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| Subfer |
 Feb 1st 2006, 4:26 AM
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Airman Basic  Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: July 16th 2005 From: Slovenia Member No.: 9,532 Gender: Male  |
QUOTE(youngjediboy @ Feb 1st 2006, 9:45 AM)  Anyone also thinking that the Wraith chick would be pretty damned hot if she was humanized?  Omg u dog, u have some issues ti solve [joke] Expert o1 u have some interesting point about zpms, second atlantis and moving the SGC i could agree with that if they would find the zpms of course but about orion i dont think they would know how to fly it(at least not effectivly) since it has the chair and shepard is most qualified to use it. About the big battle if that hapens it would mean the end of stargate not quite ready for that yet |
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| Jade |
 Feb 1st 2006, 5:42 AM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: January 30th 2006 Member No.: 11,026 Gender: Female |
the whole time Wraith were in Atlantis, I keep yelling in my head, don't trust them don't trust them!!!!!!
I hate to be right. Will be interesting to see next season how they gonna end this story. One thing for sure, the Wraith ship won't make it to Earth  They have the Ori, they don't need to worry about Wraith as well.(Unless the Wraith start to feed on the Prior, then that would be fun)! I think Sheppard will save the day!  |
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| Tonten |
Feb 1st 2006, 6:04 AM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: February 10th 2005 Member No.: 8,028 Gender: Not Telling |
QUOTE(Jade @ Feb 1st 2006, 2:42 AM) They have the Ori, they don't need to worry about Wraith as well. (Unless the Wraith start to feed on the Prior, then that would be fun)! I seriously doubt any amount of wraith can get near a Prior. This post has been edited by Tonten: Feb 1st 2006, 6:04 AM |
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| dr_n_tesla |
Feb 1st 2006, 6:48 AM
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Senior Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 390 Joined: May 6th 2003 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 1,522 Gender: Male |
Zelenka and his tech team were pouring over the Wraith Hive tech & specs on "Terminals" ie networked computers leeching info from a central source. Couple that with the fact that at the end of the episode he tells Weir that they've been hacked after they had screened the data stream for viruses. They thought it was clean and hence secure enough to upload into the central database for everyone else to look through so as to find a means to deliver the retrovirus gas effectively as well as to help repair the damaged Hive. Once it was in the database, it was able to relay information to the wraith via the Atlantis communications system.
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| Carter-Hot |
Feb 1st 2006, 8:42 AM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 995 Joined: December 26th 2003 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 3,067 Gender: Male |
This episode was brilliant!
The Wraith Queen for this Hive Ship was WOW! This episode again had everything. It was such a shame that only Teyla sensed that there was something wrong. The other members tried so hard to believe that the Wraith was really trying to form an alliance but it failed. Now, McKay and Ronan and possibly Sheppard maybe culled. Also the fact that the Wraith now knows the locations of all Ancient-related worlds that may had possible technologies to wipe the Wraith out and more importantly, the location of Earth. I can't wait to see the concluding part for this episode in June. 10/10 Though what gets me, is the scene where the first attempt to plant the retro-virus aerosol canisters on the enemy Wraith Hive. Wasn't it the intention that if the plan failed that the enemy Wraith Hive would destroy the "Friendly" Wraith Hive? Ok, I'm sure at the heat of the moment, the plan changed in that the friendly might surrender and dish out the info regarding Atlantis' existence. Some cool moments!  |
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| Gotanks |
Feb 1st 2006, 9:09 AM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: December 20th 2005 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 10,704 Gender: Male |
Ronan was quite boring in this episode, sucked when he wants to kill Wraith again & again. The space fight was cool. I hate waiting for the second part episodes so long :/
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| pct |
Feb 1st 2006, 10:10 AM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: January 18th 2006 From: finland, bromarv Member No.: 10,935 Gender: Male |
302 in hyperspace, maybe but not to earth, lifesupport not enough as seen in sg1 302prototype. the aurora selfdestructed to prevent hive ships from escaping with knowledge how to convert hyperdrive, could big D have intersepted transmission... probably. still i get the feeling that shepard is loose on the hive and is gonna rescue mcKay etc. very nice eppisode!! sorry for language it's my first! 2bad we have 2 wait 6+months
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| MYT |
Feb 1st 2006, 10:21 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: January 31st 2006 Member No.: 11,046 Gender: Male |
Ah still be nice to see something of the furlings, seen feck all from them, they didnt die off completly did they? or is that the fancy name for the ori ?
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| Bignes |
Feb 1st 2006, 10:42 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: January 31st 2006 Member No.: 11,043 Gender: Not Telling |
As for the hive Queen, shes already on earth! Shes just been in Celebrity Big Brother
Pete Burns Wraith Hive Queen Frightening! |
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| hobo_joe20 |
Feb 1st 2006, 10:43 AM
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Brigadier General  Group: Members Posts: 2,357 Joined: May 13th 2005 From: Guelph, Ontario Member No.: 9,055 Gender: Male |
Expert01: I'm sure that the alternate-Atlantis they found would still be occupied, and from what I recall it was in burtal disrepair. wouldn't do them much good.
