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post Jul 14th 2005, 2:18 PM
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Season 2, Episode 1 - The Siege (Part Three)
Air Dates - US: July 15 2005, Canada: July 18 2005

Atlantis and the route back to Earth are on the line when the Wraith assault the Ancient city.

(Part 3 of 3.)

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post Jul 15th 2005, 11:44 PM
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I loved this episode!!! I never thought that more wraith ships would be on the way that quick after the 2 were destroyed... It kicked ass how they used the asgard beam to send the nukes to the hive ships... that rocked! I'm sure the wraith are still rethinking things seeing how many hive ships just got taken out by a bunch of normal "humans"

McKay tryin to shoot his gun when facing two wraith and releasing the clip instead of firing was hilarious..

I hate that Ford is part wraith now... I really liked him... and now he's not gonna be a regular on the show as he was... Still can't tell if he's gonna be evil.. or still a good guy.

Wondering whats gonna be the Deadelus' strategy now after blowing up 3 hive ships and the wraith adapting and blocking the asgard beam is gonna be. Their rockets seem to be nothing but sh*t! The asgard need to start PAYING UP.. and giving us weapon upgrades too. We've saved their gray butts way too many times now. They gave us shields and hyperdrives...now they need to cough up the weapons. The new asgard on the ship doesnt seem to be very talkative.. almost like he doesnt wanna be there really...

Loved how they launched a nuke outside the cities shield and blew it up..and then cloaked the city to make it look as if they self destructed it. Great idea... and it came from Shepphard.. reminded me of O'Neill's ideas that he would come up with out of the blue.

Cant wait to see more action with the Daedelus!! I was kinda disappointed no fighters ships x-302's were deployed from it to take out the darts..

Cant wait for the rest of the season and see how it all plays out... I think it's possible for us to whipe out the wraith fairly quickly.. they have no shields...and their weapons arent deadly besides their ships...and their "life sucking hands" We still need 1 more ZPM though... so we can have one at SGC and at Atlantis... and a 3rd one would be nice to have for backup in Atlantis for the shield. They need to get on the move quickly and search for those other 4 outposts the "old Dr Weir" gave em.
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post Jul 16th 2005, 12:07 AM
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Awesomeness becomes this show. I have to say that Hermoid/Hermod was quite an endearing fellow! Lol. I love the way he mumbled curses to himself. The Daedalus was more than I hoped for. Definately one of the coolest ships ever on the Stargate series.

The one part with all the bombardment coming down on the shields and the comments of the it being "almost pretty" by Mckay was right on the spot! Great plotline all together.

Wow, it's great to have this show back again...I was having withdrawal symptoms! biggrin.gif


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post Jul 16th 2005, 12:07 AM
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Holy crap that rocked! WAAAAAAAYYYYY better than Avalon. Best Atlantis episode yet. Even better than The Siege Part 2. Is anyone else seeing this, or does it look like that there's something more going on between Dr. Weir and Major Sheppard? Could it be that a romantic relationship will evolve between them? Anyway, HUGE victory for the moment, but the Wraith aren't stupid. They'll be back once they realize that Atlantis wasn't really destroyed.
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post Jul 16th 2005, 12:09 AM
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Oh yeah, and the bickering between Mckay and Zelenka get's better and better. haha. "What are you, Union?" laugh.gif
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post Jul 16th 2005, 12:38 AM
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Stargate Atlantis Season 2 Episode 1 will start in Canada or Eastern Canada for sure on TMN Monday,July'18 2005 at 8:00pm.
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post Jul 16th 2005, 12:40 AM
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I really liked this episode more than the new SG-1 (don't get me wrong I liked it but this episode was better). Only thing that I did not like was the ending, "lets just fool them instead of going into this big huge battle and save money of production costs".
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post Jul 16th 2005, 12:42 AM
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This was a good episode. I was pleasantly surprised. Loved the Daedalus, and the hiccup girl is now part of the crew, LOL!

They finally did something with Ford. Gave him a story, personality, something, and now he's not part of the regular cast.

