YES!!!!
That makes perfect sense......
The Daedalus arrives and it is "escorted" or "flanked" by two oniel-class Asgard battlecriusers. I mean - an intergalactic trip may be dangerous.

No doubt the new asgard team member will be on one of these two ships - not the daedalus itself. When they see the wonder and majesty of atlatis - they help rebuild using their sweet buildy things on their ships...and one of them says:"hey, i might hang around..."

Swwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a Little New, But i have a Thought or two in the spoiler Department



Makes sence tme anyway
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"Dont worry he is making it up. I go with the theory that shepard gets beamed out just b4 it detonates then the dedolus kicks the other hive ships ass"

Oh you think so, Check this out then.This pic is from when the first Hive ship has been taken out then the others proceed to take out the sat.



A lot of people are forgetting although I hive ship was taken out, There are still 2 remaining PLUS 9 battle/war ships or whichever they prefer to be called. 3 Hive ships + 3 battleships to protect each one. So that leaves 9 ships + potential thousands of darts.

So there can be know possible way that 1 Earth ship(albeit enhanced.) Will be able to take out 11 enemy ships & survive unscathed, Since Prometheus has x302's in it as we seen in the lost city then it will only make sense that the new one does also but it will only be able to hold 10/15 of them max as it is not that big of a ship & also it will have a lot of supplies for Atlantis in it's stores as well. We already know that since Daedulus has Asgard Hyperdrives then it only makes sense that they will be given other tech to complement it be that shields/weapons/communications/beam technology or perhaps all of it. If this is the case we know Asgard ships cannot fire weapons while in Hyperspace or they cannot activate their shields. So it will also have missiles + probable rail guns/cannons they being simple in terms of design probably would fire but in doing so they would most definitely give away their position to the rest & be taken care of. Although it is possible to communicate while in Hyperspace so they could radio ahead to Atlantis.

With regards to the ZPM, Unless they have the bean tech installed then it would be madness to launch a 302 down to the surface with it, They would be target practise for the big ships & since they won't have stealth installed on them then the Darts would get it long before it got down, So they wouldn't be stupid enough to take a risk as big as that. A more logical explanation would be that they drop out of HS & use the ZPM to boost the shield & weapons then it will more than likely deplete the power source but there is a much higher chance of success in taking out maybe the hive ships & the battle ships will dribble themselves & back off.

As for what will happen to shep.Look how close he is to them, So whatever his fate is then it must be around the first things thats shown at the start of the new ep, So if big D & the cavalry don't come almost immediately into the new season or the ancient babe steps in & saves him at the last possible sec, Then!

Check this out



Anyone who has watched the end of the episode will know that he travels very quickly towards the ships in a mere matter of secs.

As to speculate what will happen to the city & shep, It's just far too convenient for at the start of the episode for big D to appear beam shep off, let the jumper take out a hive ship & D to take care of the rest or for Chaya to step in & save him only to see her being taken away from him immediately after by other the ancients for interfering.

The writers already made this mistake on SG1 end of s7 & start of s8, We see o'neill get frozen in Antartica only to have him out within an hour in the start of the next. So I don't see them repeating the same mistake this time or if they do they will seriously go down in my estimations of them.

A better scenario would be for the wraith to somehow detect the ship fire on it bringing him back into visible sight again & then they sweep the entire ship up & it suddenly disappears into the hive ship for interrogation. Meanwhile in Atlantis the wraith start to take control of the city but near the end they finally get into the gate room & as we see them dialling up the gate for earth we hear an incoming transmission from big D & they start their attack on this ships, They abort the dialling sequence & they know they can't go back to their ships so they start taking Ford & others through the gate to somewhere else in Pegasus, Then it switches back to space & we see the hive ship that shep is on starting to explode, then his cell door open from lack of power, & with the ship exploding around him he runs to the jumper & just gets out in time. Then in the city we see the survivors trying to regroup & mckay noticies that they have stolen the coordinates/gate address to earth or even others in the MW & that will leave it in suspense as it will keep everyone wondering if they are trying to build their own PS to dial an 8 symbol address. So Atlantis with Daedalus must go on the counter.

It's called the Seige III, So I personally think that the ship won't show up till near or the very end of the episode & we'll only get to see what happens in E2 & shep will get captured.

