Episode 2 - Rising (Part Two)
Air Date: (US) July 16, 2004

A new Stargate team embarks on a dangerous mission to a distant galaxy, where they discover a mythical lost city -- and a deadly new enemy
(Part 2 of 2.)

Episode Guide | Teaser 1 | Teaser 2

(This topic is for people who have seen the episode to discuss it. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read this topic.)

OK ... and they didn't bring Zats why????

Very promising show. Very promising indeed.

Even with Zats, SG-1 still uses rifles.

This episode was great! FRANCHISE FRANCHISE FRANCHISE! Star Trek is dead! Long live Stargate! These episodes rocked! Give Atlantis a season and it'll be better than SG-1!

I agree. Absolutely GREAT!!!!

I'm going back to the other room to watch it again. PEACE OUT!!

Great episode. Those squid drones are so cool, I want one. I also like the forcefield Iris and when the three ships rammed into it. Overall I think this is a great spinoff already, and while it is good it will never surpass SG-1.

Feels like Stargate: Deep Space Nine... definitely feels like a Star Trek ripoff so far....

The reason I like Stargate is the fact that it takes place in the modern world, and that we're fighting aliens with modern technology as well as adapting their technology to ours...essentially that we're the underdogs right from the start...

But with all this high tech ancient tech, it's no longer that way....and if you tell me these stupid wraith killed the ancients.....

Also so far I don't like the new Dr. Weir (why didn't they keep Jessica Steen?!?!) and Shepherd just doesn't stand out yet...I just thought the acting was poor overall...

And worst of all, so far there is no O'Neill type character...

It seems like Stargate has turned into a Star Trek bastard child, and I don't like it one bit

While I wouldn't go quite that far regarding Star Trek it was quite a great episode wasn't it? I like the Wraiths they seem like they will be great new enemies... I especially loved the part at the end where Dr. Beckett asks why he doesn't have friends like that (refering to Teyla [Spelling right?]) and the Dr. Mckay (that the right guy?) says, "You need get out more." Then Beckett said, "We're in another galaxy, how much further can you get?" Quite funny!!!

They still are the underdogs... They don't understand 1/36 of the technology in Atlantis yet. And if the fact that the Asgard barely scratched the surface of the info from the Ancient "database" things is any indication then it will be a good long while before they understand alot of it... At least I hope so... And believe me if it was a Star Trek rip off then I would be the first to admit it... And besides... it seems more like Star Trek: Voyager then Deep Space 9... Think about it... Voyager was stranded acrodd the galaxy... The Atlantis team is stranded in a far galaxy... Pegasus to be exact...

Okay so it's Star Gate: Deep Space Voyager....

Essentially it just doesn't feel like Stargate anymore...maybe I'm just a traditionalist, but IMO the acting is sub par, the bad guys are NOT as scary or as well done as the hype led them to believe...and the whole life-stealer thing has been done numerous times before...

It's just alot of deja-vu where as SG-1 always manages to keep things relatively unique, cliche villains aside...

good episode...

But i one thing i found funny can anyone tell me why when Dr.Wier made that tape to tell simon who ever he is that she is leaving...Is the same person that plays noreem(spelling?) of the Tolan

I did like some of the humor in it, like towards the end when mcay is eating the chicken and he says "This tastes like lemon" or something similiar I didnt catch it. Hopefully Mcay will be the humor of the group because a show that doesn't make me laugh is rarely intresting to me.

i really like shepherd such a hottie. maybe what i like best is i came in late on sg-1 and don't understand some of it, this is a new galaxy and a new beginning for me... so i'm just as clueless as the team. i didn't like weir at first but i'm warming to her. LOVE the scottish guy. the team's def going to be shepherd, teyla, the scottish guy and prob that guy that was in the ship with shepherd. but exactly why do they think rifles and shotguns will do any good against advanced aliens? and are humans supposed to have evolved from the ancients, then? then what about apes? and why didn't the wraith find earth? too far away?

I think the show has a lot of promise, personally I liked the pilot a lot, and as for them being stranded that will probably last until the 2nd season comes along.

I thought the same thing about him. He looks like Narim, but im not positive. Seems very strange if it was him...coulda used a different actor.

As for the humor, I enjoyed when they tested the iris/energy shield and Dr. Mckay stood ridgid going "using power, using power, using power". They are definitly feeling out the comedy with many of the characters.

Overall, great primere, and will definitly be tuning into this. Seems like a fresh tangent to start on with new technologies. Still lots of questions to be answerd yet.

This post has been edited by Faithhammer: Jul 16th 2004, 11:04 PM

Pretty good. Reminiscent of the new Battlestar Galactica. Wondered if they borrowed some sets/sfx.

A lot of Biblical symbolism instead of Egyptian.
Sort of like the Ark. And others I'd have to watch again to recall.

So Shepherd was court martialed or something back on Earth for saving his buddies against orders. Or did they die anyway? I didn't get that. And so when he goes against Weir's judgement, he evidently winds up opening the whole can of worms--literally.

Ok, so at one point, you're arguing that the show is ripping off Star Trek, but then you one an "O'neill" character from SG-1.

