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post Feb 1st 2006, 6:27 PM
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QUOTE(stargate loyal fan @ Feb 1st 2006, 5:17 PM) *

i dont see why you are complaining becasue we already know ori ships are on there way to earth from a few sg1 episodes and if you put 2 and 2 together you will realise they wont have ori, wraith and earth fighting one another when they arent crossing both shows.

Ori shipes were on their way in 'Beachhead' (9x05). They were stopped. Since then, we have not heard word of them appearing in our galaxy in a single SG-1 episode. There has been mention that they will not stop coming to our galaxy, but no word on ships at all. I do not read ahead at will come. I like to keep it a suprise. Part of that suprise has now been ruined for me.
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post Feb 1st 2006, 6:55 PM
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I agree people need to watch the spoilers. A lot of people do not read spoilers. I like the pictures only and do not typically read the gist of the story. Please be careful.

I just thought of one more funny thing.

Hermoid said to McKay that his "assistance" on cracking the wraith code would be noted. McKay was like what? My "assistance"?

Later when McKay and Ronon were trapped on the hive ship Hermoid than says that McKays attempts to hack into the Hive ships failed! laugh.gif

So when it worked it was Hermoid ideal. When it failed it was McKays fault. Me thinks that asgard has as big an ego as McKay. I love those two together.

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post Feb 1st 2006, 7:24 PM
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Ok here is my thoughts on what could possibly be the conclusion....
Wraith only have to make one stop now thanks to a better, yet not Asgard standard, hyperdrive....

Orion sits waiting for them....Daedaulus sits waiting for them....
Orion pumps one of them with drones...
Daedalus pumps one with beeming tech and nukes...

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post Feb 1st 2006, 7:56 PM
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earth may have shielded ship and powerful allies but if they are not warned about wraith arrival they're gonna get caught with the pant down........but that's does'nt matter i'm sure sheppard and rodney will find a way to stop them before they get to earth cool.gif
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post Feb 1st 2006, 8:22 PM
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QUOTE(expert01 @ Feb 1st 2006, 1:22 PM) *

It was my understanging that the Antarctic base relied on a ZPM to fire the drones, which was depleted in the Anubis attack and subsequent Atlantis expedition.


We now know that a Mark II Naqueda generator can provide sufficient power (from The Siege pt 2 I think).

Even caught by surprise.. sure the Wraith could wreck Earth but I'd say that's worst case. I don't see with all the weapons we posess how TWO hive ships could ever get to a point of being able to feed on us.

They'd run out of darts trying to intercept all the nukes being thrown at them!

How many 302 type ships do you think the Russians have?
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post Feb 1st 2006, 8:23 PM
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Haven't seen the episode yet, but if Atlantis knows they're going, then they'll gate to Earth and let them know. And if they don't get there, Atlantis will find out wraith know the position of earth and they will warn them anyways.
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post Feb 1st 2006, 8:46 PM
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The russians have the plans to the X302 so they could have a great many ships.
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post Feb 1st 2006, 9:51 PM
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First, post. Hey everyone.

I've been reading what you've all said about ep20, and how TPTB might follow it up next season and I just thought of something else that could save our guys - the Wraith queen... or whatever she is... - someone already mentioned that she might be a total hottie if humanised right? 1.gif

But she fed on that Wraith guy who was humanised, sick.gif so why didn't she contract the virus as per Shep in 'Instincts'? So the Queen becomes a total hottie, in fear for her life cuz now she's food, and she helps MacKay (possibly Shep too by that point) et al escape, who then disable the hive ships from within just enough for the calvalry to arrive, and she gets killed in the process, saving the writers from any extraneous scriptwriting.... they already have enough on their plates with Ronan.... wink.gif

Just a thought. Sorry if it's in the wrong section.

oh and one last thing before I go, seeing as I'm a noob and all... Wouldn't it be cool if we met the Furlin.... nah, just kidding! whistling.gif
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post Feb 1st 2006, 9:59 PM
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FL410 first off. Welcome to the forum. Second off your not a noob, your just a newbie. A noob is not a nice term here. smile.gif

Thirdly, awesome ideal you got there! So true. The virus has not been tested since than. It could very well convert her to being human.
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post Feb 1st 2006, 10:28 PM
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FL410 is right about saving the writers from any extraneous scriptwriting. From the previous episodes I've seen, I swear to god, they come up with this crazy cliffhanger, which gets us speculating for like 5 months and then the episode airs and it's actually some gay sh*t. I know this seems harsh, but looking back at this season's episodes, they really haven't put too much thought to the ending of the episode. My suggestion is, make the season premiere a 2-hour event, so therefore you have more time to make a good ending.