Although something no one seems to have mentioned yet is Teyla, We see an image of her fellow Athosians lying out of it with empty casings expended from their p90's, Yet Teylas weapon is still there but she is gone & E2 is called the intruder, So I think it maybe possible that she has gone bad & is under wraith control.

Still I doubt the Wraith will ever be written into getting more of a chance to control Atlantis than they currently are, Perhaps with the exception that maybe in their final battle a few series down the road then they may get another shot, So I hope the writers at least for the first ep of s2, let the wraith have control or part control then this will leave us wondering for the rest of the new series exactly what info did they get from the Ancient & Human databases & for the future continued success of the show it will be better to do somehting like that.

Lastly I doubt we will see Daedalus accompanied by any Asgard warships, If you remember they weren't anywhere near Dekara for the ancient weapons when Anubis & the Reps almost destroyed the galaxy. We know the reps have decimated their worlds & they only have 1 planet left & also Thor is again between bodies, He was possibly the only 1 that could convince the Asgard council but without him they most likely won't be bothering with another galaxy just now besides even if they did the Daedalus with the ZPM would be much faster, So what would the point be if they didn't all get there together. So the only people I could see if any coming to the rescue would be the new Jaffa nation as if you can remember when Sam/Jacob activated the ancient weapon it destroyed all the reps in the Goa'uld ships, So they would have been far upgraded engines/weapons/shields/systems by the Reps when they took control over them from the Goa'uld when they beamed aboard & started infesting the ships, So possibly these could make the trip & as there would be a fair few then they would be they only ones that I could realistically see coming to Atlantis's aid.

This post has been edited by JamesyBHOY: Mar 23rd 2005, 7:24 PM

No one is thinking of the ring technology. Remember the ancients created the gate, and the rings. there must be a ring platform on atlantis, and we know there is one in the antarctic. Also the is one on the prometheus, so we can only assume there will be one on the dadalus. They will ring the zpm down with reinforcements. And probably beam Shepard out, or before shepard detonates the nuke he will see the dadalus and scrap the plan. This is my first post, but I watch stargate alot, and the spoilers have gone down hill. Interesting Ideas, but not really spoilers at all. try using the spoiler button for only real information.

That is a good point regarding the rings as I honestly totally forgot about them being on the Prometheus. I can't remember this but would the 2 points not need to be in a straight line for it to work, Since they don't know where they are in Atlantis then that could prove to be a problem, If there are any at all, Which if you think about all the ancient outposts having them then they probably will have a set or 2. Since the most obvious place to look would be the control room.

Although Shep is very close to the ships, Then if the Daedalus will show up then it will have to appear at the very start of the episode & I honestly don't think they will make it since that's what everyone will be expecting, I would still say it will show up near the end of the episode. So if Daedalus doesn't show up to save his bacon then either Chaya breaks the rules & gets him(Doubtful, but if she really is into him the way it was made out, then maybe she would defy the others & help out). Otherwise he either gets detected & breaks off(doubtful also, as with all those ships at least 1 you would imagine would get in a good shot & you have seen that a wraith dart can take out a jumper very easily as you saw in The Brotherhood, So imagine what the big boys would do to it.

I think the choice will go down to they let him get close enough having previously detected his approach & sweep him up or destroy the ship but sweep him up, So everyone in Atlantis will see the ship be destroyed on the sensors & think he too is gone but he really is on the Wraith ship. or another though was that perhaps the Jumpers have built in fail safes that prevent something like a kamikaze run from happening & transports him back to Atlantis, Right before the impact. If you see before I sleep when Weir, Zalenka, Shephard are trapped in the jumper bay & it's filled with water they can't get the doors open & he does something then the next thing they know they are in space 10,000 years in the past before being attacked by a couple of Darts. So would it not have been far more likely that as Atlantis was underwater when the Dr.Weir(10,000 year old one) goes through the city is under water then when they go in the time ship Atlantis has already been submerged by the Ancients, So that means that between those 2 dates the city was in the exact same position. So if they had travelled back in time the ship should have remained exactly where it was in the jumper bay. So for them to end up in space must mean that it had some beam technology, So perhaps the other also have it & that's what'll send him back.

I don' t think the ship will transport him back. I guess you would have to explain the change in position with planetary shift. 10000 years ago but was it to the day. The planet might have been in a different position around it's star. Plus if the transport thing were true it should have happened a couple of times, if they had that technology they probably would have used it on the satelite. But the ancients could have always piloted the ships remotely using the chair for dangerous missions, no risk to life at all.

