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post Jul 17th 2005, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(stargatefan566 @ Jul 17th 2005, 8:28 PM)
Fords eye is really sweet
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Actually, I've been trying to decide if his eye looks like that because of that Wraith enzyme he's been mainlining? Is it giving him Wraith characteristics? Or is it simply because the Wraith sucked some lifeforce out of him. Although I don't know why the whole age process thing would only have affected one side. We haven't seen that before.
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post Jul 17th 2005, 11:19 PM
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I thought his body also incorrportated some of the wraith dna and that is why he looked like that?
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post Jul 17th 2005, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Jul 18th 2005, 12:19 AM)
I thought his body also incorrportated some of the wraith dna and that is why he looked like that?
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The DNA incorporation would make sense - but why the heck is it only happening on one side? unsure.gif
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post Jul 18th 2005, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(Sighfienerd @ Jul 18th 2005, 12:28 AM)
The DNA incorporation would make sense - but why the heck is it only happening on one side?  unsure.gif
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My guess, the DNA was corrupted by the enzymes, but only partly. Perhaps it mainly effected the left side of his brain (where certain thought processes are) and as such corrupted that part of his face as an end-result. If you notice, not that much was effected, and mainly he got a few wrinkles and the wicked-cool black eye.

Overall, good ep. Only problems I see: Solution to problems are coming out of nowhere. Hope they can build up to them in the future, and not have a character go "oh yea. we can do this"
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post Jul 18th 2005, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(hobo_joe20 @ Jul 18th 2005, 1:01 AM)
My guess, the DNA was corrupted by the enzymes, but only partly.  Perhaps it mainly effected the left side of his brain (where certain thought processes are) and as such corrupted that part of his face as an end-result.  If you notice, not that much was effected, and mainly he got a few wrinkles and the wicked-cool black eye.
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And of course, it's an obvious ploy to represent his dual and conflicting natures - Good Aiden and Bad Aiden. evil.gif
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post Jul 18th 2005, 4:47 AM
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He got more than "just a few wrinkles and the wicked-cool black eye"! One blast from the Wraith Stunner and he didn't even go down!
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post Jul 18th 2005, 5:31 AM
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im sure a good ole explosive would...
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We don't want Ford to be gone forever!

LOL laugh.gif
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post Jul 18th 2005, 7:03 AM
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QUOTE(Carter-Hot @ Jul 18th 2005, 5:47 AM)
He got more than "just a few wrinkles and the wicked-cool black eye"!  One blast from the Wraith Stunner and he didn't even go down!
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I was referring to his physical appearance laugh.gif but yes, looks like he was physically altered in terms of body chemistry too.

I was just thinking about the whole "wraith stopping the asgard beam tech from locking on" thing. I figure that the wraith mean technology and asgard beam technology are similar, and therefore they would know of a way to prevent their own technology from being used against them smile.gif thus they are able to stop the asgard beam from beaming anything onto their ships.
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Similar but different.

The writers will have to write an episode that explains Wraith technology someday possible for Season 4?

Like the Wraith beaming technology, it's primative compared to the Asgard's, the Wraith's basic usage is for capturing people, and Asgard's to transport things, the fact that the Wraith was able to adapt, was - Whoah!
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post Jul 18th 2005, 8:06 AM
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OMG OMG OMG

That was a heaps good ep ...

Finally able to come out of hibernation now that stargate has started up again.

Cant wait to see what else the season has got installed


Question...I wonder if the wraith find asguard tasty?
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post Jul 18th 2005, 9:37 AM
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3. Why is Sheppard so fixated on 'bringing the war to them'? Someone should tell him he's just a major. Not a general.




because he is a major thats why, wouldnt matter if Sheppard were a 2nd LT or a General

when Col. Sumner got KIA, Sheppard became the head of security on Atlantis because he is the highest ranking officer, his job is to make sure that he do everything in his power to protect Atlantis and its inhabitants

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post Jul 18th 2005, 10:49 AM
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This show has got to stop throwing 2 hours' worth sorylines into 40 minutes. It was great but half the time i just went "WHAT?!". Techbabble didn't help, o'course.

Shame that the first time they gave Ford something substential to do, they throw him out of the show. I really loved the development with him - hopefully they'll explore it more throughout the show! Loved Rodney, loved Carson, as usual wink.gif *snigger a tRodney going to sleep in the middle of the Wraith.) The bit about Teyla was odd - for a moment there I though the Wraith again took over her.

At times it really felt like SG1 tho - I mean, on the Daedalus with the Asgaard (swearing in Asgaardish! Brilliant!), Novak and the SGc uniform. Has it truely become one show, two hours? biggrin.gif

Special effects were out of this world! Magnificient! (blah, we've never seen that in SG-1. We see who still getting all the money, meh!) All the explosions, uncluding the nuclear mushrooms, were jsut beautiful.