I doubt they'll ever get to Earth, cause that just doesen't seem like the writers' personality. Earth can't be a battleground because if the Wraith came, they would have to release to the general public that aliens do exist and everything about the Stargate Program. If you really think they're coming out of the Pegasus Galaxy to feed, think about Dakara and Chulak. These planets have a bigger possibility of getting written in for Wraith feeding ground then Earth, cause then the show would end or go to a different direction.
And who the hell knows how many Wraith are in their clan, it could be quite a lot because they now know the location of a rich feeding ground. So it might not just be two HIVE ships.
My speculation is that, this raid to Earth might go on for half a season or more. They will have to improve their hyperdrive, gather more wraith into their clan, get set for a crazy ass battle.
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If you agree with this spoiler, then you'll agree with what I've just said. One crazy ass battle.

Season 3 could be the search for Ronon and Mckay. Sheppard will get captured too, the three of them will get locked up with no means of getting off the ship. But Michael will release them because the writers want to add some weird ass non-realisitic drama in it. But then Michael gets killed under the Wraith Queen's order for taking sides. The three of them know that they're going to Earth, so they have to stop the Wraith from doing that. Covert style, they disable the HIVE ship then escapes off to the nearest planet where they dial the gate back to Atlantis. Somehow they manage to get hold of their GDO and gets through. They tell Weir that they disabled and destroyed the HIVE that was going to Earth. What they didn't know was that the Wraith had informed others who weren't with them that they know where Earth is and a means of getting there. TO BE CONTINUED.

Next episode, they discuss how they're going to stop them and actually carry out the plan. The Orion, now fixed up by McKay is operational and takes out the remaining HIVE ships. The Season then carries on.
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Feb 1st 2006, 9:59 PM) *

awesome ideal


The word is "idea."
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QUOTE(Arcady @ Feb 1st 2006, 10:32 PM) *

The word is "idea."

ohmy.gif laugh.gif I had typed "Kiss my ass", but thought that rather rude so I changed it to: stop picking on me! smile.gif

Thanks Arcady I will try to remember in the future.

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post Feb 1st 2006, 11:35 PM
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I think the wraith gave atlantis the hive ship's specs so they (atlantis) could familiarize themselves with the systems. all this was probably a ploy to nab mckay and upgrade their hyperdrive to an intergalactic one. not only that, but to determine how vulnerable their ships were to earth defences and prepare for a culling on earth and other milky way planets. my first post by the by. with the organic nature of hive ships, they can just reprogram and repair their weaknesses from my understanding and the data burst sent to atlantis is useless.
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post Feb 2nd 2006, 2:03 AM
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In retrospect, they probably should have "accidently" slipped the position of one of the Ori's planets to the wraith. If they did it convincingly enough that the Waith thought it was Earth, then they'd be able to just let the wraith work things out to their natural conclusion.
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post Feb 2nd 2006, 4:22 AM
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QUOTE(stargate loyal fan @ Feb 1st 2006, 5:17 PM) *

i dont see why you are complaining becasue we already know ori ships are on there way to earth from a few sg1 episodes and if you put 2 and 2 together you will realise they wont have ori, wraith and earth fighting one another when they arent crossing both shows.


People like you pisses me off, this is the second time some asshole has ruined the show for me with vital spoilers. I don't know if you have the brain capacity to comprehend that not everyone want to know about what will happen in the episodes not yet released. Use spoiler tags if you want to feed your ego and show off how much you know.
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post Feb 2nd 2006, 9:30 AM
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First of all, I loved this episode, finally some real action and a hell of a cliffhanger. I DON'T like cliffhangers, I have waited already so long for SG-1 to continue, and now again for Atlantis to continue.

Maybe they could use the retrovirus to infect the two hive ships that are on their way to earth. Michael got amnesia when he was infected, so why wouldn't the other wraith be? Maybe this way they free Dr. McKay and Ronan and fly back home and find a new defense system. But I think this would be far too easy. I really hope they're going to come up with a very great conclusion.

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i dont see why you are complaining becasue we already know ori ships are on there way to earth from a few sg1 episodes and if you put 2 and 2 together you will realise they wont have ori, wraith and earth fighting one another when they arent crossing both shows.