I know the planet would be in a dirrferent planetary position over the course of 10,000 years but since they weren't moving & he somehow activated the time device then they still should have ended up in the exact same position that they currently were in except 10,000 before, That could have been directly in the ocean, or control room or whatever taking into account any movement the city may have experienced over the years but they still shouldn't have came out in space, So that is why I suspect they must have beam technology as well, Just no one knows that it's there or the ancients had it that's why they couldn't use it to get Grodin out of the sat or maybe even it's the pilot that directly affects it & since Shep seems to be the most compatible with the Ancient Tech, It's obvious before he blows himself up with a nuke that he'll be wishing he was somewhere else & as we all know the ships read your mind & perhaps it will automatically act on it to save what it will believe will be an Ancient due to the gene, So Shephard won't know but maybe the ship itself will detect & automatically beam him back to the city before it hits the hive ship.

This post has been edited by JamesyBHOY: Mar 24th 2005, 11:11 PM

Off topic but.......Naqueda in Milky Way, Neutronium in Idah, ??? in Pegasus.

This is my first time in this forum. I've read through a lot of messages on this topic. Some very imaginative idea's. I suppose the one that I would go with would be the Asgaard. After watching the season ender it seems the most likely possibility. Afterall it was mentioned several times that it would take Daedelus 4 days to arrive. This was in the first day of the siege. Seeing the Wraith landing at will on Atlantis tells me they had very little time left and no options. I believe at the very beginning of the next season the Asgaard will appear in force. I seem to remember back on SG-1 there was an episode when the team was captured and then the Asgaard appeared and made all of the Jaffa disappear. The only way for the defender's of Atlantis to eliminate all the Wraith in the city would be to make them disappear. And that the Asgaard can do! At the same time destroying the Wraith Motherships. Of course Sheppard has enough time to steer clear of the Wraith ships.

hey wat do u think about the idea of doing and all gate link like in mobieus, (to kill the replicators), to gather enough power to power the shields. coz as u know the gates use and store a hell of a lot of power. thus dialling every gate and somehow hooking it up to the power generators might just do it!

there bound to be some sort of powerful weapon on atlantis. after all look at the weapon on dakara.

I really can't see the Asgard coming to the rescue Atlantis, Their ranks were heavily decimated by the battle with the reps. They only have one remaining planet left & Thor beamed Carter off the ship as it was infested by Reps, He has not been seen or heard from since. So he if any would have the necessary influence to sway the Asgard council, So I think he doesn't even know about coming Atlantis attack. However since they didn't show up to help when Anubis & the Reps almost got control of the Ancient weapon. Then I don't think we will be seeing them coming to anyone's rescue as they have far more problems closer to home. Besides, The ZPM is powering the Daedalus's shields to allow it to arrive in 4 days. The Asgard don't have any of them & it will take longer than 4 days for them to get to Pegasus. So even if they were coming they wouldn't arrive before Daedalus & since the pic I showed above, Has 2 Hive & 9 Battleships then that's surely too many for it to handle alone. So they won't arrive in time. Another problem with them appearing is that the whole point of the show is to be alone in a whole new Galaxy, So if the Asgard come then it won't be like that, Especially since we know they have just over 20 ships in the same Quadrant of the Galaxy that Atlantis is in + 40 odd more scattered throughout the rest of Pegasus. So if they come to the rescue this time then they will surely need to stay for the remainder of the season. Specially since we know the Wraith won't take kindly to their superiority being challenged as proved by their defeat of the Ancient's & they would just send everything they had next time. Then everyone knowing there are a fleet of Asgard ships forming a ring of protection around the city will lose them lots of viewers, Since most people will kinda know what to expect. So I say this one option won't happen for definite.

Gate idea, I don't think it would be possible right now for them to do it, How could they harness all the energy from thousands of worlds gates simultaneously & channel it into their powering their shield, We know it can be done to dial all the gates as the same time, Harnessing all their energy output is another thing altogether, Probably the tech is already available in Atlantis to do ti, since they built the things, Although I think it will be awhile before they get around to understanding how to use the tech for things of this nature. So Perhaps in future then it might be done but not right now. Anyway if they had a plan on doing this surely it would have been attempted right after they lost the sat & not left until the Wraith are already inside the city. Being they could take over the control room & simply shut everythibg down from the inside. So I say this won't happen & if it ever does then it won't be for a good while down the line.

