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post Jan 19th 2006, 6:59 PM
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Season 2, Episode 19 - Inferno

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CA: Jan. 23, 8 PM (TMN)
US: Mar. 3, 9 PM (Sci Fi Channel)
UK: Mar. 8, 8 PM (Sky One)

Dr. McKay must save the team when they are caught on a planet with a super-volcano and there is no visible way out.

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post Jan 23rd 2006, 8:50 PM
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Cool! Aurora class ship yay!

Why was McKay upset about the name "Orion" though?

Nice volcano effects from space too...
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post Jan 23rd 2006, 11:48 PM
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What does it look like?! Did we keep it?! Was it all beat up like Aurora?!

Is it actually called a Warship in the episode?
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From Spoilers...Yes I was RIGHT!

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post Jan 24th 2006, 5:58 AM
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OMG!!!!!

I have been saying that we would be getting another Daedalus class ship called the Orion for the Pegasus galaxy to help the Big D....turns out it was an Aurora class!!!!!!!!!!


Woooo Hoooo!!!

So is there any drones?
Beam Weapons?
What kind of Hyperdrive? Can it go to Earth like the Daedalus?
Shields? As good as the Daedalus's

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post Jan 24th 2006, 7:46 AM
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We didn't actually get to see it fight... but it looks mostly intact - at least the hull, although it was damaged.

Anyone else notice it bears a slight resemblence to the D?

Also that its shields are formfitting rather than egg-shaped? (Have we seen any other Ancient shields that are like this? I think the rest are egg shaped)
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post Jan 24th 2006, 7:49 AM
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i think that the Shields are much better then the Daedalus have cus the chip is alteriance chip as we know there technology is far from our's tongue.gif


now that was just gr8 episode tongue.gif chip looked gr8 tongue.gif and gr8 effects on it to tongue.gif and they didnt get to keep that chip sad.gif they get to use it only but that is good to smile.gif

i hope u guys understand what i like to tell cus my eng is not that good

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post Jan 24th 2006, 10:18 AM
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WOW This was the best episode ever since Siege 3. Although the next episode Allies will be left with a cliff hanger, Inferno rules.

The chief scientist girl was definetly playboy model hot, whew.

The introduction to the Ancient warship was superb, it was awesome.

Aurora class ship originally called "hippopatum something" an ancient general, was renamed orion by Shepherd. It was full of drones which were taken back to atlantis chair. It only had sublight engines damaged. I loved the bridge when it was powered up, all the gizmos were totally high tech.

McKay's solution to get it up in the orbit was genius, considering how Shepherd teased Mckay, hehe. The directors has done a super awesome visual effects to do this.

I was really moved by this episode and can't wait to see it again.

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post Jan 24th 2006, 12:04 PM
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Hopefully we'll get to see the Orion in action in the next episode.

It's hard to find anything wrong at all with this episode. McKay's ego seems to be mostly back even after being reminded about blowing up planets etc.

The only thing I can think of is that if the Chancellor was so untrusting it's interesting that he was the first one through the stargate and he didn't leave anyone specifically behind to watch the other Atlantis ppl. In fact I recall absolutely no security forces at all helping with the evacuations? Somehow Tayla and Ronan were in charge. Very odd.
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post Jan 24th 2006, 1:11 PM
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Hell yeaaaaah. This was a great episode. They finally have an ancient battle ship. Can't wait to see what it can do. It can probably take out 4,5 wraith ships. Plus they have the dedalus and the drones. It will be one hell of a fight.

The comedy rocked.
1.) Shepard: The lead scientist is very....
Weir: Hot? laugh.gif
Shepard: I was gonna say attractive.

Shepard: But Mckay is acting very....
Weir: Smitten ?
Shepard: I was gonna say pathetic. laugh.gif

2.) Hot scientist chick: What were you doing ?
McKay: That was a standard military procedure. In case of an earthquake one hides w00t.gif (well stands)
in a doorway and checks the structaral integrity of the building for the sake of the civilians bow.gif .