You're right, we do need to go back to basics. Why dont we start a poll to get kurt russell and james spader back.

Look, every series runs it point to where storylines coincide or alike. It really is irrelevant if they do, because if you have better ideas, please go start your own series. The real judgement of a series is how they string together their story and at points when they need to push their limits, they do.

your precious "o'neill" character wasnt "o'neill" untill early season 2 late season 1. Go back and watch some earlier episodes. RDA's character was as predictable as a stone.

The premier was excellent. I enjoyed each character, except teyla. The special effects were mighty impressive. I really like the concept of the ship-through the gate. The wraiths, what little we know about them, seem to be an excellent adversary. Their character concept and costumes were really well done.

That is exactly who I thought he was... if its not him then it must be his twin brother..

I loved the two episodes and I have faith that this series is gonna be kick ass! For people whining about the show being boring and complaining about the alien technology they are using.. get over it.. You have to remember this comes out after SG-1 and our knowledge of alien devices has grown a lot in the last 8 years. You see SG-1 using a lot more alien weapons and devices now.

And if you didnt like these two episodes, then you just need to cut some slack... every pilot episode of a new series has to go through setting up the plot of what lies ahead the rest of the year... and the Atlantis team is learning as they go about how things work in this new galaxy that humans have't been to.

Cant Wait til next week so i can watch BOTH SERIES!!! Woot!!

This post has been edited by NemesisDesignz: Jul 16th 2004, 11:33 PM

Yes, it was revealed recently that it is the same actor who played Narim of the Tollan. I believe it was in the news section on Gateworld. :-)

"I was thinking about a nice turkey sandwich"

"....It was worth a try"

At least one thing sets this spinoff above the Star Trek: TNG spinoffs. Atlantis and SG1 are working in tandem. Voyager and DS9 cannibalized one another.

Other than that, my description of Atlantis, in a single word: Wow.


I will DEFINITELY be watching this series. With Atlantis in tow, I can honestly see this franchise going for years and years and years. I dreaded the spinoff curse, but this is simply unbelievable. Great start..

This really bugged me! I mean, why not just use the actor who plays Apophis? Norim was a pretty major character, IMO - you can't just use the same actor (who played a well-known other character) to play some other character. To me, that was just Wrong. I mean, if he was just some extra, that's one thing, but NORIM!?

But otherwise, while in "suspended disbelief" mode and ignoring a few cliches - I enjoyed the show a lot. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.

This post has been edited by Symbiotes R Us: Jul 17th 2004, 12:15 AM

Definitely surpassed my initial expectations. Didn't have as much action as I thought it would, but it made up for that with humor, great character moments, and VFX, as well as some of the best original music Joel Goldsmith has come up with.

Minor disappointments: The sense of awe that should have been felt when arriving at the lost city wasn't quite as powerful as I'd hoped...

The tall native guy who's son was running around in the woods. He was in Season 7's Revisions.

Mckay and the Scottish dude were great...Weir is growing on me. Sheppard is cool...Ford has potential... Teyla...I don't think we've seen the best of her yet; heard she's supposed to be a great hand-to-hand fighter.

Overall, I'm very impressed. I suppose all we can do though is watch and see how the season progresses...

delijoe. Please stop watching Stargate. Please don't make anymore posts. Ever. If you're gonna be an ass, you can't play, get it? The acting was good. Also, you said you didn't like Shepard, and you said you wanted an "O'Neill" type character. You kind of sound like a dumbass. O'Neill and Shepard are respectively similiar. Use the search, find the discussion board on this topic. That also goes for you people arguing Star Trek. The episode was great, I'm watching next week for sure.

Rising Parts 1 and 2 were good eye candy. I did enjoy watching them. However, this crew is inheriting all the Ancient's toys for their toybox -- don't need to work hard to get any of them, except to figure out what they do and then use them. The "genetic" knowledge wrinkle made it too easy, in my opinion.

Look what Jack had to endure TWICE just to find an ally for Earth (the Asgard), and to protect Earth from Anubis! I won't even mention how many times SG-1 and/or the Asgard have had to bail each other out of trouble!

Look how hard SGC and SG-1 had to work to get anything! They had to claw, scratch, fight for, die for, and work their asses off -- for 7 years -- just to get any kind of advantage over their multitudinous enemies -- including their own people (Kinsey, Simmons, the NID). They had to learn everything from a state of total ignorance. And in Season 8, Jack and the rest of the SGC still won't have the advantages of an "Atlantis" to help them with Baal and the other baddies in our galaxy.

Best Example: The Atlanteans (Weir and party) just inherited a hangar full of beautiful spaceships.

SG-1 had to build the X301, 302, and Prometheus from scratch with some patched together alien technology to help them, and the ships STILL aren't totally reliable or safe or particularly powerful, even with some help from the Asgard -- who are now rebuilding their civilization -- not much time for Earth and its problems for a while, I suspect!

My heart is with SG-1. Let the Atlanteans play with their new toys and fight the Wraith -- they've been given a huge boost by standing on the shoulders of SG-1 and all the hard work done by those heroes.