MYT: If you want to talk about the furlings, please go find a thread and talk about them there. Just for the love of god please DON'T START A NEW TOPIC about them. We've had waaaay too many. and I'm still befuddled as to how they downloaded the wraith information (the first time) to a non-networked computer .. when it could clearly need to be networked to the communications array ... and in turn to everything else through the array :1: |
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| MYT |
Feb 1st 2006, 11:03 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: January 31st 2006 Member No.: 11,046 Gender: Male |
Ok, sorry im only new here, but erm... where do i find em ?
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| hobo_joe20 |
Feb 1st 2006, 11:08 AM
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Brigadier General Group: Members Posts: 2,357 Joined: May 13th 2005 From: Guelph, Ontario Member No.: 9,055 Gender: Male |
try a search for "furling"
(there's a search bar around somewhere ...) |
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| MYT |
Feb 1st 2006, 11:16 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: January 31st 2006 Member No.: 11,046 Gender: Male |
Jesus i never thought of that !
 But no seriously I did and it came up with two threads, one being this one and the other and 214 - Grace Under Pressure Ah wait nm found the search all forums  |
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| tsot |
Feb 1st 2006, 11:26 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: March 17th 2005 From: Stratford-Upon-Avon, England, United Kingodm Member No.: 8,482 Gender: Male |
Great episode. i know this has been mentiond already in the post but there is no way for the wraith to get to earth! They know where it is now so they can get there but it would take ages. Also why the obsesion with earth. They found every planet we have on record so they could feed off any planet!!
Even then the Deadalus could just jump back to earth, warn them and have enough time to break the wraith counter-measures and transport a few nukes onboard. The Orion could jump to earth, replenish the antarctic chair with its drones and job done. Also the deadalus could ambush the wraith everytime they make a hyperspace pause on the way to earth! Someone mentioned that the Asguard would not help. I think they would for sure!!! Their ship would cane the wraith in secods and after all they owe us big time after saving them from the replicators. In relation to shepard, he has prob got into a dart bay with the 302, rescue ronan and rodney and could get back home in time for a smoked kipper. One thing that is unclear is do the two wraith hives intend to tell the rest of the wraith about earth or just keep it to themselves cos they are greedy! Even if all this was overcome by the wraith and they managed to get to earth and start feeding, all of earths combined conventional fire power ( such as jets, tank, nukes, ships and millions of troops with big guns) would easily stop the wraith from ever being able to land and actually feed. They cant do alot from orbit can they!!!! One last point. Has anyone ever thought the script writers could steal or ideas from this form thus making their jobs pretty easy!! We give 'em enough scenarios lol! Edit: just watched it again, it appears that the wraith also got the info about hyperdrives!! so they could get to earth! Still that diesnt explain why they waithed for the deadalus to attck then both simply left! This post has been edited by tsot: Feb 1st 2006, 12:17 PM |
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| expert01 |
Feb 1st 2006, 1:22 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: February 1st 2006 Member No.: 11,050 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(tsot @ Feb 1st 2006, 9:26 AM) The Orion could jump to earth, replenish the antarctic chair with its drones and job done. It was my understanging that the Antarctic base relied on a ZPM to fire the drones, which was depleted in the Anubis attack and subsequent Atlantis expedition. |
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| Raz |
Feb 1st 2006, 1:44 PM
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Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,817 Joined: February 18th 2003 From: North-East England, UK Member No.: 726 Gender: Male |
All I can say is I HATE CLIFFHANGERS! What a F***ING AWESOME EPISODE! Great graphics, the ship scenes were probably the best of the season (maybe except for ep 1!). The only thing that is a bit stupid with the storyline is "We always make alliances with aliens, and then they always break it and we never saw it coming". Seriously how many more types of these storylines are there going to be...Stargate SG-1 has been filled with them (the most recent is the guy from "Beachead"). Those guys at Atlantis are the best of the best and only Teyla and maybe Ronan saw that deception coming, what a surprise!
Good episode though, but as i said before I hate cliffhangers, we're gonna have to wait till flaming July for the next episode! |
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| pct |
Feb 1st 2006, 1:47 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: January 18th 2006 From: finland, bromarv Member No.: 10,935 Gender: Male |
so ow stupid are the wraith... there is earth in their database and the rest... i understand why they don't go to asgard terrotory but how about everyone else... no protection... why not???