3.) McKay: I' ve discovered the ship's name. It's the Hipofaralkus. ph34r.gif
Shepard: The what? w00t.gif ( reminds me of Jack and how he never could pronounce difficult names and
always simlified them)

Shepard: And were not calling it the Enterprise. biggrin.gif


Really the whole McKay and Shepard thing was awsome.




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post Jan 24th 2006, 1:24 PM
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Lucky bastards, in The Netherlands they haven't even start airing Atlantis. They're busy with Season 5 or 6 now :/
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QUOTE(alterantian @ Jan 24th 2006, 10:18 AM) *

The chief scientist girl was definetly playboy model hot, whew.


Brandy Ledford - She was Doyle in the endlessly confusing Series 5 of Andromeda. She was also apparently in the SG-1 episode "Endgame".

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QUOTE(Gotanks @ Jan 24th 2006, 7:24 PM) *

Lucky bastards, in The Netherlands they haven't even start airing Atlantis. They're busy with Season 5 or 6 now :/



haha, ja daarom hebben we internet he, ik heb die seizoenen nu wel gezien, elke dag kijken is niet meer leuk op tv. Dus elke week SGA en SG-1 downloaden 1 dag na de uitzending in Canada tongue.gif

Aah, well i think most of the people here don't read dutch as wel as i do, so:

It was a good episode, 2 bad though we didn't got a better look at the Orion, what i'm curious about:

Are there teleporters on board (we haven't seen any ancient teleporters in atlantis, but we know they made the Goa'uld rings and some sort of fixed transporters in the City Atlantis. (but no Asgard like).

How good are the shields....

Does it have any huge powersource it can use.

And most important: Does it have any weapons other than the drones we could use on earth for our fight with the Ori en stuff.....
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post Jan 24th 2006, 5:02 PM
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I thought this was a pretty Damn good episode.
Just wanted to add to the discussion.



Brandy Ledford was in SG-1s s8x10 Endgame as the Tok'ra operative Zarin






Kevin McNulty was also in SG-1
He played Dr. Warner in s1x3 The Enemy Within, s1x15 Singularity,
s2x13 Spirits and s3x4 Legacy

Im beginning to think that the Pegasus galaxy is filled with clones..........
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a google image search (with safesearch off) reveals some rather... nice pictures

Click here

Awesome episode, earns a **** from me mainly because it added some good humour and advanced the plot and we found something good out at the end
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QUOTE(alterantian @ Jan 24th 2006, 7:18 AM) *

The chief scientist girl was definetly playboy model hot, whew.

Thats an extremely darogatory way to describe a girl. mad.gif


Anyway: Did they take the Drones to Atlantis?
Do we know it was a warship? Was it actually called an "Ancient Warship"?
Also: What does it look like in comparison to the Aurora? All burnt or nice and shiny?
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Sibvlle talking about DL is going to get Arcady in sh*t even if it is in another language.

This was a very good episode from start almost to the end. The last scene was......just wrong. So if say Germany helped out the USA in a time of great need would the USA just give over to Germany one of its brandspankin new Aircraft Carriers? I think not!

Weir: "They are lending us the Orion for the time being for us helping them out"

OH PLEASE! How fu**ing stupid do they think we are.

Other than that, a outstanding episode! Great comedy in it and a woman is ACTUALLY in love with McKay instead of Shep! About time. Especially since McKay is way hotter in the first place! smile.gif

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That was the Diplomatic way of saying: We wrenched it from their hands as reward for saving there rear-ends.

Anyway: Someone post an image of the Orion!
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QUOTE(graba @ Jan 24th 2006, 7:49 AM) *

i think that the Shields are much better then the Daedalus have cus the chip is alteriance chip as we know there technology is far from our's tongue.gif
now that was just gr8 episode tongue.gif chip looked gr8 tongue.gif and gr8 effects on it to tongue.gif and they didnt get to keep that chip sad.gif they get to use it only but that is good to smile.gif

i hope u guys understand what i like to tell cus my eng is not that good


Just because the ship is an Altairan design doesn't mean the ship has necessarily better shields than the Daedalus. Remember, that while the ship's sublight engines and weapons are Earth design and less advanced, the shields are Asgard design. The Asgard and Altairans were established as being a part of an interstellar alliance over in SG1. If they were that far behind the Altairans in technology, they wouldn't have even had a seat at the table. Further, the Asgard have had thousands of years to improve their technology, and the Altairans have all but abandoned this plain of existance in that time, leaving their toys to rot. That means the Asgard are at least on par with the Altairan artifacts in technology and power.