Love that Beckett is part of the opening credits. He should have been last year.

Mitch Pilieggi will be a good addition to the show. Loved that Everett wanted to see Sheppard and talk to him about what Sheppard did to Sumner. He said, "I wish you had been there for me." Everett realized that Sheppard did what had to be done.

You know I said last year that Teyla was the inquivelent of Teal'c to the team. She provided the info on the Wraith, just as Teal'c provided the info on the Goa'uld. Teal'c had a symbiote to connect with the Goa'uld. Teyla has the dna connection to the Wraith. It seems to work.
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post Jul 16th 2005, 3:46 AM
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I picked up on the asgard crew members reluctance of being on a earth ship. Do you think they drew straws? Finally the earth has a worthy warship, albeit with asgard help.
Too bad we don't get to use it on the Goa'uld. I sure there will plenty of other enemies to test it on. The Promentheus curse is broken.

I hated to see ford go too. Even though he didn't have a storyline he was a dependable guy in a fight. Save Shepard in 0101. Love the interactions he had with the other members and people on Atlantis. I think they will realize the mistake. Maybe he will be back.
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post Jul 16th 2005, 4:52 AM
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I thought what they did with Ford was good. In the first season he barely did anything. I WANTED to like him but there just wasn't really any substance to his character. Like it was said above, Dr. Beckett should've been in the opening credits... I think Beckett was given more screen time and backstory than even Ford, yet Ford was in the credits!

Ford has always seemed more like one of the soldier extras all last season, just that he's recurring. I saw him more of like a Walter from SG-1... like we know he's there and we see him a lot, but we just don't know anything about them.

At least now that Ford's part-Wraith, it adds more of a spin to his character. I think it's great! Whether he becomes evil or stays good later on really will keep the story fresh, interesting and dynamic!



So not only do we have the Wraith to worry about now, there's also the Genii and now we can add Ford to that! Conflict is always good. What fun would it be if everything was easy and simple?





Oh and as for the Asgard on the ship, was there only one of them?



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post Jul 16th 2005, 6:35 AM
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A muttering Asgard, the return of Novak and the introduction of Mitch Pileggi...three reasons to occasionally watch the show. But only occasionally because I still don't care the least little bit about Atlantis.
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post Jul 16th 2005, 6:37 AM
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Can anyone give us a "blow by blow" synopisis for those of us in Australia and other stargate deprived countries???

Questions:::::
1. How did sheppard get out of his suicide run???
2. What weapons are on the Big D (rails, rockets, nukes, energy)???
3. How is the ZPM transported to Atlantis???
4. Any 302 action (we see shepp in cockpit and in jum suit in promo pics)???
5. Everett??????
6. Ford and his team of about 4 men Vs two groups of wraith...what happened there???
7. Battle Statistics ( Big D = ??? Wraith = ???)

Thanks for your time!
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post Jul 16th 2005, 6:48 AM
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QUOTE(Aussie_Bloke @ Jul 16th 2005, 6:37 AM)
Can anyone give us a "blow by blow" synopisis for those of us in Australia and other stargate deprived countries???

Questions:::::
1. How did sheppard get out of his suicide run???
2. What weapons are on the Big D (rails, rockets, nukes, energy)???
3. How is the ZPM transported to Atlantis???
4. Any 302 action (we see shepp in cockpit and in jum suit in promo pics)???
5. Everett??????
6. Ford and his team of about 4 men Vs two groups of wraith...what happened there???
7. Battle Statistics ( Big D = ???      Wraith = ???)

Thanks for your time!
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post Jul 16th 2005, 6:52 AM
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Thanks "Jack Oniell"....your a top bloke!

Just a couple more minor questions::: biggrin.gif

1. At the end of part 2 we see teyla knocked out or somethin. Whats the go with her?
2. Genni Bomb???


Thanks soooooo much evryone!! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 16th 2005, 7:27 AM
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I think it's really unnecessary to write that this is a spoiler, since that's what this whole thread is about.

1. She got seperated from her team. Fortunately, she turned up in time to save Rodney's life. He should've gotten the bigger security escort...

