9/10!!

re: shield generator. Mackay said it could only be sustained indefinately when using a ZPM. We don't know what the effect of poweriing the shield with geothermal energy from a dormant volcano would do. (I have no idea what the difference in power is, so don't ask)

re: hyperspace window in the atmosphere. I believe they don't activate them inside the atmosphere because it causes something to become unstable. but when you're riding the wave of an active volcano that's going to kill off the entire planet anyways ... I somehow don't think they cared. Also, Mackay could have programmed the window to last only long enough to put them in orbit. We know it can be activated for small jumps (see 'Fail Safe' and the one with the eye of Ra).

this episode is wanna of the better episodes

Care to elaborate?

strange, in aurora, the class of ship is suppose to be big...yet it seemed so small from the pics...

http://www.snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/orion.jpg

looks bigger now?

edit: captured another pic
http://www.snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/orion2.jpg

btw in the episode when they are talking about taking the planets population to atlantis they say it would take 4 trips in there own ship ,but the orion can take the other people left behind which would have taken 3 trips so its atleast 3 times bigger

This post has been edited by snoop1050: Jan 25th 2006, 10:02 AM

Not nescesarly, perhaps the daedalus can't support that many people (but have the room for it). Think about enough breathable oxygen etc. Perhaps the Orion isn't that much bigger but it has the ability to sustain a lot more people. I do think it's bigger than daedalus though.

Certainly, that was post #3, we can look forward to many more like it!