Assuming the Orion can be made fully operational, weapons would probably outclass the Daedalus, but the shields aren't necessarily more durable than those on the Daedalus. For sure, it's been established that the Daedalus' hyperdrive is more powerful than the ones on the Aurora/Orion class ships, and the Aurora/Orion ships aren't the top of the line in the fleet. Both were established in the 'Aurora' episode.
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QUOTE(mcheu @ Jan 24th 2006, 4:56 PM) *

Just because the ship is an Altairan design doesn't mean the ship has necessarily better shields than the Daedalus. Remember, that while the ship's sublight engines and weapons are Earth design and less advanced, the shields are Asgard design. The Asgard and Altairans were established as being a part of an interstellar alliance over in SG1. If they were that far behind the Altairans in technology, they wouldn't have even had a seat at the table. Further, the Asgard have had thousands of years to improve their technology, and the Altairans have all but abandoned this plain of existance in that time, leaving their toys to rot. That means the Asgard are at least on par with the Altairan artifacts in technology and power.

Assuming the Orion can be made fully operational, weapons would probably outclass the Daedalus, but the shields aren't necessarily more durable than those on the Daedalus. For sure, it's been established that the Daedalus' hyperdrive is more powerful than the ones on the Aurora/Orion class ships, and the Aurora/Orion ships aren't the top of the line in the fleet. Both were established in the 'Aurora' episode.

The Ancients have had shield technology for over 5 million years before the Asgard even had decent hyperspace technology. The Ancients were travelling between Galaxies over 50 million years before the Asgard even could fly a distance in space. ohmy.gif

I think that gives the Ancients a very very far head start.
And your logic is biased and rather bad. The Asgard were using sleeper ships to travel long distances only 30,000 years ago.
The Ancients were flying a city(with powerful shields) between galaxies: 3,000,000 years ago. laugh.gif

Furthermore: Atlantis' shields could hold against the Wraith untill their power ran out.
The Asgard shields on the Daedalus started failing within minutes of contact with the Wraith, and that was only a lite attack by the Wraith using 2-3 Huve ships and a few cruisers.
The attack on Atlantis consisted of 10 Hive ships and an unknown amount of cruisers at full bombardment.
whistling.gif

See the difference?

Also:
How did Graba and Haikon get so many emoticons in their posts? huh.gif

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QUOTE(Atlantians @ Jan 24th 2006, 8:10 PM) *

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How did Graba and Haikon get so many emoticons in their posts? huh.gif

Arcady likes them better?

PS Atlantian yours had four in it. That is more. smile.gif
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I don't think we're gonna escape the naming of ships after Greek Mythology.

Something stupid... Aurora class ship can hold as many drones if not more than Atlantis, so as to replenish its weapons supply.

Alteran shield/cloak emitters have both the ability to envelope the object closely or as a bubble. Atlantis underwater was the first example of this, followed by the Puddle Jumper in The Defiant One and Grace Under Pressure.

All up I thought this was a decent story for the lead up to the season cliffy.
Can't wait to see the rest of the Orion's toys.
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QUOTE(Atlantians @ Jan 24th 2006, 8:10 PM) *

Furthermore: Atlantis' shields could hold against the Wraith untill their power ran out.
The Asgard shields on the Daedalus started failing within minutes of contact with the Wraith, and that was only a lite attack by the Wraith using 2-3 Huve ships and a few cruisers.
The attack on Atlantis consisted of 10 Hive ships and an unknown amount of cruisers at full bombardment.
whistling.gif

See the difference?


Actually they specifically said in I think Siege 3 that the D's shields would not last long *because* they no longer had the ZPM - in other words their power is drained rather than them collapsing.
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