Ford's eye was black to point out the wraith dna has partially taken over his body. According to Dr. Beckett, his brain chemistry as well. I guess they did this to make Ford a more interesting character, and add to the Atlantis storyline.

I saw this episode in the Boston Stargate Convention, and it was awesome! Ford falling off a ledge of the Atlantis, Tayla arriving at the last minute to save Rodney, some extra killing a wraith to save Coronel Everett, (found out his first name is Dylan). And yes, it's better than the season premiere of Sg-1, because they didn't change the team yet. What was Deluise, Wood, and the lot thinking? That the fans didn't notice? Oh well. I hope both shows do well this year

Startreksuite

Are you going to say anything? If not that is spamming.

Erm, teaching people how to download SOOoo breaks the rules here. Arcady is not going to like it.

Eek, Em, Canada is already playing the new season? they're gonna end it earlier than they did with season 1!

Hi
Trying not to be a kill joy here and I am seriously tempted to download it myself as I estimate it wont be available on DVD in the UK until Feb. I would doubt the legality of downloading it, Given that at the end of every episode on DVD there is reams of text in many languages ( ancient included) stating thou shalt not copy, hire out, lend or fileshare these televison programs with anyone under pain of instant banishment to a Gould held world. Where you will be put to death in a slow and agonising way ( probably watching endless episodes of the OC or Friends) and brought back to life in a Gouald Sarcoficise. To start the agonising process all over again
But HELL I AM TEMPTED

Mike

This post has been edited by Madmickey: Jul 19th 2005, 4:07 PM

Madmickey They should actually put that on them. That would be just so FUN and Stargate worthy! Your reallly funny.

I myself am getting an american satellity dish and reciever to snatch the american signals which is not illegal in any way in Canada.
At least for Stargate, Atlantis S2 is already airing here.

This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Jul 19th 2005, 5:53 PM

Just wondering if anyone else thinks this is slightly inconsistent with the rest of SG1 and Atlantis. In respects to how powerful the Wraith are.

The Deadlus held its own against a Wraith hive ship easy. It later was able to take on 12 simultaneously, although it was unable to destroy them the shields were capable of keeping them at bay for quite a while.

This got me to thinking that surely if the Deadlus is about equal then the Asgard ships (with advanced weapons) are far superior to the Wraith hive ships. So i put the Wraith ships about equal with the Goa'uld ships.

Which of course begs the question "how the hell did they beat the Ancients?".

If each of those satellites had ZPM powered shields then i dont see anyway that the Wraith could of won.

Especially if you think that when they left there were only about 60 Wraith hive ships left. The Asgard could probably come along now with 5-10 ships and wipe them out.

I was expecting alot more from them, with the wraith hive ships being better or equal to that of the Asgards. The beaming tactic would of been ok for the first couple but i dont think they should of been able to withstand the firepower of 10 hive ships for that long. Remember at that point they didnt even have the ZPM powering them.

Sorry long post. Anyone elses views on this matter?

The Wraith war happened 10,000 years ago. The Ancients were in a stale mate with the wraith. They lost the gallexy and the wraith with overwhelming forces went after Atlantis. It became a stalemate there. "Seige part 2" said that the Ancients won all the battles but could not win the war. So they finally gave up and returned to earth.

Asgard could have advanced in the last 10,000 years to become as powerful as the ancients.

Well they could have, but they haven't. Ancient technology is far superior than that of the Goa'uld ships of today (which is about comparitive to the hive ships using my basis above). Its made pretty clear in SG1 that Ancients are superior to Asgard.

But my point is, how did they get to a stale mate. 60 hive ships left? why not go to earth and return with 10 new ships 20years later.

My problem is that with the Wraith being shown as weak as they are in Siege part 3 i can't see how they'd possibly be equal to the Ancients. Especially as we know they only have 60 ships left now.

sorry Auntie Em! I'm a little rusty, it's been a good month since I did any chatting. I've been lectured by a higher power, and will be a better civilian.

Been pistle whipped have ya? Thats ok. The sting wears off eventually. I should know. It happened to me also.


Startrek, don't forget that the Ancients were also weak back than as they had lost a great many due to the plague.

I also think that the D has OLD asgard tech.



This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Jul 19th 2005, 8:07 PM

i think so to auntie em...

I loved every bit of this episode. Mckay standing up to two wraiths were awesome. The fighting was cool (to bad Dedalus was has ugly has Prometheus) atleast it showed a better way of how the ancients lost.

Good to see Rachel Luttrell has improved a little bit. Last year you could have replaced her with an inanimate carbon rod and no one would have noticed the diffrence.


Some of you don't get this. The Wraith don't use Shield technology beacuse it is a waste of energy. Ancients weaponry can pass through any shields. So why waste energy on something that doesn't work?

I like your hint, being in France...we won't get it until next year any hints on getting it faster ?

yes that is true, but they seem to have rubbish weapons also. Seeing as the deadlus could withstand heavy fire for a long time. Thats all i was saying, the fact they dont use shields is ok, so they are destroyable but the deadlus shouldnt of been capable of taking such a beating from those 10 hive ships, if the Wraith are as powerful as they were thought to be to beat the Ancients. Unless there is a hidden reason of some kind why the Ancients lost i think they've made a big mistake.

I got my hint from local television, a report talking about the illegal uses of bittorrent.
So I googled it and am now using it legally on my webpage to distribute our homevideos without costly webspaces!

And legally (in Finland atleast) getting this episode 3 years before it would air here!
Spoiler?

Before you say anything, I remind everyone that I, like everyone else, downloaded ALL the episodes to was it 5 or 6 seasons of SG-1 from THIS site some years ago!

The Ancients could take out the Wraith easily but the problem was there was to many of them. Every time you killed a dart 3 more will replace it. It started to wear down the road. Let me give you an example.

You and 4 of your friends are standing 20 meters from a big door. You each got a gun that can kill with one shot and it has 100 energy ammo lefts.

Out come 100 guys with a gun that is weaker then your with only 10 shots. At first you take out 5 of them. The other 95 will attack and kill you.

Quantity over quality.

Edit: If you want to watch stargate just download a torrent off it. There are free tools on the internet that hide your I.P. adress so your end up safe.

This post has been edited by wack: Jul 20th 2005, 12:35 PM

i just think that the atlantians were whimps.... sooner or later, they would've triumphed.. shields are impenetratable, and they had 3 zpm's, knowledge of how to make more, and if they somehow advanced themselves even further.....

or they could have just created and used a similar weapon like the one at dakara, to wipe out the wraith

We saw in this episode however, that a constant bombardment of the shields by wraith weapons would cause the shield to collapse eventually as the ZPMs could not recharge. So no, the shields were not impenetrable.

I really like the way they fooled the wraith in this one, so now they can still be the enemy and not have to worry tooo much about having them awarm atlantis again. My guess is that they will figure they simply relocated to another planet in pegasus so the Wraith will be searching for that.

Well, technically, as long as the Ancients could make ZPM's, the shield was impenetrable.

IF they could make them. I think they only had so many, and since it appears they they self-regenerate when not in use (according to MacKay in this episode) they figured they wouldn't need anymore.

are u saying they recharge when not in use???

ill have to watch it again to make sure.

u reckon they recharge after their depleted, or only when they still have power?

MacKay says: "Well, the ZPMs would last forever, if only they were given time to replenesh." or something along those lines

Yea, but based upon that, wouldn't our (Antartica) one be able to regenerate, or was all the power used for Antartica and the Atlantis dial.