Although I do agree that they must have another major weapon somewhere in Atlantis, Nothing near the scale of the one on Dakara but probably enough to take care of anything in sensors range. Who knows it may even have it's own power source & automatically fire on the Wraith fleet by itself. Something like the cannons on Tollana.

in regards to thor disappearing if u remember back to the end of the reckoning carter says that thor's mind is in a computer and is awaiting a new body. so i think they might be able to help atlantis. look they were able to tow the promethus form our galaxy to theirs in a matter of hours. so without towing something they would probably make it in time. yes i do agree their ranks are4 very depleted but with a chance to reverse their cloning degeberation, i think they would jump at the chance.

look i do think my gate idea is a bit abstract and that they would have tried it already if they could. but i'm going back on the idea of a weapon being on atlantis coz if there was one wouldn't the ancients have used it instead of running back to our galaxy.

wat i really think that would happen is sheps going to blow up a hive only to be beamed down by the puddle jumper into a room some where in atlantis which either produces or charges zpm's, but he can't uses it because he doesn't know how to and goes to find mckay, only to find a head sucker( ancient libary of knowlegde). then he uses the knowledge to power the shields and weapons.

this idea is out there but when isn't stargate plot lines out there.

I know about him being between bodies, I actually put that in the post(last paragraph) with the pics in it, but he is still Mia at the moment.

I also put, that I do agree with you on the weapon bit, Drones can't be the only form of defense other than the shield & jumpers. There has to be something, In one of those big towers, that will open & you will see a big laser type thingy like the sat or better yet a cannon that the Tollans had, that was really cool btw.

But lets not forget, isn't there going to be an Asgard on Atlantis in season 2? So...Either the Asgard send a ship to help, or an Asgard scientist is on board the Dedalus, and comes to to Atlantis to help research for a solution to their reproduction problem. That, and help the Earth team thats there. Just my guess.

the theory of the asgard coming to the rescue is possible but u have to take into account they don't have many ships left and all their effort is being put into building their homeworld of ariqula. in the new order part 2 the asgard only have six o'neil class ships to defend their homeworld. look thor doesn't even have an o'neil class ship, he riding around in a science vessel.

To put it simply the asgard have neither the resources or the man power to mount a venture into the pegasus galaxy at this time. yes they do owe us a hell of a lot. and even if they do send ships it would be two or three at the most. they might chase off the wraith but they wouldn't be able to destroy them if the mount a full offensive. yes i know that asgard weapons are probably more powerful but the wraith still have superior numbers.

i believe if anyones going to save sheps its us with the help of the asgard being weapons and shields possibly hyperdrive tech

It makes sense that if the Asgard are to give a far less advanced species than themselves(Humans) technology like Hyperdrive engines who wouldn't necessarily understand all the important info behind them. Then they would assign a crew member that would oversee the installation & maintenance of the new additions to the ship, which I will assume that it must also have some more Asgard tech in it. Things like weapons/shields/beam technology/Scanners/computers/replication equipment/communications perhaps not them all but atleast a couple.

I assume that the ship is not fully complete yet, Perhaps it's finished just not been properly tested under battle conditions, Sam tells Jackson that the new engines are being tested on Daedalus, Then a few epsiodes later in Atlantis we hear it's on it's way. So the Asgard member or 2 would still be on board, Especially now it would be more important than ever to have them lend their assistance.

Half way through the journey then the ship suddenly loses engine power & the HyperDrives cut out, Leaving them stranded at the edge of the Galaxy. So I honestly think they will have an Asgard or 2 on board but that's the most help we will get from them, Right at this very minute in time.

That does raise a lot of questions though, especially since if you read the spoilers regarding (ep3 runner) of the new season. It implies that the Wraith won't be on Atlantis for any longer than The Siege III, (As ep2 is The Intruder then there can't be many Wraith left in the city after the first episode.) So I am starting to think the writers are gonna screw up again. Just like they did with SG-1 end of season 7, we see O'neill being frozen in Antartica then around an hour into season 8, he is back to himself again. I'm starting to change my mind regarding the outcome of the Siege.

ok guys the Daedulus isnt supposed to get there for four days
get it when the they come from earth thru the stargate the general say "the the zpm is being transported to the Daedulus as we speak" well that is when he said four days

four days four days
and its only been one night that they have been there for

for all the people how are saying that Daedulus will save shep no way
Daedulus wont get there in time so something else has to happen
either shep opens the back door of the jumper and releases the nuke inside the ships defences

the asgard probably get there to say the day
i am thinking 2 asgard ships

I do not think the asgard are going to come and save the day. They might have like one engineer or something on the dedlus but not a whole ship. I believe that Sheppard will detonate the nuke but just before he does, the ship beams him out of their and into atlantis where he will go on a killing spree to destroy all the wraith in the city. Kinda like he did to the geni.