2. The Genii bomb was on the ship that was flown into the second Wraith hive ship. It blew up. (If you didn't know, Weir negotiated for it.)
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post Jul 16th 2005, 7:42 AM
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Aussie:

1. Her radio somehow gets damaged and she makes her way back to the Control Tower saving Mckay and the ZPM in the process after his marine escourt is shot by a Wraith party. Don't worry the guards were not eaten. wink.gif although McKay needs to learn military hand signals.........

2. Bomb worked perfectly

EDIT : Drizzt Do'Urden You beat me! whistling.gif

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Anywho, I loved this episode way better than pt.2. A whole lot more action and not to mention the Daedalus. One thing i don't understand is how Sheppard did'nt see the Daedalus approaching his position.

Hermiod(sp?) didnt seem to pleased to be beaming nukes abord the Wraith ships, even muttering under his breath speaking his native Asgard. Seems likeable, I hope to see him again.

i was shocked to see that the Wraith had 12 more hive ships + escourts waiting to assist the 2 already there.

Tho, i do have a few questions myself: What happend with Captain Radner?? Was he the marine with Colonel Everett?

Did they put up the shield after they shut down the Jumpers stealth defences? I'm assuming they did...?

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post Jul 16th 2005, 9:46 AM
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That was an awsome episode!! The only thing I really was dissapointed about was no X302s, I would have loved to see a few of them flying around the city taking out darts.
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post Jul 16th 2005, 10:25 AM
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I don't think the Asgard was agianst being on the human ship, more the fact that they took a thing as the transporter and made it a offensive weapon.

I love him, he was great, no a much of talker hehe and cursing in Asgard wink.gif

As discussed at the last episode of season one, tho they didnt bring a couple of Asgard ships, but had a Asgard aboard assisting was great. I hope he sticks around!

The Ford thing was a bit strange, guess they are going somewhere with it.

All in all a good kick off on season two and Rodney alway cheerfull about how its gonna end biggrin.gif

btw how many puddle jumpers did they loose, how many do they have left ?

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Can someone posts some pics of the Daedalus, Mods permitting of course.


Since i live in the UK i have to wait till October... crying.gif
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Thumbs up!! Can't wait to see more of the story. I think I need to watch it again, though. I felt like I missed a number of little pieces of information. I loved hearing Hermiod muttering to himself in Asgard. Those *#&*# humans... Great episode... smile.gif
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If the Wraith came to capture Atlantis, then why would wraith darts go on a kamikaze attack to destroy it after the first wave of Hive motherships were destroyed.

You see also that in the 2nd wave of Hive mothership attacks they stopped firing on Atlantis when it was learned through Teyla of SG's strategy to self destuct Atlantis.

The Darts kamikaze attack made no sense
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post Jul 16th 2005, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(cy2k @ Jul 16th 2005, 12:05 PM)
If the Wraith came to capture Atlantis, then why would wraith darts go on a kamikaze attack to destroy it after the first wave of Hive motherships were destroyed.

You see also that in the 2nd wave of Hive mothership attacks they stopped firing on Atlantis when it was learned through Teyla of SG's strategy to self destuct  Atlantis. 

The Darts kamikaze attack made no sense
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i guess if the destroyed the city.. it would still be enough for the wraith to rebuild an engine to make it work. but they want the atlantis team killed and they were prolly desperate..

but the episode was really cool..

and it looks like the atlantis team would need to find food again..

now that prolly the mainland is affected by the nuclear/gamma radiation... and all.. lol

too bad there wasnt a whole fleet of asgard ships instead of 1 asgard in daedulus.. tongue.gif
that would be cool..
but nonetheless that ship is sick... lol
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post Jul 16th 2005, 1:59 PM
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well, lets all hope that Sheppard kills LT. Ford,

and what the fu** was Fords lefteye black???


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A good episode, dont like the Ford story much though.

I didnt expect the Daedalus(sp?) to be that strong/ the Wraith hive ships to be so weak.

Surely those Ancient defence systems should of easily whoop'd them if they had of put shields on them...
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