Gotta say I liked the episode...finally building up to a nice big battle again. Plus, good to see someone who can actually write creating this one.

And where was this tidbit of information learned?

Actually heat IS energy...

Anyway great ep There's a Swede in Atlantis! Then it definately should be A Norwegian ans Danish guy there too Wonder if they just stick random flags on the shoulders of random background people or if they actually have specified that the guys in the background should be this and this nationality and do a particular task.

Because until they say they are Naquidah they are nothing. Just gates.

There is also no attempt whatsoever, to look for naquidah in the PG. No mention of Naquidah. The gates also look different and made from material found in the PG.

Unless you can prove they are made of Naquidah they simple are gates.

This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Jan 27th 2006, 12:59 AM

Which is why I included "in that sense" because it has to be harnessed differently, and is not exactly the same as "electrical" energy in terms of usage.

It's possible it does (in fact I believe it does from the way he said it) however even if you have scrubbers and processors they can still only handle a certain volume of atmosphere per second, say. So there's a limit to how much CO2 and how much oxygen depletion they can keep up with.

They should beam up the people and not materialize them, untill they're back in Atlantis.....it can be done, and Asgard beam tech. surely has great potential.

Maybe the Deadalus dosn't have the capability to store people in a dematerialized state. I think that would require a lot of data storage for that many people.
Nyways this was a good episode. I was knid of disapointed with the volcano erupting, i thought there would have been better effects for it.

I think this episode is one of the best this season and in my opinion the strongest of ANY of the Stargate eps this year. When Rodney finally revealed his plan I automatically thought "Lava surfing!!!" I also liked the fact that Rodney has a potential girlfriend in Narina (althought previous to this I was still being an odd AU Rodney/Sam shipper) but also noticed how Sheppard seemed to be getting in the way.

The basic science was definitely solid on this one. The only thing that is problematic is that the Sulfuric Dioxide should have made them "go to sleep" before the ash was really pouring down. This very thing was the cause of the Pompeii statues. The people died from the gases and then the ash covered them up. The Volcanic tuff later made the bones disappear leaving only the hard volcanic tuff casts.

I honestly hope that we will see more of either Narina or this society. I suspect we owe them a bit considering they are allowing us to use the Orion.

The only material we ever knew Ancient mass production gates to be made out of was Naquadah.
And you said: "The Pegasus Gates are notmade out of Naquadah, and there is no Naquadah in Pegasus". That of course is an assumption stated as fact with no proof whatsoever.

This post has been edited by Atlantians: Jan 27th 2006, 4:54 PM

Haven't they said in several episodes that the gates are very near indestructable? They dropped one into a star with only a forceshield around it and it lasted long enough to implode the star. i think based on that it would be able to take some measly lava.

Clearly, that was a different type of gate being from the Milky Way...

I agree the failsafe idea is much more likely than melting but you never know, doesn't hurt to consider all options.

http://ben64.com/random_junk/sg1archive/219/

some nice HD pics of this ep.

Btw... if anyone wants a screencap of any atlantis in HD... lemme know

Yup... cool episode.. and scientists... She was a Penthouse model. :O

Also

This post has been edited by BlackBolt: Feb 1st 2006, 12:23 PM

There are threads for the women of Stargate in the General Discussion forums. There are quite a few pics of her in the Atlantis thread.

also re: screenshots. The archive is affiliated with another site, www.stargatecaps.com which I do believe provides HD caps of all episodes.

I knew these two were familiar from somewhere.

OH, and, what the hell are they thinking?! A filler up for episode 19?! I keep on forgetting RCC is only showrunner for SG1, I guess.

Yeah, it was a nice episode. Cool new ship. Rodney getting hysterical again never fails, even for the umpteenth time. This time the Evil Emperor of the Other Planet wasn't so Evil (I'm over-doing capitalisation, I know ;)). Foreshadowing Wraith... but still a filler up. Not a bad one. Volcanos... meh. Filler ups. Let them be burnt to ashes together witht heir volcanoes, sigh.
I hafta admit I was laughing out loud when Rodney was revealing his sollution step by step. T;was like, they're not really going to try that one up, are they? ... ah, well.