To be honest, I can't tell how many days have passed since they arrived. We didn't see night & day come & go. Personally as I have put in previous posts, I do not think four days have passed, He actually said that it would be here inside of four days, However the ship could get there quicker than expected. They had no real experience of using a full ZPM in an experimental ship. So they have no real basis for giving them that particular timeframe. It could be sooner or it could be later.

Still, I originally have put that it won't show up till either near the end of the episode or at the beginning of the second. I hope this is still the case & it leaves an episode of the Wraith weaving havoc in the city, This would have far ranging effect for the rest of the series & would give the new series a kinda darker edge to it. It would suck to have Daedalus arrive in the first minute or 2 of the new series & wipe them all out.

ok, ive read all the posts before this, and Ive come to hate the beam tech on the PJ theory, and none of you, it seems, recognises that the Daedalus is supposed to arrive "within four days" - a vague time frame. Also, alot seem to think that the wraith attack on the same day that everrett and the marines arrive - not true. There is enough time between for the gene therepy to take hold on the marine pilots, to deploy the space mines, for the space mines to be destroyed, for the rail guns to be put in place, for Weir to barter for nukes AFTER being taken prisoner, for Zelenka and McKay to finish building the nukes (which took a whole day) before they were finally attacked by the hive ships. After the first dart raid, the scene switches from night to day. Assuming this is a few hours, and that they had a day after the marines arrived before the first wave (either that or they set up everything pretty quick), we'll round that off to one full day - 24 hours. Afterwards, they rig the jumpers for remote control with carson in the chair, which must have taken a while, they killed the wraith infiltrators, Weir asked for nukes and got them and was held prisoner for a while. McKay and Zelenka took at least a day for the nukes, and the battle with the hive ships went for a while. Adding it up, by the end of the episode, im estimating they have had between two and a half days and three days for the ship to journey - within four days could mean 3 days, 3 and a half days etc. Basically, the Daedalus could arrive at any moment, or in a few hours, but it isnt far away.

Im sorry if this all sounds confrontational, but ive just read my way through all of the posts, including all the really huge errors that have given me a headache trying to think on the logic behind them, and Im not gonna list them here. I just wanted to point this out because in four pages of posts (90 posts), no one else has.

What I think is gonna happen is the Daedalus comes out of hyperspace, taking the wraith by surprise and beams loads of wraith into space if it has asgard sensors. If it doesnt, they find a way I cant think of to clear the base. I dont think it will be a biological agent that specifically targets wraith - if the ancients had this, they would have spread it throughout the galaxy. I don't think sheppard will be 'beamed down by the puddle jumper,' either - they havent demonstrated any such capability or even hinted at it, and I would have thought that Sheppard would have wanted to beam out during the episode 38 minutes.

the only evidence of transporter tech from the ancients requires fixed movement - like the rings, stargates and transporter closets on atlantis - all require you to be in one specific place to move to its destination, which is also fixed to the corresponding rings/transporter closet/stargate (I know that the rings can drop you short range, but we're talking longer distances here - and that is fixed as well, but to just below the ship). I doubt they would have installed this tech in the jumpers but not the city.

The most likely scenario is that sheppard either drops the bomb off and flies away or goes into a dart bay or something and taken prisoner, or steals a dart or drops the bomb and flies off again.

Or Daedalus shows up and saves the day through impeccable timeing. It is also possible that hive ships have longer range transport beams - maybe thats what we saw in letters from pegasus.

And to put it into perspective for the asgard fleet idea - even with asgard drive, Pegasus will be a long way away. from the milky way, pegasus is 5,800,000 light years away. Im not trying to doubt our little grey buddies, but thats settling in for the long haul. in Prometheus unbound, they hadnt left the galaxy by the time they reached Vala. When they recieved the distress signal that led them to her, she was 50 light years off their course and it took 20 minutes to reach. That means they had a speed of 150 light years per hour if they diverted immediately, which would have put the journey time at 38,666 days - so that episode was kinda weird to have, unless the producers mixed the numbers around for the distances - artistic license and all that. So i guess anything is possible - maybe there will be asgard help arriving (but i doubt it).