I think I'll have to watch it again to understand what jsut went on there, tho, eek. One ting they'll have to improve tho, was in0-series logic/consistency. Sorry, half the things about Wraith technology didn't make any sort of sense, other were contradicting what I'e come to expect in the previous season.
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post Jul 18th 2005, 1:05 PM
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great show...

but kinda dumb in a way..
you could beam nukes near the hives to take them out..

also about the darts suicide runs.. i think they were meant to let the pilots beam onto atlantis and create havoc..

poor ford... at least now he will be ambushing wraiths to get their enzymes...

but what surprise me is that hes not affected by the stunner.. i mean humans and wraiths go down in one shot so why not ford???
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post Jul 18th 2005, 1:42 PM
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QUOTE(fan_83 @ Jul 18th 2005, 2:05 PM)
but kinda dumb in a way..
you could beam nukes near the hives to take them out..
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Would a nuclear bomb work in space? Seriously. I don't know. I thought that there was some theoretical physics bar to that which has yet to be overcome. But maybe I'm thinking of that ballistic missile defense thing from the 80s with the nuclear powered x-ray lasers.
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post Jul 18th 2005, 1:53 PM
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I have just saw this episode and I have to say it is absolutley excellent in every aspect. The action scenes with us fighting the Wraith were terrific, the Deadalus looks amazing especially when it was destroying those Hive ships. I have to say that Ford's weird eye looked great! The special effects were amazing especially when the Wraith were bombarding the Atlantis shield, that just looked spectacular. Overall, I would give this episode 10/10! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jthg @ Jul 18th 2005, 4:36 AM)
If the wraith are telepathic and there were still wraith left in the city when they cloaked... wouldn't the wraiths in orbit sort of know that the city is still there?

I'm surprised that no one's mentioned this in the last three pages, it seems like a pretty obvious plot hole.
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The Wraith on Atlantis base died long before the cloak was activated as Zelenka told Weir that the last Wraith died in the deeper part of the city trying to damage it with a grenade. So the reason there was no telepathic communication was because there were no Wraith left on the base. smile.gif 1.gif
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QUOTE(fan_83 @ Jul 18th 2005, 8:05 PM)
but kinda dumb in a way..
you could beam nukes near the hives to take them out..
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You're right considering the puddle jumper was also just near the hive ship it destroyed. But if the Wraith managed to scramble the transport lock ONTO their ships, that probably included a large surrounding area as well.

They should have locked onto all of the targets first and THEN initiated the transports to leave as few time as possible for countermeasures...

It was the whole point of the weapon on Dakara to hit all Replicators simultaneously... but that kind of strategical thinking is obviously too much for the Daedalus crew. dry.gif

Only explanation I have why it wasn't possibly technically... the ships were moving, maybe the lock had to be made just prior to transport, plus the Daedalus' limited systems can only make one lock at a time.

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UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!


I am watching season opener "Seige part 3" and guess what!!!!!

Canadian channel has the FULL OPENING intro!!!!! I screamed so loud I scared my cats! The full minute one and it is SWEET!

Ok...finished the episode. All three back to back. It was very exciting. I loved it. I did not see them pulling any ideals out of their asses. Ford although only recurring now will get better play and be able to show off his acting skills. I see now why they did not take a pot shot at the cloaked city. Tala told them it was about to explode and they bought it. That makes much more sense.

I thought it was well written and acted. CGI was great.

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post Jul 18th 2005, 8:50 PM
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Maybe Ford will turn out to be some kind of Wraith 'vampire'. Hunting down and killing individual Wraith, extracting their enzyme, and getting his fix.
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I loved this episode. Best episode so far. The Daedalus looks great, and they finally got an offensive ship. The best part for me was the battle sceen. The specila effects were great. They managed to do major damage to the Wraith fleet. As it stands now, they managed to destroy 5 hive ships out of a predicted 60.
Good to know that there is still humor in the show.
Weir: Why are you wispering?
McKay: I don't know, it seems like the right thing to do.
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post Jul 19th 2005, 2:28 AM
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For the guy that wanted to know how to download the episode.

Erm, I hope i do not get booted from this, mods if this is considered bad then please delete this message.

Go to Emule and download the emule client, install it and set it up, the only problem with emule is that you have to share bandwith for your up and downloads if your on a "limited" pay per meg connection this is not a solution for you, if your on a unlimited conection this is great, anyway.

Download emule and then go to The Real World website, type stargate atlantis into the search engine there and have a nice night

Emric.

New Zealand.

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post Jul 19th 2005, 6:42 AM
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maybe the asgaurd beaming tech was stopped due to the virus, or sumthing i heard about will appear in intruder or sumthing?
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QUOTE(Chakster @ Jul 16th 2005, 1:59 PM)
well, lets all hope that Sheppard kills LT. Ford,

and what the fu** was Fords lefteye black???
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