Oh and Hermoid is a god. Prolly a Norse one (yes, geeky sense of humour).

this was an interesting episode. this seemed (in a way) like 'letters from pegasus' with there being a 'B' story about wraith ship/ships heading towards atlantis. pitry this didn't seem like a filler episode to me to be honest

amazing computer graphics in this with the volcano going off. the lava swallowing the gate was a great sequence

the orion was a sticking point for me. if you look at atlantis you'll see that it's elegant and pleasing to the eye (i think so anyway) but the ship didn't look very good to me. yeah i know it was built to be a warship not a work of art but still...

there is also the fact that if you look at the ship you would be drawn to conclude that the bridge is at the front of the ship just under the 'pointy hat' but we find out in allies that it's actually halfway down the ship. also that it's down in a dip in the ship which doesn't make sense to me.

ronan and teyla seem out of place in this episode. All they seemed to do was stand around and be beamed up moments before they suffocated.

interesting duel betwen shep and mackay for the attention of the scientist. (what can i say about her??? ) but who was she interested in cuz i've read that she was going for rodney but when i watched it i didn't think she was

Great episode.

LOVED the special effects... very nice job effects team.

Dr. Rodney McKay and Lt. Colonel John Sheppard always have the best dialogues.

The design of the Orion reminded me strongly of the Republic cruiser from the beginning of The Phantom Menace. Except that it didn't get blown up. Atlantis was constructed long before the Alterrans were at war with anybody besides the Orii. It was built for beauty and elegance. McKay made a comment about the austerity of the facility (= not pretty/simple). We can infer from its Alterran name that the Hippaferralcus [or, Orion] was built during war for battle and not to be sleek and beautiful like all of the Asgard ships. Wartime "inventions" are generally built for practicality... not to look pretty. Well... unless you are Asgard... in which case everything must be sleek and elegant and prettiful and shiny and new.

On the subject of shields... I presume that the Ancients can make different types of shields for different situations; they are very ingenious. The Atlantis shield was made to be powered by ZPM's and to stop anything from penetrating it for long periods of time, because of the ZPM's. I would think powering anything with a ZPM would increase its ability. It is not form-fitting because it would have a greater surface area, requiring more energy and making it more difficult to deflect bombardment. The shield was made to be form-fitting underwater because it would have been excessive to have all that open space down there. The shield on Tyranus was not meant to be run for long periods of time at full power because it drew its power from the magma chamber below it. We saw the effect of that action. BOOM Some shields are meant for emergencies ONLY because of their power requirements.

If you have seen SG-1 915, then...


I do not think the Orion gave any drones to Atlantis. The Tower removed any need for that. Atlantis got ALL of the drones because there is no way to power the Chair device on that planet. So they have no further need of drones. Also, none of them can pilot the Jumpers, so they don't need them either. We are giving them assistance because it is the right thing to do. I was also wondering if that planet has a space gate.

I am pleased that Ronon did not attack, kill or try to kill anybody in this episode (that I recall). I am becoming increasingly concerned that his character lacks depth. He is kinda coming off as a Teal'c knock off... He is just angry and violent. The character Teyla is also becoming shallow and a filler. Hm, a hott female Daniel knock-off.... She seems only to serve as a quiet voice of patience and thoughtfulness... who is very attractive.

This post has been edited by Revan: Feb 6th 2006, 4:02 AM

There's no way get access that stargate because its BURIED!

if the gate didn't melt already then the difference in thermal coefficient would have turned the lava solid right around the gate ring making it impossible to form an event horizon

Edit: by lava i mean magma seeing how its still underground

This post has been edited by PokeThePuddle: Feb 10th 2006, 10:02 PM

I don't know if it was mentioned or not but Brandy Ledford was a former Penthouse magazine pet.
Of ourse that was back in the early 90's.

Not that it is important.
But she is one of only a handfull of women who have made a somewhat or better successful changeover from adult pictures/movies to legitimate screen work. Pamela Anderson being the most successful.

So give her credit for sticking it out and avoiding the stigma of having posed naked in mens magazines. Considering how many women in cinema have nude scenes at one time or another it is rather unfair that women who start out posing nude have such a hard time getting past the stereotype and going legit when women who were legit get to avoid this labeling when they pose naked in their movies later on.

The Tollans built one or were given help by the Nox. I didn't get the impression from it's appearance that it was mad of naq' nor was the one Orlan built in Carter's basement made of anything special so gates can be made of a lot of different materials. It could turn out that since the milky way was the place where the ancients colonized afterwards that the naq' based gates were a second generation or higher version of the gate system gates.

The Ancients populated the MW before going to Pegasus. They left because of the plague and returned only after Earth became populated by the humans that evolved as a result of the device on Dakara.

Except that the magma wouldn't harden when its still heated to the degree that it was