And I seriously doubt the Daedalus will be destroyed before the end of siege pt 3, but it wont have daniel or any sg1 members on it, I think.

There, got a load off my chest - if you read to this point, good for you, your hardcore.

Zen

Asgard can travel faster than promethius even if it did have asgard hyperdrive engines. It doesnty have asgard power scource. Remember Thor TOWED the promethius to another GALAXY and it took 20 mins? Remember he was annoyed at that lack-luster pace?

Even his science Vessel - the daniel jackson - can jump between GALAXYS in mere minutes.

So even though the dadalus has asgard engines with a zpm boosting them - it obviously has something missing because it takes 4 days to get to another GALAXY.

I agree with the "escorting" idea - two asgard ships will help the dadalus along on its dangerous road. A bit like a mother holding a childs hand while crossing a highway.

An interGALACTIC trip is definately a highway that we havent crossed as yet - an we may need some help.

Galaxies are different distances apart. just because the Asgard can travel between ours and their in minutes, doesnt mean they can do the same between the Milky Way and Pegasus. In 'The Fifth Race' O'Neill created a power supply that would provide 10 times more power to the gate so he could travel to the galaxy Ida. In 'Rising' part 1, the power to connect to Atlantis had to come from a ZPM, therefore the distance to Pegasus from the Milky Way is a hell of a lot more than the distance beween Ida and the Milky Way. So it is entirely possible that the shortest time to get to Pagasus is 4 days.

The only way the Prometheus got towed was because it didn't have the Asgard hyperdrive, if it did then well there wouldn't be a need to get towed.

wow great ideas being posted here!!

alot of ppl have been talking about the asgard showing up... well it is possible but somehow i doubt their presence for the longer term even if they do get atlantis out of this mess... why? because in my opinion it would undermine the whole "underdog" status that the writers of sg1 and atlantis use so well.... no one really wants to see us just becoming a second bunch of ancients (and fighting the same kinda war they did)... we like seeing how we beat wraith/goauld/etc by wit and guerilla tactics... having a permanent asgard team member is something that while cool may be abit weird.... for example i believe it would take out some of the comedy and flair to mckays arrogant and dramatic attitude... not to mention taking away the drama and suspense of any s2 technological crisis.... just imagine something like "the storm" happening with a (relatively) know it all asgard there to instruct repairs and modifications.... mckay would be useless.... the drama is gone... and whole underdog thing goes out the window and that is a precious thing to the sucess formula of both sg1 and atlantis series methinks

anyhooo back on topic i think daedalus will arive near the end of seige part 3 bringing the zpm just in time for the conclusion whereby atlantis is then able to unleash a previously uncommissioned weapon to rid themselves of the threat... sheppard will survive some other way... most likely dropping the nuke out the back and somehow crash landing back on the planet or getting captured by wraith.... but back to how atlantis rids themselves of the wraith invasion force... i have a very wild theory but perhaps one of the "suprise weapons" that people have been aluding to is actually replicator technology... (yes know it sounds crazy but hear me out for abit).... the only thing i can see more numerous and deadly than wraith are the replicators (which i might add are entirely synthetic making them unpallatable to the wraiths feeding powers) .... the replicators were suposedly created by the android reese's "father" (perhaps an ancient) on some unknown planet (presumably in the idah galaxy)... and perhaps the original design of replicator tech was ancient and hence atlantis has a "perfected and controlled" squad of replicators to guard the city (and attack the wraith intruders once the daedalus zpm is installed to activate them) .... or perhaps not lol ... perhaps the scientist who made reese was an ancient who escaped atlantis and went to idah to research a means of beating the wraith if they ever did return to atlantis only to have the replicators run amok and get out of his control.... either way whether it be in seige part 3 or somewhere near the end of the whole atlantis series i have a hunch that the replicators hold the key to beating the wraith... and that we havent seen the last of replicator technology yet (assuming either the ancients already have a feasable perfected version of it or somewhere along the lines of the series the asgard/atlantis team figure out how to control it)

bleh... twas just my 2 cents... (albeit rather poorly articulated...and abit off topic i know sry hehehe) but what do u guys think?