I'm sorry to bother you, but what makes you think that they aren't going to do crossovers? perhaps they do. Maybe not, maybe so, but all I know is that it's going to be a hell of a good show. And if you really want to know what is going to happen, you should look at gateworld.

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i don't think the wraith would have given nothing but obsolete hive ship's specs if they intended to betray human after getting what they wanted so i don't think earth chips will ever be able to beam nukes into them.....that would makes the deadalus just a moving target....beside our conventional weapons won't even scratch a dart as they are not made to strike targets on high orbit so from my point of view the only way to defend ourself is to rely on asgard and jaffa chips with the orion if it's fully operational.....that would makes a pretty nice battle by the way...

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QUOTE(powerlifter @ Feb 2nd 2006, 9:22 AM) *

People like you pisses me off, this is the second time some asshole has ruined the show for me with vital spoilers. I don't know if you have the brain capacity to comprehend that not everyone want to know about what will happen in the episodes not yet released. Use spoiler tags if you want to feed your ego and show off how much you know.


look mate is obvious it wont happen anyway, i dont even know if it will but because i watch episodes clear and that they probs wont do crossovers . This is my opinion so leave it at that and stop moaning about little things from other peoples opinion. This is what this forum is for, to chat about the episodes and what we think will happen in the next episode in peoples opinion. dont have a go at people for making there opinion clear bit explain what your opinions are. so just leave it at that and ive spoilt no episodes as everything ive sed is opinion even though i have maybe read certain things.
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QUOTE(wees @ Feb 2nd 2006, 9:55 AM) *

i don't think the wraith would have given nothing but obsolete hive ship's specs if they intended to betray human after getting what they wanted so i don't think earth chips will ever be able to beam nukes into them.....that would makes the deadalus just a moving target....beside our conventional weapons won't even scratch a dart as they are not made to strike targets on high orbit so from my point of view the only way to defend ourself is to rely on asgard and jaffa chips with the orion if it's fully operational.....that would makes a pretty nice battle by the way...


In season 2, episode 4 (Duet) the team used machine guns to down a Wraith Dart... Wraith ships are unshielded beacause drone weapons penetrate shields. The Wraith concentrated on offense rather than defense. The Wraith seem to have very powerful weapons, which are quite effective against Daedelus's Asgard shields. The only problem with Earth ships is that their rail guns are too small to be effective against such a massive target. It would even take many H'atak vessels to defeat one Wraith Hive. I believe the hive would be able to eliminate them before they could eliminate it.

Also, if the Wraith knew what filter McKay was using to defeat the jamming codes they use to prevent a transport lock, they would be able to adapt to it. This is similar to how the Replicators were able to adapt to the weapon used to exterminate them.

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A H'atak is not that much bigger then the Deadelus ?

A mother ship perhaps, but seriously they clearly have no idea what they will run into, when they reach earth, if thats their real destination.

I hate that they are so careless as to have run the information on a network that was connected to such sensitive informations.

Back it all up and have it on a small network that is unhooked only way to secure such informations, and a back up would mean they could extract just the information they needed and keep the worm out.

The jamming codes can be broken, but it will probably take some time, the information they got hopefully will be useful in the comming battles ;)

So did Sheppard land on one of the wraithships, kinda hard to hide a 303 ;) I would think...

anyway AWESOME last two episodes... looking forward to see what twist they have come up with for a season start, like 4 hours combined sg1/altantis episode biggrin.gif
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Okay... I think I'm siding with the "no major cross-over for Season Three" camp here... other than
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, maybe we see Maj. Gen. Laundry... Lampoon... Lanyard... um... Landry! that's him...

<- old brush-head himself

And Lexa Doig cuz she's a babe. wub.gif

I think our guys escape, disable the jamming device, the not-so-Big-D swoops in, beams in a can of ol' Anti-Wraith goodness - one hive down - the other gets a big firework show courtesy of the D,
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Baddabing!

Well done guys, time for some (unseen, but briefly mentioned) R&R on Earth, now we can all go back to Atlantis and continue with The Adventure...

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Hold on, what's the
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Don't tell me. More spoilers. dry.gif
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!!!!!!!!

WOW!

and again, WOW.

3 words: Role on August!

That was awsome, like what a twist. Loved it. But what am I meant to watch now till August!

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