Did anyone else notice? The front part of the ship looks like a head with two eyes and a nose. Just wondering.


PS

The ship looks bulky, which is not something you would expect from an advanced race. But of course that doesn't mean it lacks firpower. Will see.

Yeah, i would like to see what it got against a wraith hive ship.

Umm... they said that the Ancients didn't designed THAT shield to be constatnly running at full capacity due to the unstable power source.

Lots of already seen faces in this one: the president - doctor, blond scientist - Tok'ra, and I think I caught a glimpse of the guy who played Yu's first prime (and from the way my brother shouted I think I wasn't the only one )

The episode was really great both as a standalone and as an introduction for the season final. But probably the best part of it was the interaction between McKay and Shep - the way Shep has learned to push the right buttons to make Rodney work faster is hilarious! The plan of getting off the planet was also great in the way that it was similiar to Sam's "wacked idea" (quote by McKay) for saving Earth in "Redemption"

And one more thing: when the village guy started arguing and decided to leave all I could think of was: "there's always one like you in the crowd!"

EDIT: Yey with this post I gain the rank of 1st lieutenant!!!

This post has been edited by Ilzy: Jan 25th 2006, 4:20 PM

Double or triple is just a complete guess on your part. The way they said it in the episode, it sounded to me like they were saying sortof "This is suicide *because* we don't have the ZPM" - in other words the ZPM powered shields would have significantly more power.



They specifically called it a warship in this episode. Are those beam emmiters on each side?

Where exactly is the bridge on the outside? That pointy "hat" at the front? At first glance it looks like it but on second glance I'm not totally sure. As a rough guess, assuming that it IS the bridge, I'd put the overall length of the ship at at least 800 feet. Perhaps someone who's better at this can do a more accurate calculation.

That would make it somewhat smaller than a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. Still quite large though and big enough to hold a couple thousand people at least. Anyone know how big the D is?

I expect the reason it isn't shiny is simply because it is a warship and the Ancients had more important things on their mind (the older Azgard ships aren't exactly pretty either).

doubt we get to see it in action and find out until series 3.

Actually the word "hot" was not what was offensive. The other part of his statement saying she is hot in that one way. That was insulting in a motale sense.

Im not so up tight about saying "hot" anymore. But I won't use it my self.


And an FYI: I have known the entire plot of this episode for well over a month.

So I can certainly add to the conversation. I just have not seen the details.

One thing I find interesting is that the ship's external architecture is a polar oposite of everything we have seen of the Ancients before.

The outside is extremely rugged and industrial, and the inside is more Atlantisish.

The Puddle Jumpers are far more streamlined and pretty on the outside. But these 'Aurora class' (untill the actual class is named) ships are way on the other side of the scale of external looks.

Anyone care to think of a reason?



As for the Asgard shields. This is the quote about them:


This is the word severely.

The shields lasted under a minute under full barage from 3 hives. That is good.

The shields on Atlantis would have lasted for several days under full barrage from 10 Hive ships and at least two Cruisers(most likely over a dozen cruisers) for several days.

I highly dought that the "severely diminished" comment ment more then several times as strong.

So maybe the ship would have lasted another 5 or so minutes before getting destroyed. The point is the Atlantis shields are still way more effective and efficient.

This post has been edited by Atlantians: Jan 25th 2006, 9:03 PM

From the pictures where we see Shep enter the hanger I'd calculate the ship width to be around 140 - 160 meters (taking into account the human size to be 2m and that they are far away from the view point). From the lava scene I'd say the ship is 2.5 times longer than the width, which is around 350 - 400 meters.

I have no idea how big the Daedelus is but this is big in current day earth terms. The Airbus 380 is +- 80m wide (wing tip to wing tip) and 80m long.

I do agree however that they could have made it look better. Sure those guns/turrets look mean, but the ship itself looks like any other sci-fi ship... fill of pipes, tubes and bulges going from nowhere to somewhere.

Oh and, hello everyone ;)

He is way hotter!!! But why do the all the "smart? chicks have to look like playboy bunnies? They couldn't have dressed her in pantsuit or something? Or for that matter why are they never in there 40's or 50's and frumpy. They put lots and lots of older frumpy men in the show.

I like Novak. There should be more women like her in the show.

I also like it the way Dr Becker runs around in a panicky way to find a chair when they enter the bridge... reminded me of musical chairs lol.

There is also the possbility that the team was worrying about getting off the planet rather than how long the air was going to last in space. They had a better chance in space than on the ground.

I can't be too sure that he orion is an auora class though, from eps auora, the ship seemed to be 3-4 times bigger than the daedalus...

from this pic...

Are gates in the Pegasus galaxy make of naquadah like the original ones? If so, the gate should've absorbed energy from the lava after it sank and then exploded in a spectacular fashion when it got 'full'...


Slightly nitpicky point, but various episodes of SG1 have said what happens when you keep pumping energy into a gate.

Actually Penthouse Pet hot. She was Penthouse Pet of the Year in 1992 according to imdb.com

But the lava itself woldn't have provided energy. See "100 Days" and "48 Hours" in SG-1 to see what happens when stuff hits the gate. Basically an Iris would form over the gate, preventing any form or wormhole to connect, unless of course the gate itself was destroyed.

Sorry to add a comment but you haven't said it explicitly, so again for anyone who wonders: The gate will only charge up when there is an open wormhole. Not being connected, it won't absorb any energy. Even it is made from Naquadah, the material itself won't explode from coming in contact with lava.

This post has been edited by ted_simple: Jan 26th 2006, 9:40 AM

I can't check since I don't have the season 1 eps anymore, but didn't they say VERY early on that the gates were in fact not made from Naquedah? And possibly that Naquedah doesn't even occur in the Pegasus galaxy?

That's why the gates are blueish instead of gray. Not sure if they ever said exactly what it was made from though.

They are also more advanced versions of the stargates so perhaps they have improved failsafes which prevent overloading and explosions.

There's also the question of whether heat alone can cause Naquedah to explode - isn't it sometimes found very deep beneath the surface of planets, where it would already be quite hot? If lava-level heat were enough, those planets would have long since exploded.

Short answer: I'm not at all surprised the gate didn't blow up. I am surprised that the connection dropped so quickly but again perhaps that was a failsafe or perhaps the gate just melted.

how come this ship never appeared on the atlantis map like the aurora did?

It was inside a shielded base

It won't nessicarily charge up if there is an open wormhole though. See '100 Days' when a meteor strikes the gate and forms an 'iris' over it because the material could not penetrate past the event horizon. You need something that provides energy to 'charge' the gate. (such as energy-based weapon blasts, lightening strikes, etc). Lava only provides heat, not energy (in that sense).


Watch the episode. It is explained very early on (I think almost right after the intro credits)

Indeed they were just returning from Earth when they were told to go straight to the planet, so they had already used plenty of Oxygen etc.

This was definetly the best episode in a while, special effects were really good.

I wouldnt expect to see the "Orion" in action until next season though, probably roam in to save the day like the deadlus did at the start of this season.

I think they did take the drones from the ship to fill Atlantis supplies, perhaps the people from the Tower didnt want to give away all of their drones.

Also slight nitpick, when the Deadlus first appears they say they can't detect any life signs, then about 2seconds later he says "from my scans it will take 4 journeys to take that many people". Or am i mistaken?

This post has been edited by Nnahrino: Jan 26th 2006, 3:25 PM

If I remember correctly the Daedalus couldn't detect only people who were on Orion. But when the ship first arrived all locals were in the village or close, none on the ship.

The gates in the PG are not naquadah nor is there any in PG.

surely the ship has a proper lifesupport system and not oxygen canisters