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| ionpro |
Feb 1st 2006, 2:37 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: February 1st 2006 Member No.: 11,055 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(tsot @ Feb 1st 2006, 10:26 AM) [snip] Even if all this was overcome by the wraith and they managed to get to earth and start feeding, all of earths combined conventional fire power ( such as jets, tank, nukes, ships and millions of troops with big guns) would easily stop the wraith from ever being able to land and actually feed. They cant do alot from orbit can they!!!! [snip] Well, they wouldn't be able to feed from orbit, but once you dominate the low orbitals of a planet, you dominate the planet. All you have to do is drop big hunks of trash, and when they hit the ground, the have an enormous amount of kinetic energy. If you were to drop a car from orbit (for example), it would devestate an area square kilometers large. Think about dropping it on Manhattan, for instance... |
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| Lord_Yu |
Feb 1st 2006, 3:14 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: March 9th 2003 Member No.: 1,039 |
The Aurora (and the Aurora class Orion) don't have intergalactic hyperdrives. In the virtual environment, the Wraith were inciting the Aurora crew to upgrade their engines in order to learn how the faster model worked. They failed and I don't see how the Aurora mission reports would help them here.
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Feb 1st 2006, 3:35 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: December 2nd 2004 From: England Member No.: 7,137 Gender: Male |
Season 1 Episode 15:
Weir went back in time and met the Ancients and they told her that they sent their most powerful warships to peace talks with the Wraith which the Wraith agreed too. It was a trap and that led to the evactuation of Atlantis. Now i know that, that Weir died but... she aslo told the story to the others including about the Wraith peace talks trap. You think they's learn wouldn't you? |
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| stargate loyal fan |
Feb 1st 2006, 5:17 PM
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Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: December 12th 2005 Member No.: 10,661 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(hobo_joe20 @ Feb 1st 2006, 2:34 AM) My opinion on this episode: FANTASTIC. I thought it was well layed out, and sets us up nicely for a new season. I loved MacKay's bickering with the Asgard, and how his overconfidence got the best of him. Ronin, as kick-ass as ever, though once again Teyla had almost no point in this series. I think it's almost best to kill her off, as it's slowing them down to a degree. they tried to show Sheppard's concern for her, and then never went back to it. Oh, and other thing: how do you get something to an un-networked drive over a network, and then set up a firewall for it? Seems a little confusing to me. Though at least they mentioned the firewall for later reasons. Still ... Overall, great episode and now I can't wait till the summer ... AGAIN. and now my responses to some of the other posts: Ow, my eyes. They burn!  The prototype had one because they attached one, post-production. Thank you for handing out spoilers. I must say, given my big effort to avoid them I have become annoyed with people like you who just assume everyone reads them and wants to know whats happening in the future. The "new" hyperdrive, as you call it, is simply the old one with new modifications. I'm fairly certain that they will be required to have stop-overs. Just now the stops are farther apart. (the wraith also need to feed, and their hive ship will prolly not hold them over until they reach earth). As for your second part: yes. they were trying to disable the hyperdrive of the wraith ships. i dont see why you are complaining becasue we already know ori ships are on there way to earth from a few sg1 episodes and if you put 2 and 2 together you will realise they wont have ori, wraith and earth fighting one another when they arent crossing both shows. |
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| Gebosowulo |
Feb 1st 2006, 5:38 PM
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Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: August 31st 2005 Member No.: 10,027 Gender: Male |
It would have been only natural to make some hard copies of the wraith data, e.g. on DVDs. In this light, the unimaginable undetectable wraith computer worm belongs in the realm of technical pseudo babble.
Nevertheless, nice episode! I think most has been said before, but contrary to at least one poster, I thought both Tayla and Ronan were acting in character. It is hard to blame Ronan for being hostile towards the race who quite effectively eliminated his own kind, and Tayla, though empathizing with the human 'Michael' before, was on point when hinting at the possibility of a wraith betrayal in her talk to Sheppard. Darn. The drugstore is closed already and I desperately need some plutonium for the flux capacitor ... |
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| Revan |
Feb 1st 2006, 6:09 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith  Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
I am new to this whole forum thing, and this is certainly my first post...
Here are the facts as I saw them: 1)The wraith uploaded the database of all known planets and the Aurora mission reports, which would possibly contain information on how to go about upgrading a normal hyperdrive to an intergalactic one 2)Sheppard is either 'piggy-backing' or is aboard the Wraith Hive attempting to release McKay, who has already hacked a number of the Hive's systems, which could be advantageous. 3)The Daedelus could catch up to the Hives, but it would be pointless unless they can get the transporter to lock on to a target. 4)We do not know what type of hyperdrive the Orion has. I do not believe it likely that The Hives will reach ever reach Earth. It would take time to upgrade their hyperdrives, and in that span either McKay or Sheppard will have done something to foil them. This post has been edited by Revan: Nov 9th 2007, 5:12 PM |
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| saber87ffo |
Feb 1st 2006, 6:11 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: February 1st 2006 Member No.: 11,058 Gender: Male |
Hi
I think that Ford was on one of those wraith ships, that followed shepard and that he beamed him out and headed back to the Hive ship were they are trying to bring both ships down. No matter what will happen, one thing is for sure it's going to be one hell of a conclusion. Im so looking forward to it. |
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